this is a first for me...blogging....so please this blog is only ideas of mine and you can make what you want from the journey of this blog over time to come...
please don,t inundate it with arguments and systems...and possibilities..just make a new topic or i can make a new topic if you ask under the umbrella of my blog space so discussions if any could there...
GEARS AND COGS
my idea of roulette is of a churning machine ...forever churning and running ...that machine as all machines needs gears and cogs to run...
them gears and cogs are made up in my mind of all the things we come to know about roulette..dozens,columns,even chances and many more.....the fuel for this machine is the dealer...
this machine as all machines does have limitations....but random though limited is its greatest asset...though we all know the law of the third..does it really help?
this last few weeks i have been playing about with an excellent tracker nicksmi has made up for me....it tracks the groups ..ie red odd,,,red even,,,black odd,,,black even..it tells me when 3 separate groups come out..and in what order..what use is it you may ask?....well it charts some of the gears and cogs that run this machine and with a little imagination something could definitely come from it...definitely 2 or 3 systems could easily be made up from these results....
its frustrating at the moment because i am super busy in my life and can,t spend as much time as i need to with this tracker but have lots of ideas but how to put them into a system is the key.....i,ve attached it so people can look..
right now i have to go its the children's sports day....
with nicksmi permission i,ll post an interesting concept he emailed me concerning dyselexics bet...
Some of you still don't understand what I am trying to show with these alternating EC.
To make it simpler, I have attached the spreadsheet with the unique numbers already filled in that show
you can have 36 unique numbers that alternate LHLHLH....
you can have 36 unique numbers that alternate OEOEOE....
you can have 36 unique numbers that alternate RBRBRB. . . . .(Sorry I erred in yesterday's email), you can have 36 alternating RBRBR . . what I meant to say was that you cannot have 36 numbers alternating on ALL EC's simultaneously.
Now look what happens when you combine R/B with E/O. There are only 20 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate RO/BE/RO/BE . . .
Look what happens when you combine R/B with H/L. There are only 18 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate RL/BH/RL/BH. . .
Finally look what happens when you combine E/O with H/L. (or all 3 EC's). There are only 10 unique numbers that would allow them to alternate O/L/EH/OL/EH . . .
The pigeon holes are filled. Something has to happen, either a number has to repeat or an EC has to streak.
Once you understand this concept, the question is how can we use it.
Cheers
Nick
this is probably one of most unique ideas i,ve heard for a long time..and credit to nick coming up with it ......
hi 6th sense,
thanks for starting this topic.
as I don't know how you plan to run your blog, I will just reply here. If my reply interferes with your "blog construction", just delete it.
on roueletteforum.cc dyk. gave some explanaition. I recently found the pdf were he got his example from on the internet. it might be of help.
http://www.math.uvic.ca/faculty/gmacgill/guide/pigeonhole.pdf (http://www.math.uvic.ca/faculty/gmacgill/guide/pigeonhole.pdf)
it's "Example PHP4" that he uses.
by the way, I've been twisting and turning the layout around in various combinations. but your interesting idea never came to my mind. good job. :-)
cheers
hans
Yes, Marshall, you are right. It is indeed a lot of tracking but that is what the ExcelBot is for. It tracks all this for us.
But what about the information itself.
Can we get a bet selection out of this?
How do we use it?
Is it of any use?
Any suggestions, ideas or thoughts are most welcome.
If nothing else, this expands our knowledge of possibilities or others might say, it just more useless information.
Cheers
Nick
HansHuckebein (http://betselection.cc/profile/HansHuckebein/)
That was nickmsi ideas...and pretty interesting...Iv'e not read anything else on that.
As nick says feel free or anyone to put ideas on that subject forward....
As to this blog it's a 1st for me and its all ad hoc as i go...
