More than 50% hit rate if flat betting or more than 50% winning stakes, if it is not flat. Could we win the higher bets less than 50% can work.
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#32
Even chance / Re: Can you win 5 bets in 50?
March 17, 2013, 10:50:22 PM
Sam!
It can be played so you just mark one figure like 1. If we win the first, we start again, if lose we change to 2, and bet 2. If win we start using 1. If the losses come we extend the string in betsize we are comfortable with. It will even in harder run end at last, but that last can take time. Most of the time it will of course go smoother, but the worse counts, as we know they will come. Stop as soon on plus.
It took me two hours to win 5 Euro using 0.05, everyone except one went nice, the bad one took most of the time.
It can be played so you just mark one figure like 1. If we win the first, we start again, if lose we change to 2, and bet 2. If win we start using 1. If the losses come we extend the string in betsize we are comfortable with. It will even in harder run end at last, but that last can take time. Most of the time it will of course go smoother, but the worse counts, as we know they will come. Stop as soon on plus.
It took me two hours to win 5 Euro using 0.05, everyone except one went nice, the bad one took most of the time.
#33
Even chance / Re: Can you win 5 bets in 50?
March 17, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
This one will never win much, and it can take very long time to come out. Anyhow it is close to always win, if handled right.
It is for just win, but only very small money. It can work well, but you can get sessions lasting days.
I recommend to break as soon on plus and restart. The bankroll have to be large, not a problem with 0.05 units.
I think it can stand for years playing, but not feed us during the time.
We can start the bot running flat until we win or are 147 back before we start, I think nobody has seen 200 spins with less than 53 of on of the EC. So the method is more or less just to "beat the game" which I belive it can on NZ, with very small winnings.
It looks easy to say just winn 5 in 50 or 100, but we know how the game can go so we may need much more. As soon we have to split the string the winning bets must increase, but still 1/3 of the present string. We can chop it in two sessions as well, but still the winning bets needed will increase. The risk is otherwise it ends as a Martingale.
Opposite to classic Labby, we should start with a longer string like 1111111111111111 and as soon we see profit start all over.
It is for just win, but only very small money. It can work well, but you can get sessions lasting days.
I recommend to break as soon on plus and restart. The bankroll have to be large, not a problem with 0.05 units.
I think it can stand for years playing, but not feed us during the time.
We can start the bot running flat until we win or are 147 back before we start, I think nobody has seen 200 spins with less than 53 of on of the EC. So the method is more or less just to "beat the game" which I belive it can on NZ, with very small winnings.
It looks easy to say just winn 5 in 50 or 100, but we know how the game can go so we may need much more. As soon we have to split the string the winning bets must increase, but still 1/3 of the present string. We can chop it in two sessions as well, but still the winning bets needed will increase. The risk is otherwise it ends as a Martingale.
Opposite to classic Labby, we should start with a longer string like 1111111111111111 and as soon we see profit start all over.
#34
Even chance / Re: Can you win 5 bets in 50?
March 17, 2013, 04:20:30 PM
We can come in problem if we do not hit 5 times in a reasonable time. Then we can extend the string to get lower bets, but the compromise is we will need half the amount of the extention in more hits.
Ex.
100
100
can be
50
50
50
50
In this case we need two hits instead of one, the effect on the bankroll will probably not change.
Ex.
100
100
can be
50
50
50
50
In this case we need two hits instead of one, the effect on the bankroll will probably not change.
#35
Even chance / Can you win 5 bets in 50?
March 17, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
We know martingale can survive maybe 12 losing bets in a row. If we want aggressive play, we need many units. That's is possible if we use low stakes, and go for winning, rather than much money.
The Labby will win if about a third of the bets are winnings. Can we change it to a fixed number of winnings. We can if we accept high stakes, but win if we win a fixed times regardless of the losses.
Say we want to win 10 units in 5 winning bets, and we chose a NZ penny wheel. In 100 spins we can not lose less than 5 bets or?
We make a line of ten figures:
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
That is a fixed Labby.
Spin one we bet 2 units and lose.
We distribute the losses in the fixed length string.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose.
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
3
We bet 5 units and lose
2
2
2
2
3
3
3
3
3
3
We bet 5 units and lose
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
4
we bet 7 units and lose
3
3
4
4
4
4
4
4
4
4
We bet 7 units and lose
4
4
5
5
5
5
5
4
4
4
We bet 8 units and lose
5
5
5
5
5
5
5
6
6
6
We bet 11 units and we win
5
5
5
5
5
5
6
6
We bet 11 units and lose
6
6
6
7
7
7
7
7
We bet 13 units and lose
8
8
8
8
8
8
9
9
We bet 17 units and win
8
8
8
8
8
9
We bet 17 units and lose
11
11
11
11
11
11
We bet 22 units and lose
15
15
15
15
15
13
We bet 28 units and win.
15
15
15
15
We bet 30 units and lose
22
22
23
23
No the stakes can go high, but should we just losing?
We bet 45 units and win
22
23
We bet 45 units and lose
44
46
We bet 90 units and lose
88
92
We bet 180 units and win.
How many times we lose does not matter as long we have a bankroll and are able to hit 5 times on an EC.
Do in fun until you know the play, it can as all methods lose, and lose heavy if not five hits will come in a very long run.
The table limit should not be a problem.
The Labby will win if about a third of the bets are winnings. Can we change it to a fixed number of winnings. We can if we accept high stakes, but win if we win a fixed times regardless of the losses.
Say we want to win 10 units in 5 winning bets, and we chose a NZ penny wheel. In 100 spins we can not lose less than 5 bets or?
We make a line of ten figures:
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
That is a fixed Labby.
Spin one we bet 2 units and lose.
