Yes, that was rewarding knowing that I'm in your head again. You know that phrase? I'm living there rent free.

Quote from: TheMagician on October 21, 2018, 03:08:12 PM

I see you are talking with yourself again. I can understand if your self-confessed schizophrenia would force you to do that in front of a mirror at home, but here in public? C�mon... Guess it must be in its late stages before the guys in white come knocking on that door of yours.

I remember when you applied to become a test pilot in my forum some years ago. It didn't take much to see you were basically a basket case with no visible skills warranting a participation in said forum. The ones that have been there for years now have made it quite well from what was offered based on pure math and physics.

You on the other hand, and I am referring back to some old posts of yours here  (I could bring them out to you in case u suffer from temporary amnesia), have been suffering from bouts of desperation, suicidal thoughts and some other more serious mano-depressive states of sheer mental degradation that shouldn't be mentioned here.

You are gravely mistaken if I attack such mental disorders. What I do approach in your case with what you may have experienced as personal attacks, is your well documented dishonesty, where the amounts of accusations of fraud and mere confidence crimes against individuals on this forum and others ones too are sufficient to conclude that you are a simple con man, and from what I have witnessed myself, intelligent to a certain degree, allowing you to present a reasoning sufficient enough to con your objects of choice as long as they do not turn your ignorance against you and laugh straight in your face, in which case you play the indignation card, which of course all con artists do as a last defense.

Any further facts about you are merely superfluous as the currently available facts are archived for all to see should they do some research on you and realize there are more than enough revealing your pathological inclination to lie and con people.  I suspect this ability and mental weakness has been with you since childhood. The reason probably to be established by a professional psychiatrist and not me or any other member here.

Didn't even finish reading this. Have a football game on. I see you are not attacking me again. Wonderful how that equates.

Quote from: TheMagician on October 21, 2018, 08:23:57 AM
Ah, so.  The walking con-job is back once it was clear the forum changed owners again.

https://betselection.cc/roulette-forum/foxtrot-alpha-5-makes-261-units-in-49-bets/msg53864/#msg53864


Pot Kettle Black.


You are not qualified to dismiss coincidence caused patterns and trends. That is self confessed too. Knowing that you would ignore a sleeping dozen that sleeps for 30 spins in a row makes me happy.


You have a huge attitude problem with anyone that disagrees with you. Yep, it's a trend. You are so angry that you can't hide it. You need people to target. You need the forum. You can't make an argument without making a personal attack. I believe you think that tolerance is only something that you claim is a positive trait that you have while completely keeping it as useless to only people superior like yourself. You can't tolerate me and so you must attempt to ridicule me. Still not answering how probability negates trends and patterns. Why can't you and the other mathNazies out there ever deal with this question? It is you that depends on prediction. It is you that can't or won't see patterns and trends. You are the blind one. Since you can't see them there is know way that you can know if they work at times or not. You can't deal with not having a mathematical or physical edge. So you spew your unsubstantiated dogma as if you are pontificating Newton. All you have succeeded in doing is pointing out your hate. I'm glad you are miserable. You are stuck with it. Keep up the good trend.


Any more conversation with you is like being caught in your flypaper trap. You are condescending, egotistical, and basically poison to normal discussion. If you are so smart then why are you also so blind to your own imperfections? The angry member. The math expert of all things randomness. You don't fit well. It comes off as anti-social. And the most blinding of all, why are you here? Are you a spandex boy come to save the unwashed? We have been tolerating the mathBoyz for decades. We can tolerate you too.

Quote from: TheMagician on October 20, 2018, 08:39:03 AM
You see patterns where in reality there are none. And you additionally believe these patterns on the LAYOUT (table), are predicting a certain outcome. They do not.

What is on the layout, is a set of numbers that however you group them will offer the same probability of hitting depending on your BET SELECTION.

A certain layout pattern, be it a collection of straight ups seen as a street, dozen or column is no assurance for a correct future outcome. The probability is the same on any given spin.

It must be a real challenge to attempt to appear erudite while just stating the obvious. That's a real gift you have.


Let's break it down so that it is no longer magic. "You see patterns where in reality there are none."


