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alrelax

You know, Vic is 100 percent spot on about the risk. Things change.

In fact I was going to head to the casino at 10pm, get there at 11.30 and play until 3am and then head into the business to open by 6.30 am.  But I'm not.  I will wait until tomorrow when I don't have to open Saturday, no big deal.
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Blue_Angel

Quote from: VLS on October 13, 2017, 12:43:16 AM
Thanks for expressing your personal opinions, YOU ARE WELCOME
they're valued and it's actually interesting to learn other people's mindset directly "from their mouth". Nonetheless, every history has two sides :D INDEED
I refuse to pursue a "PRO" career after living the most stressful time in my life relying on where the ball would land for food. YOU CAN DO MANY OTHER JOBS FOR FOOD, A PRO GAMBLER IS DOING IT FOR FULFILLING A PASSION AND, AT LEAST, COMFORTABLE LIVING
Yes, I've qualified as a "PRO player" between my IT contracts.

Most-sincerely, I can't recommend it to anyone.

Perhaps only if you have 100% certainty of winning (which I don't) such a scenario can be a desirable one; NOBODY HAS 100% CERTAINTY, NOT EVEN CASINOS SINCE NOBODY CONTROLS RESULTS, BUT THIS CANNOT PREVENT A PRO TO BE OVERALL WINNER
personally, I'm past it. In my book, it's simply not worth it to quit my job to pursue re-living stressful times again. Such is my view today so "Recreational" is where it's at for me.

Of course, I respect everyone else's personal goals & dreams regarding betting.
FOR ME IS A WAY OF LIFE, NOT DREAM.
It's just not what I pursue at this stage of my life.

...My bad if keeping the job and providing stability to my family isn't a welcome goal within others' personal view, but it's me who has to look at my lady and son in the eye. NOBODY SPOKE ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, YOU KEEP ON BRINGING YOUR FAMILY TO THE WRONG PLACE, WHY?
I'm not particularly thrilled of even the possibility of having the roulette ball falling into the neighboring pocket/number leading to them not eating. THEN YOU SHOULD NOT PLAY AT ALL, HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS "RECREATIONAL"?! PERSONALLY I DON'T LIKE TO LOSE EVEN FOR FUN!
Maybe when I was single I couldn't care less about such risk when it affected me and me alone, but not today, not any more. I LIVE FREE AND THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT!

I call this growing personally but I'm perfectly aware it may be perceived as "softening" in some circles. "Softened Vic" it is then :love: Or "Family Vic" more accurately. My love for my family is heaps above that of the game :rose:

My "book in life" looks prudent/sensitive to me. In the end, I guess feeling good about yourself, caring for your loved ones and pursuing what you feel is right is the most heartwarming and satisfying way of life.

FOR ME IS THE SENSE OF FREEDOM, TO BE WORRY-FREE, OBLIGATIONS FREE, WITHOUT KIDS, WIFE, 9 TO 5 SALARIES, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE BORING THINGS OF THE CONVENTIONAL LIFE. WILL I EVER GET MARRIED AND SETTLE DOWN? SURE, ASK ME AGAIN AFTER A DECADE TO 15 YEARS!  ;)

A happy,
Vic
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

Blue_Angel

QuoteI'm not particularly thrilled of even the possibility of having the roulette ball falling into the neighboring pocket/number leading to them not eating.
Vic

Perhaps you should cover the neighbors too otherwise you would have some (h)angry mouths (including yours).  >:D

QuoteI call this growing personally but I'm perfectly aware it may be perceived as "softening" in some circles. "Softened Vic" it is then :love: Or "Family Vic" more accurately. My love for my family is heaps above that of the game :rose:
My "book in life" looks prudent/sensitive to me. In the end, I guess feeling good about yourself, caring for your loved ones and pursuing what you feel is right is the most heartwarming and satisfying way of life.
Victor

Vic the family man, I like that!  ^-^
I live life in my own terms, money is just means to an end, it serves me and not me it.
Excuse me if I'm not fitting in your "normal" world, I've the lifestyle I want, I don't harm, cheat anyone and I try to help people who deserve my help every way I can, that's all I ever wanted.
Whether I have your approval/permission or not frankly don't care because I'm not illegal, neither unethical, just different.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

alrelax

I don't think any of our personal situations should be thrown out there and twisted and turned to highlight anyone's position.  However, since that has already occurred--I will throw out a little something.

"The truth is success doesn't come by accident.  It comes from consistent hard work in pursuit of a dream or in the pursuit of realization of something by its holder.   It comes from a passion that drives you and it also comes from constantly and diligently employing some key habits that make you great, great to yourself and happy with yourself."

No matter how much I win or what I find in gambling, gambling will always be gambling.  Nothing more.  Personally I do have children, 3 small ones now and 1 grown.  I would have to side with Vic, in his views about providing and comfort levels.  Doesn't make him or myself any lesser of a gambler or any lesser of a man--we all, you, I, Vic, everyone--has different priorities, substance, beliefs, agenda's and comfort levels.  Gambling is a lot of mind control and psych because, if you don't win, you don't have a payday.  Same in business in many ways, but if you just work for someone there are other advantages as well as disadvantages.  That is why each of us has to subscribe to and believe in what makes him the most comfortable and is the best for him, his family and his loved ones. 

