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[HansHuckebein]

So is CEH actually "flatbetting" not flatbetting? End on a double win - WW or double units size? It smells on MM to me.

From w3m.com:

"Nothing complex, simply commonsense. If your bet does not win on straight level betting...your bet is no good....go back to the drawing board.

May I explain by way of example? Our bet has shown on occasions to lose 6 in a row. So we need to multiply our session bank  3x6 = 18 (we round it up to 20) Therefore all the trustees always divide by 20. They have 20 bets of the same amount to use each session. In most sessions we never use more than 2 units from our bank before being in profit.

Ie. If we use a playing bank of £10.000 for a session we have 20 bet units of £500. For each bet.

You can now see that you must "Fit" your bets to the weakest part of your bet. All very simple. Do not be fooled by complexity. Keep everything simple and safe."

cheers

hans

[XXVV]

This was one of the smartest bits of advice from CEH - "fit your bets to the weakest part of your bet".

Study of the bet characteristics, ie the results spread and outcome distribution criteria, is the way forward. The weakest parts can be identified as for example whether to a bell curve or a decay curve, and to trap the bet results over the spread of bets so as to be most effective.


This has to do with efficient bets.


Flat staking applied to a decay curve for example is ideal where the initial bets can have maximum impact.


A stop loss needs to be arranged to determine the extent of practical efficiency and thus determine the worst case loss.


Or even worse the multiple losses that could result unless key rules are established.


Once that worst case loss is established over large sample tests, the degree to which the bet size is handled can show how quickly a loss can be recovered.


The rate of recovery from loss is key to progress, as is the frequency of most effective hits as early as possible.


Hope that fits into this mix.
XXVV

[Razor]

Hello again.
I have played a lot of sessions in my 2 Casinos (Land based) and I have managed to double my chips value.Now more profit will come .

I had the curiosity to read what happened to the topic that I posted with the help I gave and it was a nice surprize to see that most of the members are not negative in searching for the winning bet except the old full of negativity ND.
ND the fact that you can t find the bet doesn t mean that it doesn t exist.

I will help some more you people.

1) Carlitos once again you are not remembering the clues that CHE gave and you are making people confused in here with the wrong posts that you are posting.
CHE had clearly stated that from 30 sessions the 1 or 2(the most) is allowed to lose less than 10 chips in the end.(10 chips is nothing) So my bet is correct because this is how it performs.
30 sessions only 1 loss
30 sessions 2 losses
30 sessions NO loss.
This is about how it should perform.

2)sqzbox all the clues that you have gathered are correct

3)The triggerd of the bet are NOT on the Ecs...very importand
When CHE was telling movements on the carpet it is so easy to understand that it not the Ecs...

4) Do not care what the movements are doing on the inside bets...the triggers are not on the inside bets

5)The bet is very simple to be applied. With a little trainning you knwo where to bet in a sec...but you do not have to do any trainning because as you are testing the bet to see if it s the right one..the trainning is happening.

6)The bet does not have 2 parts... It has 3.
I said so many times to read the clues and read them correct..I alaso said to read the shikamaru s clues and he clearly started that the bet has 3 parts.
7)Only with RX is easier to SPOT the movements ...the hard part is to spot the correct ones because on every spin a lot of movements are happening.
RX not only will help you find those movements but it will also make your life easier in testing the bet.
Knowing what is the last doz or col or Ecs can t help you because only 1 spin is NOT a movement.
Only the flashing thing that RX has is helping in spoting the movements.

The last and most importand clue.
Find the formula...find where to change from the part 1 to 2 and to 3 ... it is obvious that a loss will make the part to change.

Thanks for the nice Pms that you sent me people but I will not answer to any of them.
In fact if i will ever post again it will also be in public like now.

[Big EZ]

6)The bet does not have 2 parts... It has 3.
I said so many times to read the clues and read them correct..I alaso said to read the shikamaru s clues and he clearly started that the bet has 3 parts.
7)Only with RX is easier to SPOT the covements ...the hard pasrt is to spot the correct ones because on every spin a lot of movements are happening.
RX not only will help you find those movements but it willa also make your life easier in testing the bet.
Knowing what is the last doz or col or Ecs can t help you because only 1 spin is NOT a movement.
Only the flashing thing that RX has is helping in spoting the movements.




When you say that 1 spin is not a movement could you clarify that further? Is it 3 spins as in a full cycle for either dozen or column? Or is it more?

3 parts? hmmmm now this gets me thinking....does this mean it is more of a parachute bet where the 3rd part is where all 4 bets are up at the same time to cover more of the possible runs/changes?

Thanks again for any help you provide and may your good fortune keep up with you

[Razor]

I think it is not nessesary to post this but a lot of stupit ppl are on planet so :

DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO ANYONE THAT CLAIMS HE HAS THE BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF SOMEONE HAS THE BET HE DOES N.O.T NEED ANY MONEY FROM ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS ENTERING IN A CASINO AND HE GETS THE MONEY HE NEEDS.

