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Atlantis,
Sputnik means,

Dozen1 mean single.
dz2 mean series of 2.
dz3 mean series of 3, and more.

Thus B,P,B MEAN dozen1,dz1,dz1.

bb,pp,bb mean dz2,dz2,dz2.

bbb,pppp,bbb,ppppppp mean dz3.dz3,dz3,dz3.

pbp,ppbb,ppppbbbppppp mean 111,22,333.

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Sputnik,
As we already know.

single vs series=50% minus green.

single 50%>series2 50%>series3 50%> series 4 so on.

So some time u win, sometime u lose if u flatbet.
The only way to win, if because march is quite stable in long run.



marinetech

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on February 01, 2016, 03:06:24 PM
Atlantis,
Sputnik means,

Dozen1 mean single.
dz2 mean series of 2.
dz3 mean series of 3, and more.

Thus B,P,B MEAN dozen1,dz1,dz1.

bb,pp,bb mean dz2,dz2,dz2.

bbb,pppp,bbb,ppppppp mean dz3.dz3,dz3,dz3.

pbp,ppbb,ppppbbbppppp mean 111,22,333.

Im a little slow. Can you play this baccarat shoe and show me the results please?

Atlantis

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on February 01, 2016, 03:06:24 PM
Atlantis,
Sputnik means,

Dozen1 mean single.
dz2 mean series of 2.
dz3 mean series of 3, and more.

Thus B,P,B MEAN dozen1,dz1,dz1.

bb,pp,bb mean dz2,dz2,dz2.

bbb,pppp,bbb,ppppppp mean dz3.dz3,dz3,dz3.

pbp,ppbb,ppppbbbppppp mean 111,22,333.

Ah! I see.
Thanks BTW/PA for helping me to understand it!  :)

A.

Dutchie

 Hey Atlantis,enjoy a lot of your expertise over the years. How about your take on  this one,maybe a illustration would be great. :applause:

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Gentlemen,
Single vs series, will have 50/50 minus edge,
just like betting P/B, or any EC game.

Sputnik, try to bet
single, vs series of two, vs series of three.

p/b/p/b=single/single/single/
pp/bb/pp/bb=series2/series2/series2
ppp/bbbb/ppppp=series3/series3/

[three repeat, and/or more=series3]

Sputnik believe that single vs series2 vs series3,
have the same probability as DOZEN bet!
Thus he believe that , betting dozen one two three,
same as betting single vs series2,vs series 3.

Thus he believe...
that the chances of
dozen 1/dozen2/dozen3, permutation=

123=33%, minus edge.

he believe that
the chance of
single/series[123123] permutation,

all three hit twice in six spins,
same as

[dz1,dz2,dz3,dz1,dz2,dz3],permutation
three different dozens, each hit twice,
  in six spins,


Thus he believe when
single 1 and series3 hit,
then the chances of series 2,
will less likely.

eg.
pbpb=single, then

ppp=series 3, then

b=he believe, b will not become series,
thus he will bet that  it will not repeat.

if it repeat, then he bet it will become 'series three'.
as series2 hit will less.
==============================

eg
pbpb/ppp/b

pbpb/single
ppp/ series3.
b-new hit, bet will not series2.
b-oops! become series2, bet will series 3.
p-damn! lose

==============================
pbpb/=single
ppp/ =series3.
b-new hit, bet will not series2.
b-oops! become series2, bet will series 3.
b-win! become series3!

thus single/series3/series3.=no win, no loss,
as he try to catch the SINGLE MARCH!

eg pbpbpbpbpbpb...where the Majority OF PROFIT COME!

thus if single/series3/series2=LOSE!

============

My thinking is,
u will win/ and will lose, if u play flat.
but the chart line of profit/loss, will
oscillating up and down like a stable wave,
thus u need a mild progression,
and variance avoidance strategy to win,
which Sputnik realized, and keep  close to his chest.

Dutchie

 Beat The Wheel,thank you, that is much better. Your examples are very clear. :applause:

Sputnik


Thanks for good explination, i will copy it and post it at rouletteforum cc ...

Cheers

RouletteFan

@ patrick thank for this powerful method really

@beat the wheel thank you for those explainations

horus

I just logged on to say the same as RouletteFan and he beat me to it. :)

Thank you Sputnik for the idea and P.A. for the explanation. It is an interesting concept which I never really thought about before and I think could be developed further.

cheers
If you fail to know, fail to prepare, fail to plan and practice, then know full well that you are knowingly preparing and planning to lose. What you don't know and don't do will be your undoing.

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Quote from: Sputnik on January 07, 2016, 10:36:02 AM
Now we aim to play singles and series of two and series of three and higher.
Series of three and higher is the same group or categorie.

Now if you playing on rolling basis then your first bet is to follow the last hit and when you have two hits you follow the latest two.
When you get three uniq hits you will have three loses and then continue to follow the last two.

