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Started by alrelax, June 12, 2022, 01:24:07 AM

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alrelax

The left side represents non tangibles and influential factors in your baccarat play.  The right side represents the tangibles you govern or should be governing. 

Everything will mix up in the middle constantly throughout your play.


Beliefs                                                           Buy In (Figuring Drawdown)


Strategy                                                        Win/Loss


Vision                                                            1/3-1/3-1/3 Money Mgt. Method
Illusion                                                          Set Aside
Perceptions
Expectations


Influences                                                      1 + 4 Side Parlay Wagers   


Frame of Mind                                                Time Played


The Middle.  Mixing Up With Every Wager.  The left and right side above mixes up and you should be conscious of it all EVERY HAND. 


Here are the two things you should be asking yourself and ultra concentrating on EVERY WAGER:

1) Direction of thought and attack.

2) Recognition and Identify shoe presentments every couple to few hands. 

Keeping in mind, not what you are wanting the shoe to do but, what the shoe is actually doing. 

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Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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KungFuBac

Hi alrelax


"...Direction of thought and attack...."


What do you mean exactly? Thx
"There are many large numbers smaller than one."

alrelax

Okay, here I will attempt to explain. 

I have found that there is a difference in the way one thinks at the table, as compared to off the table. That is because emotional and intangible responses do affect you (the LEFT side in the above post).  You cannot simply flip a switch and turn off all of your feelings when you sit down at the baccarat table.  So you have to deal with that fact. Easy, no. Possible to an extent, yes.

Enter the Direction of Thought and Attack you engage in, merged with the tangible Recognition and Identifying shoe presentments every two-three hands.

Ask yourself at each wager, "What am I thinking"?  Ask yourself, "Why do I think that"?

Those are your 'Directions of Thought' and ultimately will subconsciously produce your 'Attack' to place your wagers.

Whether it is a doubt of continuance and the choice to wager the alternative side, or the thought to wager with a continuing 'certain something'.  It needs thought, rather than let's follow the player because the 3rd card for players hand was an 8.  Or,  let's follow banker because bankers last hand was a natural. 

Get it out of your mind, 'the shoe must do so and so because of (whatever)', while pointing to the board or following the largest player which seems to be totally convinced of such and such. Play your own game with Thought and Attack merged with what the shoe is actually doing, big difference with the all too common, what you desire for it to produce.

Here, tell me if I'm right or wrong please. The other players are following the board with their defined upcoming hand, 'Has to be so-and-so'. And it happens. They pointed to the board and explained it to the max, a scene repeated all the time. Flipside, with the same hand it fails. Nothing, long faces, no pointing just at the very most, an 'Oh well'.

To myself, there are very limited amount of triggers that seem to appear far in excess of 50% of the shoes I play. Likewise those that I do not believe in or recognize, might very well be your triggers which means, they work for you. No matter if it's a lucky guess or a well thought out mathematical piece of information that can be utilized in your favor, it really doesn't matter.  It was still Thought and Attack that allowed you to win. Why the cards formed the hand that allowed you to win really does not matter, what mattered is that you chose the correct wagering position.

Bottom line. We all need 'Direction of Thought', (why we are thinking what we do with conscious acknowledgment) and same for 'Attack' (why we are wagering what we do with conscious acknowledgment).

Recognition and identifying shoe presentments every 2-3 hands should allow you to realize what has a greater chance of actually happening, rather than looking at the last 7-10-15 or greater hands and desiring the same to continue or produce the opposite because such and such has not appeared yet.  SIDE NOTE.  Why in the heck do you think the casinos spent thousands and thousands of dollars and continuous maintenance on those electronic score boards if they absolutely help the players choose what wager to make?
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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alrelax

The most important thing you have to learn, is to know what you don't know. You have to realize you can better your knowledge, your mind of the game and set aside that overpowering ego, those hampering desires and the growing wishes that only lead you to losses.
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

AsymBacGuy

Good points.

Sometimes if you can't stay away from betting as the actual picture is too undefined, you may choose the option to get your strategic plan to lose even if you're winning.
After all we've managed to lose the two previous hands and actually a third losing hand came out (but we bet the opposite side our strategy dictated).
So we have won.

Big difference between losing three hands in a row and losing two hands followed by a win.

as.


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alrelax

You know, reading through some of these previous posts, I wonder why so few engage in discussion.  Of course drama, arguing and proving who is top dog/big dog with great 'proxies'  excel on many forums (their traffic count puts mine to shame).

I know, I know, no problem.  But then their own members come on and say such things as, "come on guys, it's so sad we can't be serious here", or "the administration doesn't care about the forum", etc. 
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

KungFuBac

From reply#2 above by alrelax

in part:

"...Bottom line. We all need 'Direction of Thought', (why we are thinking what we do with conscious acknowledgment) and same for 'Attack' (why we are wagering what we do with conscious acknowledgment).

...SIDE NOTE.  Why in the heck do you think the casinos spent thousands and thousands of dollars and continuous maintenance on those electronic score boards if they absolutely help the players choose what wager to make?..."


I agree on (direction of thought) above, especially if one allows this shoe to direct one's current thoughts.

re: SIDE NOTE--This reminds of a recent session when a 70yo gentleman buys in next to me in Spot2/Im in S1 and he immediately wins a couple--three in a row. He then starts pointing at the tote board and explaining how the board is either in chaos  mode or not-chaos mode, and that's why he wagered this or that. I didn't say anything but perceived that in a few mins he would tell me about his "super system".

This xtra nice gentleman is chattering constantly as I can tell he is becoming euphoric with his few wins in a row. In about 5mins he informs me he has: Only been playing bac for two weeks, Use to play only craps/roulette, and recently bought a superduper Bac system for $500 online(Called Chaos something or another) as I didn't really pay attention to what he called it(& he keeps telling me about this guy even has videos online---as if that would impresss/validate the system even more).

I ask him why he switched from craps/roulette to Bac and he states(and i quote): "I wasn't hardly getting any rating points and I played Bac one night and I already have an orange card(2nd tier at this cas i think),...etc." I didn't respond to him on that note, and logic for playing Bac, lol.
I could tell he wanted me to ask about his new system. I asked how was his bac play so far and he responds well I got beat up the first couple weeks but I just bought this system online,...etc, and now Im doing a little better,...etc.

Then he goes on pointing at all the scoring charts on the Tboard: bead plate, big road, et al,  and even a little symbol system at the bottom R corner of board(that I had never noticed), showing 3-4 symbols,...of some sort,...etc ,I forget what the symbols were as IMO irrelevant(or cas wouldn't show them).

He has now won approxx 4/6 wagers. He explains to me that when this ,this, this, and that are in agreement, then bet the last hand will repeat. If 3/5 of this,this, or that, are in disagreement then one would bet the opp of last hand,...etc.

I had held my tongue on all of his explanations thus far as I  didn't want to bust his bubble as he was really enthusiastic with his new found cash machine. He had won most of his early wagers it seemed.

He then loses just as many wagers in a row / was back down to even or close to it it seemed/ then he asks me what I thought about all the toteboard charts/symbols and his system,...etc. I tactfully  said: Well if the casino willingly provides all these results/ organizes them in various formations of their choosing, then they must be confident it will not help us much.
He seemed stunned, was silent for a while,  and looked at me, looked at the tote board, didn't say anything.

Within the next few wagers he had lost several in a row and was now back down to near 0 or slightly down, colored up and stated he must get to restaurant before it closes to use his free food coupon,...etc. Another person asked him did he win and simply responded "up a little".  :)

I wish him(and his system) well.


Continued Success To All,


"There are many large numbers smaller than one."