Also an upgrade to the 1st Excel sheet of hartscape is here now...its shows the dominant black/red...even/odd of each of the three separate groups....gears and cogs.....some at least..there is a tendency to be less than 50% per 100 spins of these 3 separate groups..what does it mean to me in a blog fashion ...
a few ideas is can i capitalize on this?
how many times do runs of 3 groups happen...what's the ratio of betting the 2 groups against the last 2 of the 3 in that group..to them runs?....
more thoughts are towards what that dominant 2 EC,s show and what to bet for using them?...
for that next spin...different ideas...what if ..playing around with ideas now that that dominant 2 is black odd ...would we bet doz 2 and 3 because they are most dominant in them dozens?....
again ideas just thinking aloud..
lots of ideas just for this 1 tracker alone...
Thanks for sharing this info.
Regards
Max
this is what the tracker looks like on my pc.
is this how it should look? ???
cheers
hans
i think so it does look like mine which is how i wanted it set out...heres a pic..i,ve uploaded here again the tracker in case they were any problems with the upload
I asked because I use libre office (open office) and it displays so many higlighted yet empty cells.
maybe I just haven't figured out how to operate this sheet correctly.
cheers
hans
ok have been really busy so not posted for ages...as on the other site heres a few pics of a sheet a had nick make..and the sheet itself....S--L--S....
its triggers are any 2 numbers that appear in a line...a double street ,,,a sector ...on the table...it,ll bet that for its own number of spins..
double street it,ll bet 6 times for a hit...single street 12 times..a sector 9 times ,,,ok as promised heres a screen shot of that sytem i had made by nick....
it has massive losses flatbetting...but with the settings i got there as you can see it comes back....
nick is working on a unique way i have given him to reverse this sheet...using the sheet itself instead of a sytem but as a tracker....i paid for this and nick spent time on it...
but i don,t and never mind sharing...other people with ideas can improve...the only way to properly test in my opinion and play about with settings is with the bot...
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I think sharing and betting all of the the e/c's at one time is a very good idea without question! I've played it a bit and am going to play more--same thing with sharing line bets and column sections .....as I call them and dozens and columns... To me its all about the sesame st saying that is known internationally : "Sharing is Caring"
Quote from: Tomla on August 22, 2013, 03:36:37 AM
I think sharing and betting all of the the e/c's at one time is a very good idea without question! I've played it a bit and am going to play more--same thing with sharing line bets and column sections .....as I call them and dozens and columns... To me its all about the sesame st saying that is known internationally : "Sharing is Caring"
But will it not lead to higher variance and hence a no no?
One of my first ideas on the other site was called "streaks and toggles" so this interests me greatly.
ok been busy with nicksmi this last week...i,m wondering what the limit is to upload files in mb...i have a few old ones and some new ones including MR J 8 train but it won,t let me upload them they are not above 5mb....all my sheets work on the bot :-\
I have a special section on the bots website for sharing sheets.
This section of the website will be linked to the bots "excelsheet-dropdownbox".
So when you click "Get Sheets" in the dropdownbox the bot will open the Excelbots sheetspage on the website
and you will be able to donwload sheets from there.
Stef
ok another opportunity for those who missed it 1st time around
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA4GN66 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA4GN66)
You really can make money selling anything these days.
wannawin i like that pic where did you get it from?
also for everyone who has a kindle,i have made this book is free for the next 5 days ..
Quote from: 6th-sense on September 19, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
also for everyone who has a kindle,i have made this book is free for the next 5 days ..
LoL..... I just bought a copy 5 minutes ago! I am staying away from the casino tonight!
But hey, no sweat, it was only a few quid anyhow.
cheers
Quote from: 6th-sense on September 19, 2013, 06:43:13 PMwannawin i like that pic where did you get it from?
www.cartoonstock.com (http://www.cartoonstock.com)
There are many hilarious cartoons on that website.
thanks i,m checking it out now :thumbsup:
see they got a couple of LOVE IS cartoons on there i use to really like them...
ok heres the system i wanted help with a better money management with but my thread got waylaid with other comments.. the idea behind it is a combination of my abc system and the a 9 cycle system combined...
if a number in a double street hits twice or a 2 numbers in a cross section bet of doz and columns...
there are 9 sections...ie numbers 1,4,7,10...are section doz1.col1...ie section 1...a cross reference.of doz and col...
