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Title: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 20, 2013, 07:16:25 AM
Tracking:

There are six (6) double-streets. We track them in the order they are spun.

We create an even-chance bet comprised of 3 on each.Two groups:

F = First three (latest spun).
S = Second three (The "sleepy" ones).

Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 20, 2013, 07:21:25 AM
Selection:


We bet the group having at least 2 out of 3 from the last spins.


Example:


FSF = F
SFF = F
SSF = S
SFS = S


Exception:


In the event there is:


SFSF


or


FSFS


We bet for the Zig-Zag to continue (for as long as it continues).


As soon as it breaks the Zig-Zag, we go back to 2-out-of-3 mode.



Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: Chrisbis on May 20, 2013, 12:22:27 PM
Nice idea Vic. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 22, 2013, 06:55:07 AM
Quote from: Chrisbis on May 20, 2013, 12:22:27 PM
Nice idea Vic. :thumbsup:
Thanks Chris.

With a soft progression in the ATILA family this becomes "interesting".
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: Sputnik on May 22, 2013, 07:59:16 AM

Nice Vic ...
I have a complete framework for this taking advantage of sleeping events.
Some times you only face dozen position against your even money position as one line sleep for a long period of time.
That is if you use cycle play.
One direct hit and you done.

Do you recommend do this with cycle play.
When all lines have a show you start over with a new cycle.
I don't see why you would play for S = Sleeper position when only two lines might show as one sleep and that would become dozen position.

?

Cheers
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: FLAT_IN_O on May 23, 2013, 06:52:47 AM
And have you tried LvF 3 lines...betting all 6 D'Alembert,in cycle of 6 spins.
And after 6 cyclesx 6=36 spins if result be 3-3 or 4-2 you should be on top.
This is not same as LvF 9 splits.....as here you have 2 diff.bets going consequently.
Once you reach the decent plus,switch to another method,before tornado arrives,
as it always do if you on the same road.
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 23, 2013, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Sputnik on May 22, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Do you recommend do this with cycle play.
As you please!  :nod:

This is one of those "base bets", 100% open to modifications & tweaks  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Sputnik on May 22, 2013, 07:59:16 AMWhen all lines have a show you start over with a new cycle.
I don't see why you would play for S = Sleeper position when only two lines might show as one sleep and that would become dozen position.

Interesting approach here. We do know it is quite likely at least one sleeper will happen in the cycle. By "law of the third" we have two.

Saving sleepers chips is a great tweak for the fellows to ponder. [attachimg=1] Sputnik.
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 23, 2013, 11:23:19 AM
Quote from: FLAT_IN_O on May 23, 2013, 06:52:47 AM
And have you tried LvF 3 lines...betting all 6 D'Alembert,in cycle of 6 spins.
And after 6 cyclesx 6=36 spins if result be 3-3 or 4-2 you should be on top.
This is not same as LvF 9 splits.....as here you have 2 diff.bets going consequently.
Once you reach the decent plus,switch to another method,before tornado arrives,
as it always do if you on the same road.

[attachimg=1] for the advice dear Ivica,

I haven't tried LvF 3 lines with D'alembert as you mention it; cycles do have potential eh!

...Hopefully tornado arrives when we're long gone from the table.
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: GreatGrampa on May 23, 2013, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: VLS on May 22, 2013, 06:55:07 AM
With a soft progression in the ATILA family this becomes "interesting".

You hit the nail right on its head. For playing lines with an even chance return, ATTILA is the most suited one. But the funny thing is you need to know how to control it getting out of hands. As we all know ATTILA was a hun :) and huns are very aggressive. If you can put a wire on it and show controlled aggression, it will yield greater results. It doesn't matter which bet selection you use(for deciding on which 3 lines to bet), as long as you make it dynamic and get a hit rate closer to 10-20% (yes hit rate closer to 10-20%) you will be a winner with Attila for lines.

I am always an advisory of cyclic progressions, but I have seen Attila working better here because of the nature of the bets (wider table size, lower number of options, even odds). But don't forget to control them!
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: zabbot on May 23, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
hey mates, where i can found more about Attila progresions???
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: GreatGrampa on May 23, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=47.0 (http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=47.0)
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: VLS on May 23, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
Regular: http://betselection.cc/negative/atila-progression/ (http://betselection.cc/negative/atila-progression/)

Delayed: http://betselection.cc/negative/*delayed*-atila/ (http://betselection.cc/negative/*delayed*-atila/)
Title: Re: The F&S on double-streets
Post by: Sputnik on May 24, 2013, 05:34:25 AM

I will put a word out for (( Regression Up & Pull )) ...
It gets pretty solid and stable results using this kind of selection.

If a win you let it ride.
If not you break even or bet until four loses.

This with a good MM strategy and you have one complete playing model to follow.

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