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Title: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Stepkevh on December 28, 2012, 05:15:00 AM
Problem: because i'm from Belgium im not allowed to visit some casino websites like ladbrokes or bet 365.
           
Question: i know it is possible to use some other IP from another country that would allow me acces to these casinos
              What possibilitys do i have and how to handle it ?

Stef
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 28, 2012, 05:49:00 AM
Hello dear Stef, do you want to:


a) Visit the sites only.


b) Gamble with real money there.


They are two very different games.


You can always search for: <target country> + windows VPS


VPS = Virtual Private Server


Basically a slice of a dedicated server connected 24/7 to the net, which acts as your own computer.


Once logged to your VPS, the IP and everything else: cookies, files, registry, etc. are for all purposes the ones from the rented VPS server.


You become a "Ghost" to the casino.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Stepkevh on December 28, 2012, 06:00:15 AM
i want to do everything that everyone else can do  ;D

If i go to bet365 i get the attached picture.

On ladbrokes i can go to the website but when i try to use the demotable
i get a message saying that i'm from a country that's not allowed to play with them.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 28, 2012, 06:19:33 AM
Renting a server on another country is not enough to play.

Since your personal data (ID, passport, license) clearly has your country disclosed, you'll need a "Mule" person to open an account on his unblocked country. There's no way around it.

Your rented VPS server must match your Mule's country.

Search must be: <mule's country> + windows VPS

i.e.

UK windows VPS

Canada windows VPS

Germany windows VPS

etc.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
Hey Vic,
    I have an IP Hider that doesn't let casinos know where I am actually at. I was in Nepal in my last casino trip and moneybooker denied any deposit in any online casino (I wanted to fund bv from moneybookers) seeing my local IP. I used IP hider to deposit and then closed it and played without any trouble. One thing was very bad though, it eats the speed and u can't use internet for high speed games.
          What could be the best way?
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 30, 2012, 03:20:43 PM
Hello dear Sumit, as per your requirements in chat, you could setup a virtual machine (virtualbox.org (http://virtualbox.org)) and use a program such as showmypc.com (http://showmypc.com) to outsource the screen and mouse.

The casino software is physically ran from India, the remote user only sees the screen and controls mouse to lay bets, whatever the remote country might be.

No communication is ever done from the casino to the 3rd-party remote user.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2012, 04:55:06 PM
But with showmypc or teamviewer, the mouse action and visuals are not very accurate and fast.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 30, 2012, 11:33:33 PM
Remote user can use a remote clicker to place bets if screen update rates are an issue.


I'm afraid with home connection speed things are limited dear Sumit; as a general rule, you just can't funnel HD video remotely and expect your connection not to take a hit, but -hey!- they can be overcame by these remote artifacts such as a remote-controlled clicker to place bets 100% accurately as well as in time, and having visuals only for confirmation.


If your remote player is happy with knowing the bets are right, then the better. If he wants full-speed action on remote video from your computer, it might be hard unless you own a really good upstream flow, which -if you ask me- is not worth to incur in extra charges just for the visual candy.


If I were the remote player I'd be happy to know bets are placed right by means of the remote clicker and they are all being taken on time. Visuals would be only for confirmation :)
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Albalaha on December 31, 2012, 04:34:57 AM
Victor,
        The term "remote clicker" needs clarification. Say, I am in banned country and using my friend's account of UK, may I use clicker from my computer?
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 31, 2012, 04:51:28 AM
Quote from: albalaha on December 31, 2012, 04:34:57 AM
        The term "remote clicker" needs clarification.


The remote clicker is a piece of software which places bets on behalf of the remote player, in your local computer's casino window.


This ensures the intended bet is placed and the confirm button is pressed on time.


Placing manual bets on a teamviewer connection is cumbersome and prone to errors. It's not uncommon for the player to face depleting time of bets, especially on live casinos with 25 seconds (ie playtech).


It's no different than a text chat application. The remote player would write:


Bet: 2@1-3, 5@1-12, 5@3-36


The remote clicker received this text and places bets (moves the mouse and clicks) on behalf of the remote player, thus ensuring betting is done correctly and on time, regardless of video lags.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: Albalaha on December 31, 2012, 05:50:57 AM
Can't it run as a normal bot? I mean automated.
Title: Re: Making use of another (country) IP
Post by: VLS on December 31, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
Quote from: albalaha on December 31, 2012, 05:50:57 AM
Can't it run as a normal bot? I mean automated.


If you have a normal bot, the remote bettor isn't really into the equation. Right?