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#31
Online Casinos / Re: New Penny Roulette at William Hill
January 12, 2017, 08:59:31 AM
Go to https://casino.williamhill.com/#!/lobby/new

and its the third one in on the second row.
(but it still doesn't work properly)
Perhaps if more people complain they'll fix it!


#32
I believe the best way to explain is by example so I've just played Roulette Pro at William Hill.
I played 42 spins in about 5 minutes stopping after the 'Hidden' dozen.
During the demo I won £14.00!

Here are the numbers played 17,3,33,8,1,12,7,0,16,27,32,15,5,15,36,29,21,28,5,13,34,8,3,23,5,26,14,15,28,26,20,9,34,29,16,33,9,28,24,0,27,4

In this session the maximum normal even chances missed are Black-6, Even-3, High 5.
However, RKG identifies 1 even chance that slept 21 times and several that slept 8 or more times.








#33
I usually see 12 sleepers occur between 37 & 50 spins.
The equivalent for 18 numbers would be 24 to 34 spins

I often bet on these as they frequently get hit within a few spins
Admittedly I have seen 12 sleep for 50 spins but this is quite rare.

In addition to this one off bet on 18 sleepers RKG watches the six usual (HL,RB,OE)
combinations on the table layout and 37 combinations on the wheel and 20+ combinations
of 3 table sixains. So I'm watching over 70 even chances that may occur occasionally
and repeatedly but this one set of 18 sleepers only occurs once in every game.

#34
One of my favourite bets is the hidden or secret  dozen.
This is occurs when 25 numbers have been hit and just 12 remain, it usually occurs after around 40 spins and is often considered a pretty reliable bet.

However, after recent discussions on Even Chance bets I noticed a similar phenomenon* on an even chances and have modified RouletteKeyGold accordingly.

At some stage in virtually every Roulette session there is a time when just 18 numbers remain unhit.

We've all probably seen the normal even chances sleep for over 20 spins but this set of 18 random numbers never seem to sleep for less !
So when only 18 numbers remain I believe they won't remain for long and so are probably worth betting on.
I'd even consider a Martingale progression! As in the second video below

I'd be interested to hear from anyone just how long 18 numbers have slept in your own play  and whether it was live or RNG
My record so far is 32 spins.
An explanation and two demos of cash play are below.
Any feedback will be much appreciated (I think !)







(phenomenon* I won this threw my spell chequer witch says its awl wright.)






#35
Online Casinos / New Penny Roulette at William Hill
December 30, 2016, 06:16:43 AM
Has anybody managed to play the New penny roulette at William Hill ?

Despite the name the smallest chip I can see is 10p.

I managed to get it in practice mode but when I click on 'Play for Real Money" I can't log in.

WH seem unable to help!

Update
I received a reply from WH  it said
"We apologize if we have not been able to get back to you sooner than expected. As checked, the matter concerning the minimum chip available for Penny Roulette (£0.10 when it should be £0.01) is already a known issue and is currently being worked on by our Technical Specialists. We will be releasing a new version of the game with the correct minimum chip however, there is no specific timeframe as to when this will be. Rest assured that this is being handled as a matter of importance. "

#36
I chose 4 just because it's easier for me to manage.
If you have too many bets you may not have time to place them all.

For example on bet 9 I place 21 bets in total (3 on sixains and 18 on single numbers) covering 2 'even' chances. This is easy enough on an RNG wheel which is manageable at your own pace, but tricky when playing live.(which I prefer)

Bear in mind, I'm not just watching High/Low, Odd/Even & Red/Black I'm observing another 70 or so even chances.
We all know how dangerous just following one even chance (or for that matter just one system)  can be and I suspect we've all seen runs approaching 20 or even more!

Over 1000 spins betting on just 1 sleep could easily give over 1500 bets.
While waiting for 4 could only gives around 150 bets.

In my earlier example I had 10 bets in 17 spins.
It proved profitable after 10 bets but was just as profitable after just 1 bet!

By using the Replay button in RKG I'm able to determine other methods would have fared as below:
(The numbers after the system title  refer to the button numbers in RKG and chapter numbers in my book.)
The numbers played were 30,30,17,35,9,7,9,9,17,19,4,17,5,22,27,4,8,31,

Using other systems from RKG could have proved more profitable


  • The Prudential System (chapter/button IV) showed a profit of 8 after 4 spins. But would have ,lost 5 over all 17 spins.
  • The Ex-Croupiers system (X) would have shown a profit of 7.
  • The Capitalist System (XI) would have shown a profit of 81 !!! (albeit at some risk)
  • Mini Capitalists system would have shown a profit of 18

    • The infallible system 37 after 8 spins.I may be wrong here but still a good profit!
    • The Paterson (XVI) would have shown a profit of 11 after 2 spins or 7 after 17
    All the above techniques are in RouletteKeyGold
    some (not all)  are explained on my website at http://www.winningrouletteplayer.com/systems.html
    but I'd rather you bought my book (isbn 9781500758806) or tried RKG for yourselves.




