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tdx

B= black  R = Red

O=Odd    E = even

H=High  L=Low


1  2  3  - Columns 1   2   and 3

What do  the  A  B   C  columns mean ?


Gizmotron

Quote from: tdx on August 09, 2016, 01:24:15 AM
What do  the  A  B   C  columns mean ?


A = 1 to 12
B = 13 to 24
C = 25 to 36
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 09, 2016, 03:02:54 AM
In dozen probability,
The series and single of dozen to repeat,
are around 66% & 33%,

I think,

Thus, if no streaks, hit, after 100bets place,
Thus the losses, will around 33time, for double dozen,
66time will get back capital.

And single dozen, will lose, 66time, and 33time will get back 1u capital.
Thus lose 33u capital.

Just my half cent.
Thanks


That's what I call balance. It takes two wins to balance one loss. But think about this. If you win the first bet but lose the second you have only lost half. So on the third bet, after a second bet loss, if you win, you are back to even. Balance in the double dozen bets are different than the even chance bets.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 09, 2016, 03:29:08 AM
Thus if we bet SINGLE DOZEN,

The bet start with 1u.

1st win=2u. keep the 1u, bet 2 next.

..win=4.

..win=12.

  win=36

  win=108

  win=324=486-1=485u [6th win]

7th win=1458-1u=1457u


The only time I bet single dozens is when there is a very powerful global effect or a perfect occurring pattern.


But you should really look at 2 units on your target dozen and 1 unit on your most likely to hit other dozen type bets. If you hit the side bet with 1 unit on it your break even. If it hits the target you have 3 units won. So the risk is 50/50 with the pay being break even or 3 units risked for 3 units won. But here is the good news. You have a 61% or 64% chance of winning each bet. This too has a balance point. Playing to the balance point is the best way to stay close to even.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 09, 2016, 03:58:34 AM
2u,  on dozen one .
and a unit on a column???



I mean twice as much on dozen one and half of that on dozen two or dozen three.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

from100

Thanks again Gizmo!

Lot to look at today...  ;D

from100

In Croatia we have PSN as 3 days of the weekend...

Gizmotron

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 10, 2016, 12:10:54 AM
My posting gone?


Not gone,  just moved to the "re" thread. Here's the deal, I wanted to focus on the things that I have kept sort of cryptic, yet still here at the bet selection forum. You want to pursue your own interests tangentially off of anything I have to say. I'm not talking here to make people think that progressions are the holy grail. I'm trying to open people's minds to the advantages of trends as seen as a set of tools and skills. So I will continue to attempt to stay on topic. Your information is still here and I won't delete any of it. I just intend to move all your stuff that is declarative. I'm the one that knows what is useful for this thread and will respond to all questions that are about using trends for bet selection choices. Progressions are mindless attempts to enrich a persons life. They only work if the targeting mechanism is based on coincidental advantage. I'm here right now in this thread ready to teach you how to see that advantage. If you want to bloviate for your quest to see only what you want to see then I will continue to segregate your efforts to contribute.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Denzie

Hi Mark ,

Sorry for the late reply. Been busy in RX. Testing some stuff of TurboGenius. I'm gonna read this topic a few times first so I understand what's going on. I'll shoot questions later. Btw it's very annoying people already say it doesn't work b4 getting the full data.  >:(

Much appreciated for your kindness here
Denzie

Gizmotron

Here is a typical example of a 100 spin session involving just the dozens.





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Notice how the singles flow together and the repeats flow together. If you can't see that then you can't read the charts from top to bottom.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

from100

Yes, lots of chops here, only few flocks.

Do you wait for some 3-4 chops to pass and then try attacking?

Gizmotron

Actually I don't necessarily attack at all. People want to know how I win those first bets at 28 & 28. They want to know how I stay close to even. There's just enough edge here in knowing that the singles are dominating at times or repeats are dominating at times. I adjust my attempts to win several of those first bets by taking notice of the dominating conditions, so later I will have them added up into an opportunity wallet. You don't have to get that first win and go right into using it. You can wait to use it at a better time, a time to attack.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Denzie

If you fill those empty spaces with "s" then you see things very clear  :)

Gizmotron

Quote from: Denzie on August 10, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
If you fill those empty spaces with "s" then you see things very clear  :)


When I play live at a casino I take index cards and turn them vertical. I darken every third line with ink. That way I can see the spaces but still tell the difference between sets. I found that placing anything in the not hit (sleeper) positions clutters it to the point that good visual dexterity is hampered to the point of it being so cluttered that seeing the sleepers and the clusters of repeats are almost indeterminable. I do understand that many here have trained themselves to read charts as Matrix style.


I can see patterns, singles, and sleepers in four different sets of dozens in just a few seconds. You must be able to see the trends in just a few seconds. I can keep up with the Rapid Roulette game. It's much easier at a real table with several players making bets. It takes about five seconds to write down 4 X's. After that I look for the changes. I then make my choices and place my bets. When I play I have to get 24 to 26 straight up bets placed before the cut off point occurs.


Can you really do that with a cluttered chart?
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

from100

Thanks Gizmo!

Any chance that we can see the posts that BeatTheWheel posted?
I can't find it anywhere...