You will most of times win within 6 attempts if you play on a rolling basis as 6 alternating with 1 in 3 probability is very rare.
Or you can start playing after three alternating.

If you can come up with other ways to follow the domination, then feel free to create your own triggers.

1) Playing after three alternating
2) Playing on a rolling basis
3) Playing after one combination fall into sleep





Here Sputnik means, that ,
bet single1, series2, series3, won't happen together.

eg.

single1, =1
series2, =2
series3, =3

then he bet that 123,321,231,213...etc, will not happen in a rwo,
and when it happen, u bet THE LAST TWO,
meaning, you bet the last two hit.
eg.
123=three type of single&series2,&series3 had happened.
thus after 1,2,3, u bet the 2, and 3, will continue to hit,
thus u bet that 1 will not happen.


eg.
pbpbpbpb
ppppp
pp=
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???


pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
u see that the last TWO=series 2&series 3.

thus u bet that single 1, will not materialized.

pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
[now u bet that b will not become single,
thus u bet it will repeat.


pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
b...[u bet b, thus u win!]

pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
P...[u bet b, thus u lose!]

Sputnik means,
1]THREE kind of single1,series2,series3, permutation,
will have less percentage of happening,
of course it will happen.

2]THREE kind of single1,series2,series3, permutation,
will have hardly happen TWICE ALTERNATELY.

eg.
123,1,2,3.

1
2
3,[bet 1&2=lose]
1,[bet 3&2=lose]
2,[bet 1&3=lose]
3,[bet 1&2=lose]
==========================
how to bet???
B
B
P
P=SERIES2
B=SINGLE1
P
P..SERIES2..
B=NEW HIT,BET WILL SINGLE,THUS BET P.[PREVIOUS=1&2]
B=LOSE, IT SERIES2 IN MAKING, BET WILL SERIES2, BET P.
B=LOSE, IT  NOW SERIES3, STOP BET.
B
B
P NEW HIT,AS PREVIOUS=SERIES2&3, BET WILL 2.
B=BET P=LOSE, THUS PREVIOUS=1&3, BET won't 2
B=BET P=LOSE.NEXT BET WILL 3, AS PREVIOUS=1&3
B=BET B=WIN...AND SO ON

ALWAY BET 1,2,3 PERMUTATION,won't HIT IN ROW

Sputnik

Thanks kind comments.

I test the second march during 300 trails - the highest bet was 2 units - wow ...
I use this smooth progression 11 - 12 - 23 - and so on ...
Highest win was 6 units once and after that i break even several times and many times up 234 units several times - see video ...
Playing with La Partage Rule ... House Edge 1.35%

https://youtu.be/Sk1auM5CQjg

Sputnik

 But your explination is half true as you bet on a Rolling basis - so you defince variance and flucation being 123.
So is simple when you start betting, you see single you bet single, you see series of two you bet series of two , you see series of Three you bet series of Three.
Now if you lose you first bet once, then you have two events, for example single and series of Three then you bet does two to strike.

So you win when series chop and you win when singles chop and when you get variance between you break even or get fluctation.


Quote
Here Sputnik means, that ,
bet single1, series2, series3, won't happen together.

eg.

single1, =1
series2, =2
series3, =3

then he bet that 123,321,231,213...etc, will not happen in a rwo,
and when it happen, u bet THE LAST TWO,
meaning, you bet the last two hit.
eg.
123=three type of single&series2,&series3 had happened.
thus after 1,2,3, u bet the 2, and 3, will continue to hit,
thus u bet that 1 will not happen.


eg.
pbpbpbpb
ppppp
pp=
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???


pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
u see that the last TWO=series 2&series 3.

thus u bet that single 1, will not materialized.

pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
[now u bet that b will not become single,
thus u bet it will repeat.


pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
b...[u bet b, thus u win!]

pbpbpbpb=singles of 1.
ppppp=series of 3
pp=series of 2.
b....now a NEW HIT, what will u bet???
P...[u bet b, thus u lose!]

Sputnik means,
1]THREE kind of single1,series2,series3, permutation,
will have less percentage of happening,
of course it will happen.

2]THREE kind of single1,series2,series3, permutation,
will have hardly happen TWICE ALTERNATELY.

eg.
123,1,2,3.