it will bet against that double street and cross section of that triggered number..which is triggered by a double hit in either of them sections...so if 2 numbers in a double street hit say 16...18...it,ll bet against double street 13 to 18 plus the section with 18 in on the cross reference which is 15,18,21,24....
now a section or sector has a 9 to 1 chance of losing again and the double street has a 6 to 1 chance of losing....the splits that are bet inside the dozen of the triggered bet is an even no win bet u get your money back...they are bet with 1 unit between them that is 2 units,,,that leaves us 8 units on the other dozens...which gives us a 6 unit win...making it in essence a 3 to 1 ratio or break even bet ...so from 6 to 1 on street and 9 to 1 on the sectors...we now should have an advantage with this 3 to 1 loss...we only need to really win 4 to 1 to be in profit...does this give an edge ...seems to be at moment..not flat-betting though sometimes it can be up a lot...
maybe take profit and stop ...but using the bot..up one on a loss and just reset when in new high with a virtual loss of 1 or 2 on sheet settings can make it great...
this sheet as always is named by nick..designed by me built by nick and run on Stefs bot....this sheet as usual runs on bot...also remember these sheets i give are not static bets....they float about inside the dozen and react to what is happening in that particular dozen at that time.....
ok now that system is up...i asked for help but got none....in money management so i had to figure a way to do it myself......now according to the laws of roulette a dozen can usually go cold for at least 20 spins..so i decided to just bet above system with just the dozen that's in play at the time of the bet..which is selected as said above...this sheet nick did allows you to choose the amount to put on the splits AND on the dozens....his idea which i didn,t even think of but fantastic...to play with...
now this is a 3 point bet...2 splits 1 dozen...could the extra chip that graildigger is looking for be placed on the newest column...as in ceh words food for thought[attach=2]....
and last but not least is the 1st version with a cycle bet of 1..2...3..ie it bets 1 amount then twice that amount...then 3 times that amount......all controlled by the sheets profit and stoploss...and bots settings too...all built by nick ....to run on stefs bot....the 1st sheet for me is close to the holy grail..it wins stacks of money...but as i say and Sam says bv only lets u win so much....regardless of there ecncryption sha keys...the 2nd sheet i not used too much but could be along the lines graildigger is after...with that column thrown in...as usual i pay for nick to make sheets and he is great value for money but give them freely....they all run on stefs bot,,,so help yourself
should also say DISENGAGE THE R/B ENGINE which i had built in...it kicks in when there is a win to bet against a random 4 sequence of red an black results in a martingale...1,2,4,8..this was to put off repeats on any sector sort of to randomise the betting patterns...plus to see if nick could do it as sheet was pretty easy for him to build.. i like to keep him sharp....turn this off you don,t need it....
well its been a long time being on here
would like everyone to look at this thread i started on the other forum
https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20411.0
and use this new tracker each cycle is coloured..all settings and import spins etc ayk has kindly done for me
probably the best roulette tracker you will ever see
http://ayk.bplaced.net/tracker8/
large right hand side reults is a treams tracker for table layout and wheel layout which is on the pic below
Welcome back 6th!
Nice to see you're still active on the 'scene & aiming at beating the Roulette B* :thumbsup:
A lifetime hobby!
(*B: is for beast :D)
thanks...good to be back the other site is going downhill ..steadily for a year
Quote from: 6th-sense on September 19, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
thanks...good to be back the other site is going downhill ..steadily for a year
We certainly need a site where all non-gambling discussion is outright banned. That's the best moderation policy I can think of to have a decent productive betting forum.
(Okay, perhaps just a minuscule -single- general section but that's it)
I would do such a website myself but after pondering on what I want to do for the next decade I've decided to open new websites dedicated to enriching the public domain (with the successor of our BetSoftware suite continuing there) as well as another site devoted to the abundance movement. They go online this very month.
The most productive thing I can do is to bring great software to life as well as attempting to make a positive impact on people's lives with practical solutions.
sounds an interesting step look forward to it