Just because something works for me, does not mean it will work for you, in gambling or with other things in life.  But I do know something and i am very comfortable with it.  A business and an income that will sustain my family and allow me the things that I must have as well as the additional things that I want with reasonable cost levels and also allows me the funds to do other things that are not necessary to sustaining the basics, is very valuable and cherished position to be in by myself.  Can I make more gambling everyday?  Or full time and close the business? I don't know.  But I do know that so much of what I do and do as a family and with the future in mind, will not come about or be allowed if i had to put down 'gambler' and 'self employed-no address or business' on many applications of all types.  And, I have very few loans of any type, so don't say if you had the money you don't have to answer to anyone. 

Age, has a lot to do with all of this and judging by the way you said--check back with me in a decade or 15 years, I would have to say you are in your 20's. I remember when I was in my 20's very well.  No one know much of anything and I knew everything and had all the answers.  I do admit that.

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Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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Blue_Angel

QuoteAge, has a lot to do with all of this and judging by the way you said--check back with me in a decade or 15 years, I would have to say you are in your 20's. I remember when I was in my 20's very well.  No one know much of anything and I knew everything and had all the answers.  I do admit that.
AlRelax

My age is irrelevant but you could check it on my forum's profile if you want.

I agree with everything you said except the last paragraph.
You see age has nothing to do with it, it's all about personality.
As you might have understood so far not everyone has the same aspirations and expectations, besides why should they?
For example you enjoy a quiet family life, while I enjoy an adventurous polygamous life, why one of us has to be wrong?
I know very well that I don't embrace the norm and for the average Joe's out there I'm a misfit who can point the finger on, but deep inside them they envy what they condemn, simply because they are hypocrites and live in denial.

Conventional life? No thank you!

There are 2 kinds of people, those who compromise with their circumstances, eventually they learn to like it and from the other side those who strive to make life as they see fit.
The first prefer the "safe" path of what's already there, they learn and repeat like parrots and monkeys, they regurgitate what others serve them and say thank you.
The second category is the minority, they are those who dare to differ, they don't follow but being followed, they are the pioneers and all radical alterations are being born from them.

You've made your choice, I've made mine.

There's no profit without risk, investments, businesses and gamble share the risk to reward ratio, of course it varies from case to case.
Wouldn't you start a businesses on the thought that there's a possibility to have loss, wouldn't you?
Don't fool yourself because if this was the case then nobody would.
There's no business which you control everything, whether you sale products or services the potential customers don't have to buy it from you or even don't buy it at all.
By initiating a business activity 2 things are for sure, expenses and taxation, whether your income would exceed them it's far from certain.
If you don't want to get wet don't get inside the water...if you want safety then become an employee in order to receive paychecks month after month for the rest of your life, let others decide what you will do, for how long, how much to receive and in general how you are going to be the rest of your life!
Sounds boring, doesn't it?
No element of surprise, just the ordinary boring safety till they decide they had enough of you!

And you want to tell me that gamble is gamble?! Ha!

Ask yourselves why you get married and do business when sooner or later you end up cheating wives and tax offices with one way or the other, why to do so in the first place?
And then you pose behind this beautiful but fake social vitrine, pretending the ethical and honorable men and all these because you live for others not for yourself!
Capitalism has yawned your leashes in order you to become satellites of it, that's the modern slaves of the materialistic world, that's the only truth they know, why don't you pat yourselves in the back?!
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

alrelax

Oh yeah, I have a nice quite reserved private life!

I ran an illegal business in NYC for many years, I was chased, surrounded and escaped many times.  I was used and I used the people that used me.  I was admired and hated with great aspirations by many.  I partnered with someone in a business for several years that was about on the same level as Louie Eppolito and Steve Caracappa from Brooklyn.  I finally found out what they wanted and I made them a deal and it was a great deal in deed, if i wasn't so 'street and life smart' I probably would have been in prison for decades.  It's all good.

As far as payroll and taxes, I personally have that all figured out, no problems.

My life is anything but ordinary, I deal with accidents, disasters and crazy local, state and federal authorities.  I take no back talk and I only bow to the female law enforcement officers, the few there are, because  there is no reasoning with a female with a gun on her hip, even their superiors don't, I tried. 

As far as my business, I am looking to get out of it and change businesses.  But, in the business I am in--very few do or can do what I do and have for my clients.  It has served me well. 

As far as my wife, nope--don't argue, she gives a new meaning to the word crazy and ruthless from SE Asia. 

As far other things, you don't know me well enough as to what I have done, enjoyed, mistakenly took on and other things I wish I have.

As far as age, I said what I did, more in relationship to me than you.  But, you really don't know what I have experienced.  As far as kids, I would not go back for anything offered at this point.     

You might be a better gambler than I and you probably have a lot more money, but i have other things you never will and i cherish almost all of them------my past experiences, in gambling and many many other things outside  the casinos.

I said pretty much what I wanted to say, but you do put words in people's mouths and you seem to twist and turn some things.  It's all good I guess.  But for the record, I never did say:  "And then you pose behind this beautiful but fake social vitrine, pretending the ethical and honorable men and all these because you live for others not for yourself!"  If you deduced that down from some of the things I wrote, that is fine, we all interpret things on various levels.  Just like the players at the baccarat table pointing to the score board and citing to wager for the 'cut' and then 2 streaks of 14 appear, first one for the bankers followed immediately with another one, of 13/14/15 streak for the players.  Their mouths physically dropped open towards the end of the second streak, while one or two players laughed all the way to the cashier's cage.
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

Blue_Angel

Please Al don't take it personally, I'm speaking generally and dare to think out loud.

Thank you for your honest responses
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

wannawin

who cares about personal situations . I just want my program before it implodes. sorry.still wise enough to leave the forum before it closes
say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.

Garnabby