[weddings]

I think it is not nessesary to post this but a lot of stupit ppl are on planet so :

DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO ANYONE THAT CLAIMS HE HAS THE BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF SOMEONE HAS THE BET HE DOES N.O.T NEED ANY MONEY FROM ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS ENTERING IN A CASINO AND HE GETS THE MONEY HE NEEDS.

I have a request. Can you play at any live dealer and proceed to play your system. Show us your consistent withdrawal as a proof? Its always ppl saying they have the winning bet but there's no proof its all talks.

[iggiv]

there is no winning bet. it's nonsense. it doesn't exist. Whatever is winning now will lose soon. Any stiff pattern. But that does not mean, that it's impossible to win in roulette.

[Mike]

Of course there's no consistent winning bet. The very idea is ludicrous. This guy razor is having a bit of a giggle at your expense!


Give it up folks, concentrate on other speculative activities like poker, trading or sports betting, where the odds aren't fixed and the expectation isn't necessarily negative. 

[TwoCatSam]

Are we speaking of a bet that never loses?  I mean, it wins every spin and makes money?

OR

Are we speaking of a bet that always has a chip in the right place.  It wins something every spin but may actually lose money as other chips are down, too.

OR

Are we speaking of a bet that may lose five out of ten spins and still produce a profit?

What the heck is a "constant winning bet" anyway??

TwoCat

[6th-sense]

hi razor could you give us a 100 spin sample with the profit at the end?...or how many wins or losses...or is this asking too much

[TwoCatSam]

Ding dong, Marshall.  I believe you shot the answer right at us!

[Carlitos]

Letts do an recap of this,




- Triggers on the movements are no EC's or inside numbers.


- The bet has 3 parts. Probaly, EC's high and low and Red and black, dozens and columns.


- How is the bet being played? At least 1 EC in combination with an dozen or column? Or are all the chips being played at the same time. As CEH have said on his website, most of the times no more then 2 chips are being used before being in profit.


- Dozens and columns are the trigger for the movements?


- And, every spin there is an trigger and an bet, so these movements must be seen within 2 or 3 spin results even if RX is being used to discover what it is that moves.




 

DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO ANYONE THAT CLAIMS HE HAS THE BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IF SOMEONE HAS THE BET HE DOES N.O.T NEED ANY MONEY FROM ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE IS ENTERING IN A CASINO AND HE GETS THE MONEY HE NEEDS. 

Note how " not " is being written here, " N.O.T. ", what does it mean, " not odds the ", " the odds not ".


Ps, letts keep this forum and threat clean of words like " stupid " etc.... you may not agree with someone but it is no reason to start swearing.






Carlitos 

[Razor]

 It s funny asking me for proofs because I m not here to sell anything.
Do you beleave it? FINE ... You don t beleave it? Also FINE.

2CatSam from the comments and questions you are making here it is obvious that you haven t read a single page of Win3mill...so you shouldn t even participate in this topic.
If you will ever take the time and the parience to read them(I doubt) then we can speak again.

For the ppl that are searching for the bet:
Open RX and inset a spin file of real Casino spins.
Spin and observe the movements that are happening on the dozens and on colums( I ain t gonna say particularly look on the Doz or look on the Col...I have already said enough...it s  your bussines to find what the triggers and formula is)

Observe of a movement that is NOT happening as much as it should(Ringing a bell?)
Then try to trap this by trapping the opposite(Ringing a bell?).
When you are testing you will realize that the 3d part of the formula must me played in order to make the consistent losses(at some point of the playing) ,consistent wins...and then part 1 or 2 again.

The hard part is the 4^th chip where to be placed...but when you will have found the formula with more work you will find where this 4^th chip must be placed.

With just the 3 chips you will have found a bet that is not winning but its not losing either(RINGING A BELL??)
This simple means that in every 100 placed bets you will be close to 0 (+5 or -5 in the end etc.)
And with the adding of the 4^th chip you will have a winner(Ringing a bell???)

Charles clues were so specific and when you will find the bet you will realize that every single clue was bits of the puzzle that will have a real meanning when you will have solved the puzzle.

Good luck.

Ps . Carlitos once again you have everything wrong.
Charles never said " most of the times no more then 2 chips are being used before being in profit.".
He said most of the times no more than 2 placed BETS(meaning 2 betting spins) are being used before being in profit.

These mistakes of urs will make you never find the bet..sorry.
Read all the pages and shikamaru clues again.

[HansHuckebein]

Razor, I just want to say "thank you" for taking the time to explain things. I really appreciate it.

cheers

hans

[Sputnik]

My challenge with this topic still stands ,,, if some one dear to argue against it ...
Let me remind you ... you can not win +1 or +0 to overcome the attempts doing so ... at least not as many times as i can ...
Simple math when it boils down to flat betting ...

Cheers