1
2
3,[bet 1&2=lose]
1,[bet 3&2=lose]
2,[bet 1&3=lose]
3,[bet 1&2=lose]
==========================
how to bet???
B
B
P
P=SERIES2
B=SINGLE1
P
P..SERIES2..
B=NEW HIT,BET WILL SINGLE,THUS BET P.[PREVIOUS=1&2]
B=LOSE, IT SERIES2 IN MAKING, BET WILL SERIES2, BET P.
B=LOSE, IT  NOW SERIES3, STOP BET.
B
B
P NEW HIT,AS PREVIOUS=SERIES2&3, BET WILL 2.
B=BET P=LOSE, THUS PREVIOUS=1&3, BET won't 2
B=BET P=LOSE.NEXT BET WILL 3, AS PREVIOUS=1&3
B=BET B=WIN...AND SO ON

ALWAY BET 1,2,3 PERMUTATION,won't HIT IN ROW

BEAT-THE-WHEEL






Gentlemen,
and.
Hi Sputnik...
----------------------------
If we aim to bet only single1 and series2.

p
b=bet will single
b=lose=-1, thus bet will series2
b=lose=-1,=-2, become series3.
------------------------------------------------
p
b=bet will single
b=lose=-1, thus bet will series2
p=win=1=0..become series2.

thus we see that when win=0!
when lose=-2!
=============================

If we aim to bet only single1 and series3...


p
b=bet will single
b=lose=-1, thus bet will series3
b=win=1=0...become series3.
----------------------

p
b=bet will single
b=lose=-1, thus bet will series3
p=lose=-1=-2, become series2.

thus we see that when win=0!
when lose=-2!
=============================
But we understand that,
single1=50%>series2>series3&more

after long spins, say hundreds spins...
IN 100 FIGURES,

SINGLE1 WILL AROUND 50.
series2 will around 25
series3,&more will around 25.

thus the single1 form the majority,
betting series2, and /or series3,
just breakeven...the single winning,
or losing/depleting the single run profits!
thus to win we must try to catch the SINGLE march!
And the series2&3, are just trying to outdo each other.

Thus in long term, we will just...breakeven???
with little win, or losses???

Or am I wrong somewhere???

Please make your view.
Thanks.

Atlantis

Hi sputnik and beat the wheel,

To let you know:

In 64 spins the ideal expectation of the doublesides of all 3 EC's (6 EC's) forming a series of 2 ONLY is 24

In 64 spins the ideal expectation of the doublesides of all 3 EC's (6 EC's) forming a series of MORE THAN 2 is 24 too.

In 64 spins then the expectation for unique SINGLES that cannot form part of any of above EC series is therefore: 16.

So in 64 spins the expectation betting ONCE after series of 2 to form 3 - or betting ONCE on the OPPOSITE after a series of 2 is:

Win/Loss RATIO is: 24w / 40L

24 wins out of 64 spins expressed as a percentage = 37.5%

(For block of 128 spins - just double the w/l ratio eg: 48w / 80L; percentage is same for 128 spins = 37.5%)

I just ran 64 random numbers into RX and these are the stats for the 6 EC's:


LOW - 4 hits of series of 2; 5 hits of series of more than 2

HIGH - 3 hits of series of 2; 4 hits of series of more than 2

TOTAL SERIES ON HIGH/LOW IN 64 spins = 16 (7 series of 2; 9 series of more than 2)
16 hits total series for both sides of ONE EC is average %expectation of 16 hits
================================================

RED - 1 hit on series of 2; 6 hits of series of more than 2

BLACK - 5 hits on series of 2; 1 hit on series of more than 2

TOTAL SERIES ON RED BLACK IN 64 spins = 13 (6 series of 2; 7 series of more than 2)
13 hits total series for both sides of ONE EC is slightly under avg %expectation of 16 hits
================================================

ODD - 6 hits on series of 2; 2 hits on series of more than 2

EVEN - 5 hits on series of 2; 2 hits on series of more than 2

TOTAL SERIES ON ODD/EVEN IN 64 spins = 15 (11 series of 2; 4 series of more than 2)
15 hits total series for both sides of ONE EC is just under avg %expectation of 16 hits.


So if you're only going to bet AGAINST a series of 2 forming a series of 3 for ONE BET ONLY you get:

LOW/HIGH=7 hits
RED/BLACK=6 hits
ODD/EVEN=11 hits

Add 'em up and you get - surprise! 24 hits of series of 2 only in 64 spins!! (ideal/avg expectation)


That's 37.5%

These expectations are usually STABLE.

Now if you're only betting ONCE only on series of 2 to become three you get:

LOW/HIGH =9 hits
RED/BLACK =7 hits
ODD/EVEN=4 hits

Add 'em up and you get 22 hits of series of 3 or more! (not quite ideal - but nothing perfect!)

That's 34.375%

Can you see the math symmetry in this?

So you see we can EXPECT 24 hits on each series (series of 2 or 2+) in the frame span of 64 spins!

There will usually be about 16 unique singles in the 64 spins which cannot be made into a series of any of the EC's.
And usually about 48 total series.

24 (series of 2) + 24(series of more than 2) + 16(unique singles) = 64 spins

When there is significantly LESS THAN 24 series in a set of 64 spins then you have a VARIANCE to capitalize on

A.