We distribute the losses in the fixed length string.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose.
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
We bet 3 units and lose
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
3
We bet 5 units and lose
2
2
2
2
3
3
3
3
3
3
We bet 5 units and lose
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
4
we bet 7 units and lose
3
3
4
4
4
4
4
4
4
4
We bet 7 units and lose
4
4
5
5
5
5
5
4
4
4
We bet 8 units and lose
5
5
5
5
5
5
5
6
6
6
We bet 11 units and we win
5
5
5
5
5
5
6
6
We bet 11 units and lose
6
6
6
7
7
7
7
7
We bet 13 units and lose
8
8
8
8
8
8
9
9
We bet 17 units and win
8
8
8
8
8
9
We bet 17 units and lose
11
11
11
11
11
11
We bet 22 units and lose
15
15
15
15
15
13
We bet 28 units and win.
15
15
15
15
We bet 30 units and lose
22
22
23
23
No the stakes can go high, but should we just losing?
We bet 45 units and win
22
23
We bet 45 units and lose
44
46
We bet 90 units and lose
88
92
We bet 180 units and win.
How many times we lose does not matter as long we have a bankroll and are able to hit 5 times on an EC.
Do in fun until you know the play, it can as all methods lose, and lose heavy if not five hits will come in a very long run.
The table limit should not be a problem.
#36
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 17, 2013, 12:58:18 PMQuote from: Chrisbis on March 17, 2013, 12:52:41 PM
Hi Ralph.
You say earlier in the topic that you are you(@1st)betting against the ECONOMIC table result.
Is this on any one of the Six Even Chance bets ?
(low, high, even, odd, red, black)
I can tell by your pay back it's a 1:1 payout ratio.
I just wondered how you choose which opposite EC result for a given number you bet on?
.
Example.
Marquee result :#2 (black, low, even)
Which of three three EC's do you bet against?
In that particular play here it was the colors, they are easy to follow with a bad sight. Any or more should do. I use to get better betting FTL, and parlay.
#37
Online Casinos / Re: Anybody else got the history disabled
March 17, 2013, 12:53:03 PM
I have never had problem with real mode history, just in fun. It may be so they have limit space for it, and the boters use the game with many spins.
#38
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 17, 2013, 07:46:34 AM
5 more sessions using an aggressive positive progression, Reversed Martingale and step to half on loss.
I will stop real play for a while and switch to fun.
I will stop real play for a while and switch to fun.
#39
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 17, 2013, 07:10:35 AM
5 more 1 2 3 5 7 9 11 parlay, it works great when the table shows series.
#40
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 17, 2013, 06:39:10 AM
Five sucessful sessions with 10 Euro target.
Possitive progression using 1 2 3 5 7 9 11
Up on on a win and down one on a loss, FTL. max down was 22 units.
Pic shows end of sessions and all EC sessions reported here.
Possitive progression using 1 2 3 5 7 9 11
Up on on a win and down one on a loss, FTL. max down was 22 units.
Pic shows end of sessions and all EC sessions reported here.
#41
General Discussion / Re: Is there any known 15 step progression for even money bets ...
March 17, 2013, 05:55:45 AM
The 127 step labby using 126 zero and one 1, may give you 1 plus after 1 to several 100 spins. Hardly playable but a long "progression".
There are some using it, as they think it is impossible to lose 127 times, before any spot on one plus. It is near flat betting, and i think it still can grow at some cases.
An other "labby" is 20 starting 1, and we distribute the losses among all to keep the bets down, this needs 1/3 winning bets.
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 2 on red loss
2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on black loss
2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on red win
2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on red loss
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 .........
We can extend it if it start grow when a few is left. Be prepared for long sessioins.
Breadwinner can hold long, but lose as well sometimes.
There are some using it, as they think it is impossible to lose 127 times, before any spot on one plus. It is near flat betting, and i think it still can grow at some cases.
An other "labby" is 20 starting 1, and we distribute the losses among all to keep the bets down, this needs 1/3 winning bets.
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 2 on red loss
2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on black loss
2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on red win
2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 on red loss
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 .........
We can extend it if it start grow when a few is left. Be prepared for long sessioins.
Breadwinner can hold long, but lose as well sometimes.
#42
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 16, 2013, 07:53:06 PM
I did one more flat bet session, 1 Euro stake and 0,05 in dummybets,
#43
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 16, 2013, 07:13:18 PMQuote from: Sputnik on March 16, 2013, 05:56:37 PM
So you see red you bet black and if you see red again you bet black until six loses, then you once bet that does six will become seven.
Is that how you bet ?
Cheers
Every bet and numbers are there in the pics.
#44
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 16, 2013, 05:04:33 PMQuote from: Chrisbis on March 16, 2013, 04:45:56 PM
Hey Ralph.......how come in your last post,
u say you could not do free spins!?
Chris.
Bv do not allow it, you can make some "trick bet", but I do not dare.
#45
Even chance / Re: Try to get 10 units
March 16, 2013, 02:53:11 PM
This trial is using flat betting. I can not do "free spins", so I have used 0.05 (the lowest chips) while waiting for a 1 Euro bet.
The method was to bet follow the last, 0.05 until a win, then start with 1 Euro until a loss. The thought is to catch a streak of winnings and try to avoid losing streaks by betting 0.05.
It worked, but took many spins, a drowndown at 12 at most. Some 0.05 won of course too, and chopping after a win cost 1 Euro.
The method was to bet follow the last, 0.05 until a win, then start with 1 Euro until a loss. The thought is to catch a streak of winnings and try to avoid losing streaks by betting 0.05.
It worked, but took many spins, a drowndown at 12 at most. Some 0.05 won of course too, and chopping after a win cost 1 Euro.