#37
Sorry to confuse you I'd included the stake. Admittedly, sometimes I'm one of the 5 out of 3 people who can't do maths.

So let's try again

Each winning bet returns 1 unit each losing bet loses 1 unit
In my previous real life example (last post). The figures were as follows:

Bet 1   Win      +1      balance=1
Bet 2   Lose    -1       balance=0
Bet 3   Lose    -1      balance=-1
Bet 4   Lose    - 1     balance=-2
Bet 5   Win     +1      balance=-1
Bet 6   Win     +1       balance=0
Bet 7   Lose    -1      balance=-1
Bet 8   Win     +1       balance=0
Bet 9   Win     +1     balance +1
Bet 9   Lose    -1       balance=0
Bet 10   Win     +1     balance =1


To conclude I made 10 bets
6 of which won returning 6 units
5 lost losing 5 units
leaving a total profit of 1 unit in the example given it was £9.00 ( I chose £9.00 units as its easily divisible by 18)

The bets were after any even chance slept 4 times in other words I was betting it wouldn't sleep a fifth time.

The chances of an even chance sleeping 4 times are 1in 16
The chances of an even chance sleeping 5 times are 1in 32
(before anybody says I know its nearer 18 & 37 respectively due to the zero effect.)
My theory is that any even chance will sleep for 4 times more often than it will sleep for 5 times and by betting level stakes once only you come out in profit
but anything can happen !
In my example I only covered a few spins (but observed 70 even chances) I could have gone on and maybe won more or I could have lost.
So I stopped while ahead.

P.S
Believe it or not I am a qualified Maths tutor ! But qualifying was the most difficult thing I've ever done!
#38
Here's an actual example playing the numbers

30,30,17,35,9,7,9,9,17,19,4,17,5,22,27,4,8,31

from a real game of Roulette Pro with William Hill.

I didn't have time to wait for just one even chance so I'll played all of them. My unit is £9 as this is the equivalent of 18 bets at £0.50.

I placed one bet only  of £9.00 on every even chance that slept 4 times.
I'm afraid I didn't record the successfully record the game as a video.

But I won 6 bets and lost 5 so finish with a profit of 1 unit (£9.00). If these figures are incorrect then William Hill are in dire trouble !

Opening Balance 125.60

Spin 1 :30
Spin 2 :30
Spin 3 :17
Spin 4 :35

Bet 1
Spin 5
The 18 numbers following 8 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them (50p on each number)
Result Win on number 9
balance now 134.10
----------------------
Bet 2
Spin 6
Bet on 3 sixains Once only
1-6,10-15 & 22-27
Lost on number 7
Blance now
125.60
-------------------
Bet 3
Spin 7
18 numbers from 34 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them (50p on each number)
Lost on number 9
Blance now
116.6
------------------
Bet 4
Spin 8
Evens have missed 4 spins
I bet £9.00 on evens
Lost on number 9
Balance 107.60
---------------
Bet 5
Spin 9
18 numbers from 0 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them (50p on each number)
Win 0n 17
Balance 116.10
-----------------
Bet 6
Spin 10
High numbers have missed 4 spins
I bet £9.00 on High
Win on 19
Balance 125.60
----------------
Bet 7
Spin 11
18 numbers from 34 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them
Lost on 4
Balance 116.10
---------------------
Bet 8
Spin 12
18 numbers from 36 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them
Win on 5
Balance 125.60
--------------------------
Bet 9
Spin 13
18 numbers from 33 have missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them
and 3 sixains missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them
Win on 22
Lose on 22
Balance 125.60
-------------------
Bet 10
Spin 17
3 sixains (18 numbers)  missed 4 spins
I bet £9 on them
Win on 31
Balance 134.60
#39
Many runs of 4 stop at 4 some go on to 5. It could be half of them but as long as it's less than 66.66% a profit is made.

If red sleeps for 4 say 100 times and you make 100 bets on red. Then if red sleeps for 5 say 66 times and you lose 66 times . But you win 34 times and still show a profit of 2.
(34 winning bets = 68 less 66 losing bets.)