It's magical thinking to think that is true. There are patterns and they have unique characteristics beyond the suspension of disbelief. They have beginnings, duration, quality towards perfection, and ending types. And most important of all, probability can't forecast or predict when they will occur.


"And you additionally believe these patterns on the LAYOUT (table), are predicting a certain outcome."


Not true again, more magical thinking perhaps. You don't need to have magical skills of prediction to place a bet on a pattern or trend. And you don't need a "red herring" to make yourself out to be a good point maker. It's just a straw man argument that serves to elevate yourself and has nothing to do with using patterns or trends the right way, that way that you are apparently oblivious to. Try thinking how a person would use a pattern and then make your dogmatic statements.


"What is on the layout, is a set of numbers that however you group them will offer the same probability of hitting depending on your BET SELECTION."


Having the same probability does not make trends and patterns automatically ineffective. There are two outcomes. it works or it does not work. Since the original premise is that a trend or a pattern is the result of coincidence and not some magic elf wondering around putting spells on wheels, or a magic mathBoyz trying to impress everyone, I would not be so righteous with indignation towards others that can clearly see you have blind spots.


"A certain layout pattern, be it a collection of straight ups seen as a street, dozen or column is no assurance for a correct future outcome. The probability is the same on any given spin."


There you go again. Probability allows for patterns and trends to work effectively at times. Probability can't prevent a coincidence from occurring. Probability can't predict when a coincidence will be effective or not. Only a fool feeds a trend that is not working. You look like you want all trend users to be fools. You look like you count on it to elevate yourself. It's cheap theatrics you know. You are stating the obvious and celebrating your achievements by it. Only you have accomplished nothing.


Somebody needed to say it.


It is a coincidence that a pattern appears. They are only seen by those that have set out to discover them. When it happens it has an eventual ending. It occurred while probability remained a constant. It occurred without any capacity for having the power of prediction. It happened irregardless of the opinions of weak minded math snobs. It happened anyway while the blind continues to lead the blind. And that is a trend too.


It does not matter that 20 reds in a row happened. The odds for each spin were a constant the entire way. A ranting maniac spewing math equations on a soapbox would have no effect on the coincidence. Course, this is not that case. His outbursts would only be a typical announce regarded as part and parcel of dealing with different personalities on a gambling forum. The trend happened. The pattern was perfect. At no time was the event predictable.


Now go find a way to argue your point with effectiveness. All you are doing is asking people to be impressed by stating the obvious.

So, after some considerable figuring, I'm moving back to 24 numbers from 18 numbers. Yes, jumping around again and proving that I don't have the HG. The stock trading like a casino video has caused me to figure out a way to flip the chances of succeeding in voluminous cycles of stop loss and stop win scenarios. It's based on entering a trade on the data available showing trends that continue upward. The range following the statistical average for that stock. I have worked out a way to duplicate the same activity on a Roulette wheel. I have formulated the balance points and worked them against the odds of winning on each spin. My method is both balanced and favorable to me if I win. It is based on a 50 / 50 chance to succeed. But it too pays off at 2 units if won and 1 unit if lost.


Now, based on my discovery I'm leaving the forums for good. I know I've been pissed off and stormed out of tyhe room before. This is not that. I'm gone, I did not pass away and I did not commit suicide as the roomer going around for gr8player is.


It's been fun. It really has been a blast talking and arguing with all of you.


Mark

Quote from: Mr J on August 13, 2018, 03:49:35 AM

My observation, >> the 23 32, 21 12, 31 13. When one of those six hits, the opposite number gets pounded by all (lol). Sometimes I join in, sometimes I don't. I can think of a few others but I won't list them all.

Ken

These are the crazy specials. I've noticed them for years. You see the finale number 5 and so any finale number 0 or 5, (0, 00, 10, 20, 30)  or (5, 15, 25, 35) will hit next.


Next comes the double digits ( 00, 11, 22, 33) when one hits another hits next.


Add to that your group ( 23 32, 21 12, 31 13),  and now you have 18 numbers. That's how I came up with the "Specials."


Instead of them driving me crazy I just turned them into an Even Chance bet. That's what the "S" stands for in my charts.

