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Title: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: ADulay on March 09, 2015, 01:44:31 AM
All,

  Really guys.   Is your ego so weak that the mere mention of a comment or remark that "you" don't like causes you to blow up and start deleting individual messages?

  Although when the topic came up in an Admin meeting, I voted against having a thread starter being able to delete messages, I was outvoted and the ability became a reality.

  So, let's give some thought about removing messages in your own thread.  Unless there is a true reason to remove a message (something not suitable for a civilized human to view/read) then leave it alone.  Thread continuity is important and although we've had several "high profile" members literally take their ball and go home, removing entire threads, we really don't need to behave like that.   In other forums where this has happened, it just looks silly and childish.   Uh, kind of like it did here!

  So, if you have a problem with a message, mark it for the Admin and let them take care of it.

  Or, if a few words really bother you on whatever it is you've written, you may be in the wrong sport of gambling.

  AD (insert some lame video or photo here attempting to impress the unwashed masses)
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: wannawin on March 09, 2015, 02:16:04 AM
I am guilty of having deleted messages on my other threads precisely because I wanted the continuity of the topic.

Maybe the posts be valid but if they have nothing to do with the discussion then the creator of the thread has every right to send a message to remove the erratic post. Well , this is my opinion.

without a doubt I prefer a forum where I can delete over one where I have to swallow everything another person pleases to publish in my topics .  be it relevant with regards to him or not. it is my topic and I like to retain the power to say what course it will take.. Maybe I am a control freak.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: horus on March 09, 2015, 08:52:31 AM
Quote from: ADulay on March 09, 2015, 01:44:31 AM
All,

  Really guys.   Is your ego so weak that the mere mention of a comment or remark that "you" don't like causes you to blow up and start deleting individual messages?

Maybe it's your ego that's so weak ADulay, that even though you got outvoted on the topic, that you still feel the need to go on about it. Do you feel it diminishes your authority that people can be responsible for their own threads?

If someone just wants to make snide remarks in a thread without really making the effort to give any constructive criticism, then I feel it's warranted for the author of that thread to delete the post.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Whiskeypete on March 09, 2015, 01:32:46 PM
If the author of his or her own thread wants to delete messages he or she feels is not adding value to the purpose of the thread, he or she should have that right to do so. I'm not sure what's the big deal with that.  To me, this is not an ego thing, more of polite housekeeping. Sounds like if there was a vote on the topic, this case should be closed.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Sputnik on March 09, 2015, 01:34:24 PM
Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 09, 2015, 01:32:46 PM
If the author of his or her own thread wants to delete messages he or she feels is not adding value to the purpose of the thread, he or she should have that right to do so. I'm not sure what's the big deal with that.  To me, this is not an ego thing, more of polite housekeeping. Sounds like if there was a vote on the topic, this case should be closed.

Whiskeypete ... i agree with you ...

Cheers
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: ADulay on March 09, 2015, 03:29:23 PM
The apparent majority has spoken.

I stand corrected.

My ego is unbruised.

Delete as necessary.

AD
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: NathanDetroit on March 09, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Censorship  in any form is dictatorial. 


Nathan Detroit
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Whiskeypete on March 09, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
It's not censorship if you are the author of the thread.
Now however dictating what is censorship is in fact dictatorship.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: greenguy on March 10, 2015, 05:50:41 AM
I will delete infinity if you're not all very careful!! [smiley]cactus/r000.gif[/smiley]
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: ADulay on March 10, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 09, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
It's not censorship if you are the author of the thread.
Now however dictating what is censorship is in fact dictatorship.

Well, at least I wasn't called a fascist.

I've got that going for me.

AD
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Whiskeypete on March 10, 2015, 07:45:57 PM
ADuly back home in Ireland we have a saying it goes don't mash your potatoes in the same pot as you boil them. You should try to be more like St Vincent and humble yourself. That message wasn't directed to you nye did I call you a facist.
Now I know you may feel the world revolves around you but I'm sure it doesn't. Not everything is about you.
Now I know you like to make yourself seem important. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: ADulay on March 11, 2015, 02:40:23 AM
Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 10, 2015, 07:45:57 PM
ADuly back home in Ireland we have a saying it goes don't mash your potatoes in the same pot as you boil them. You should try to be more like St Vincent and humble yourself. That message wasn't directed to you nye did I call you a facist.
Now I know you may feel the world revolves around you but I'm sure it doesn't. Not everything is about you.
Now I know you like to make yourself seem important. Good luck with that.
Wow.  You really do read way more into a message than I had thought possible.

Please allow me to humble myself before thee.

I don't recall saying you called me a facist.  Please read the message.

Why would I have any need to make myself seem important?  It's a gambling forum.  Who would care?

You have engaged me here and in another forum.  I have tried to be helpful (and humble) but evidently that won't work.

Perhaps you can suggest a plan for me to become more acceptable in your eyes?  This would make me feel so much better in the morning.

Speaking of the morning, I'll be headed to Daytona Bike Week in the morning, so please take your time to consider what it is I need to do to make you happy.   If I can break away from the fun and games with people who don't sit at a computer all day, I'll try to read what you have come up with as a solution.