Occasionally you lose more than 66 bets out of 100 then you lose but you usually show a profit.

Also there's no need to stick to Red when RKG watches another 70 or so 'even' chances.


#40
I was recently playing at DublinBet when RKG informed me that 12 adjacent numbers on the wheel had 'slept' 20 times.
Quite a rare occurrence. Luckily I was recording at the time and was able to place a bet as shown in the video below.



#41
Level Stake betting on even chances using RouletteKeyGold

I'll count even chances any of the 18 number bets as counted by Roulette Key Gold. (I know its not quite an even chance bet being 18 out of 37 numbers.)

I'll use Red as an example but any set of 18 numbers will suffice.

During a session of 1000 spins one can expect red to sleep 4 times (BBBB) on average for around 31 times.

Similarly, one can expect red to sleep 5 times (BBBBB) on average for around 16 times.

Assuming Red won't sleep a fifth time bet on Red every time it sleeps 4 times

Total stake 31 units

If 16 of these bets lose we lose 16 units. However, the other 15 bets win returning 30 units.This shows an overall profit of 14 units. (a fairly typical result)
Of course it's still possible to lose but it is a rare occurrence. (according to my spreadsheet.

Unfortunately, few of us have time to play 1000 spins waiting for RED to sleep 4 times (on average 32 minutes)

But what happens if we bet when any even chance or set of 18 numbers sleeps 4 times, the time take is drastically reduced to only a few minutes between bets!

(If using level stakes on 18 different numbers the stake needs to be 18 times the minimum stake)



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Incidentally, I've recently come across Powtoon for making cartoon videos, my first attempt at using it is below, let me know what you think.
It's free and I think I can use it to help the five out of three people who can't do Maths !
I find it tricky to get the timing right as you can see  but things can only get better !


#42
For this demo of RouletteKeyGold I've used Betfair Casino and I'm playing Roulette Pro by Playtech

I don't get any alerts on H/L, R/B, O/E but I do get alerts on 3 sixains and 18 neighbours on the wheel






#43
I've managed to program in another 37 even chances into RouletteKeyGold
see http://www.winningrouletteplayer.com/evens.html for  details.
I've set the default alert for even chances to 7 so now any time one of the (70+) sets of 18 numbers sleeps more than 7 times you get an automatic alert.
Also if you right click on a number in the top half of the window it shows a corresponding mark on the wheel in the lower half.
Right click on this and the following 18 numbers/chips are displayed.

As usual increasing bets after a loss may be dangerous so it may be better to wait for the next alert then either use level stakes or start a progression.

In the video below I get two alerts in 52 spins. So in effect I'm betting against a run of 9 a probability of approx 1 in 655 ! Now we can watch over 70 sets of even numbers, rather than the usual 6 so such alerts are much more frequent.

A free 14 day/session trial of RouletteKeyGold is available at RouletteKeyGold.com just click on the Download tab,  fill in the form (with a genuine email address!) and you will automatically receive a link to download it.
#44
Online Casinos / Re: "1 cent, no maxbet?!"
September 27, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
I've tried 1cent roulette using RouletteKeyGold successfully last year.
I was able to deposit and withdraw small amounts successfully.
More recently I had an issue when using the Skrill payment system
Hopefully this has been sorted out now.

Video 1 of 2 below

https://youtu.be/6t9nPW5rCcU
#45
Roulette Key Gold / The other 37 even chances
July 23, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
Some subscribers to RKG have reported  considerable success with the new neighbouring dozens systems.

Some wait for any neighbouring dozen to sleep say 11 spins before betting.
Some wait for less then bet on it alongside other sleepers.

If seven show as sleeping this represents at least 18  numbers or additional even chance bets.
It's amazing how often they turn up!

There is no doubt that identifying a complete section of the wheel that is (or isn't) hitting is very useful knowledge.

The latest version is available for download to registered users only.

I've added a right click feature to the numbers, if you right click on any number on the table it
shows you where it is on the wheel a red marker pops up for a second or so.
So if you notice for example that two numbers have slept say 70 times by right clicking on both of them you will see exactly where
they are positioned on the wheel.

I've had to change the usual download address so if you haven't got it
then please register for a free trial by following  the download link at RouletteKeyGold.com or WinningRoulettePlayer.com
(The download page will now change on every release)

Instructions are at http://www.winningrouletteplayer.com/instr230716.html

The latest video is below, I've used an WH RNG table though I believe live is preferable (though much slower)