Just so people won't get confused here. I'm talking about sessions won or lost, not bets won or lost. I now play for short sessions where one good enough trend makes up a good session. I'm still swing trading the Roulette table. This is all about micro movements in small bites, like at a table for no more than an hour if you get into a war to win a session. And more often than not, a session is won with only 15 spins, where only five or six bets were placed on five or six spins of those 15. Most of the great players wait for that sequence where they can kill the casino with a monster trend. I know you advocate that Glen. So do other people here that play for favorable sequences and huge returns on the effort. For that you need to play for hours waiting for the hot spot to start.

It's not programming, but I did program my student #1 in just three short weeks. He won 43 sessions and lost 9 for a win ratio of 4.77:1 . A player using my method needs to win 2.333 times to make up for any lost session, for it to reach balance at 2.333:1 . My student is getting better also. My second student is just starting to practice. He does not want to use the practice software so he is doing all this training the hard way. The more the three of us work on this the more we will know about the win to loss ratio as it pertains to money. If I lower the win ratio to 4:1 then I will win four sessions to every 1 lost session. This should completely destroy the fallacy (1:1) known as the accepted mathematical truth. The house's edge will be the end of that "flat world" thinking. 


In case you can't figure this out, my stop win goal is lower than my stop loss point.

Let me make it real easy for you Glen.

Try Schizophrenia. I have always acknowledged it. Where have you been magic?

Here is the definable edge in reading randomness.


Number One. You don't know what is going to happen in future spins or cards dealt.


So everyone concludes because of that there can not be an edge in guessing.


That would be the end of it.


But there is something else to it. You can see trends. Now where reading randomness comes in, you use the same guessing technique to make bet selections from, in other words, guessing. You see a lot of singles so you choose that on the next bet you will bet on singles to win.


Here is where coincidence comes in. It is a coincidence that your bet wins or loses. You don't know what will happen. It does not matter what will happen. All you have to do is watch the trends created by the coincidences that are the results of bets. You can get good at adjusting to the results track of data caused just by placing bets. You could do all this guessing blindly. But why not have a method that selects bets.


To have an edge at this method you must become skillful at reading the conditions of the results data track. If you leave that aspect of guessing unresolved then you will experience the sequence of death that takes out your bankroll. It's that simple and it happens to be a real edge.


Don't believe it? Probably most of you. But Card Counters in Blackjack know when the conditions are favorable and then when to attack the deck. This is no different. It's just based on reading the conditions caused by coincidence instead of reading the variable change which is mathematical in base. You can know favorable conditions based on reading randomness.


Only you can't know them if you don't look for them.

Great thread idea. And it's mostly true, of others that is. My one and only student just knocked one out of the park today. The person is the only student that has my latest teaching software. He just won more than ten practice sessions on his own, only after two weeks of studying with me as his mentor. His reaction is that it might just be a lucky streak. But I know from his bets selections that I did a great job of preparing him for such a challenge. So not all claimers are here and then gone. I might post an update in a few weeks. But I just wanted you smart guys to know that it is really fun teaching a new player from scratch. It's far more fun than posting on the argue forever forums. It really helps if you know your stuff too. Private tutoring is way more enlightening. It's even better than 20 students all at once.

Quote from: Mr J on July 17, 2018, 10:43:24 PM
"The best roulette players play both online and in land based Casinos" >> Wrong.

Ken

I'll say it once more. I said it somewhere, on some forum.


As a programmer I can create a fake live feed with patched together video. But I can't put aside a real table where the outcomes can be compared for true live feed. But that does not matter much because RNG computer based internet casinos can cheat you and target you in one ten thousandth of a second. It can manipulate your play and bait you into fallacies to get you to chase your losses. I would if I had suckers coming in my internet door with dreams of hitting it rich.

I get that you don't want to hear more gizmotron crud. When you go looking for randomness characteristics you will run right into what causes them. You can decide that it is due or you will understand that it is just coincidence.


Once you see the global effect you will never be able to then not see it anymore.


Now you don't need to be bored by my content in your thread.

I got to read it all. I told you it would be good. This is where a person can learn to avoid magical thinking and open their minds to what really happens. This is what Glen should teach to paid students that want to beat Baccarat. It's fun to open a persons eyes. I'm sure Glen could find some software that would help teach Baccarat with.