AD (Your most humble and obedient moderator) 

(http://andy.smugmug.com/photos/i-XpKrrDx/0/M/i-XpKrrDx-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Whiskeypete on March 11, 2015, 03:33:17 AM
Thank you for proving my point.  I have not engaged you at all. Sorry Tarzan, I just don't swing that way. Nice bike though, I'll show you a pic of my can-am in the snow.....certainly that will make me look cool.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Rolex-Watch on March 14, 2015, 09:58:52 PM
While discussing the deletion of messages, it is unfortunate the scam that Mark Teruya was involved in is no longer around.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Mark-Teruya-Maverick-Ultimate-Baccarat/internet/Mark-Teruya-Maverick-Ultimate-Baccarat-A-proven-sociopath-Internet-697663

Also heavily involved, was our own moderator Andy Dulay aka seahog, who from memory was rather scathing on those that complained MAVERICK DID NOT WORK  He tried to claim he was only a gate-keeper because he knows about BB software, hogwash, he was directly involved in promoting people to join the forum at a cost, and then lambasted those that discovered it was all a scam.

Well done ADulay our moderator, who's is well known for promoting various Ellis scams over the years.     

http://excoboard.com/MaverickUltimate/140234/1707894




Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: ADulay on March 15, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Rolex-Watch on March 14, 2015, 09:58:52 PM

Well done ADulay our moderator, who's is well known for promoting various Ellis scams over the years.     
Rolex or whomever you are this month,'

  Please take it up with Victor if you would like me removed as a Moderator on this forum.

  Your constant whining about my gambling life is really getting tiresome.

  The constant corrections to your slanted postings involving my name are no longer worth the time to fix.

  I can only imagine what would get posted if I gave the results of the last two casino sessions.   :applause:

  AD (full time fraudster, malcontent, scammer, swindler, system seller, cheat, liar, rascal and Range Safety Officer)
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Rolex-Watch on March 15, 2015, 10:08:59 PM
My guess is that Victor was totally unaware of your association with Mark Teruya and the insidious promotion of Ellis scams over the years. 

Regarding this link, http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Mark-Teruya-Maverick-Ultimate-Baccarat/internet/Mark-Teruya-Maverick-Ultimate-Baccarat-A-proven-sociopath-Internet-697663
Quote"I wish it was a secret. I would still have my grand.

I signed up for Teruya's "Get Off Your A**" money back guarantee program. He promised to show me how to make my $1,000 sign up fee back in 30 days or give me refund.

He did not show me how to make my money back. He failed to make any money. My emails to him asking for help were unanswered.

He now refuses to give my money back and has banned me from the member's site.

Mark Teruya is a liar and a soulless con man."

Andy Dulay's name should be up along side Teruya, as our moderator answered dealt, with the enquiries and complaints (by blocking people it appears). 

Quote
I was a student in the Maverick Ultimate forum. I was Mark Teryua's first MU customer. I practiced for weeks, I can't remember now specifically how many weeks, maybe 4-5 weeks... My practice was all on Maverick and Maverick Ultimate.  I had very good practiced sessions. I have a baccarat sim that randomly shuffles 8 decks of shoes...I practiced on that. I practiced on old shoes from my local casinos, and I practiced on BetPhoenix.

It came time to try Maverick for real. With Mark's blessing I went to my local casino, (Pala Indian Casino and Bingo) and had a ugly session. Lost 20 x $25 units. Quit and came home. Mark was not pleased.

Mark then said that if I got an account on Bet Phoenix with real money then we could play there. I practiced some more and then we played. We played one shoe that made a few units and then he had to go.

I waited for a few days and admittedly grew impatient and went back and played by myself. I exited a losing shoe at -10 units. Thought what does Mark teach? So I doubled up my unit size for the next shoe and had to exit at a -10 units on that one as well.

When I called him and told him I lost -30 units on Bet Phenox, he went ballistic. He was not happy. And for the first time I saw the anger that is possible coming from Mark.

For the next few weeks, I stayed away for the most part. I posted some on the forum. I tried to get another teacher Andy Dulay to post a losing shoe so that I could see what causes him to lose....he never seems to lose at all.  He refused.  In fact I was ridiculed for my request.  It was always directed back at me...

So after I that I felt real unwelcome at the forum and it was made clear to me that Mark didn't want anybody posting problems or critical questions about members or the Maverick method.

I then decided that maybe the best thing for both Mark and myself and my family, was to quit trying to win at gambling and to go away never to heard from again.

I emailed him and told him of my intentions and while I know he never said his method was a "guaranteed" method that maybe he could show some pity and think about refunding all or part of my membership fee to the maverick forum.

That pissed him off. He was insulted. And since then he has banned me from the forum. Has blocked me from his Skype contact, and took me off his Skype group.

I still have his email and phone number but he won't respond to either of them.

Now that he has banned me from the forum but won't refund my money I feel scammed. It feels like he stole that money from me. Its ok to me if he won't refund my money but not ok that I can't access the forum or play with anyone on Skype.

I'm not the only one who has lost playing Maverick. Another member, Sporeauct tells me he's been losing as well.  Maverick Ultimate has completely confused him...he says he sometimes wins with Maverick but over all has lost thousands playing baccarat over the last 10 years or so.  He wasn't happy with Mark's method.  He also said that Mark was less than polite with him on the phone and on Skype when he had critical questions about Mark's system.

Now as Andy was the gate-keeper, we can assume it was Andy who was banning those that discovered they had been SCAMMED.
Title: Re: Really? Deleting messages?
Post by: Whiskeypete on March 16, 2015, 02:21:41 AM
How is it possible ADulay can be a moderator if he was involved in scamming and cheating people out of their money with the maverick system? Talk about two faced.....now he is pumping for ellis...