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[ignatus]

This strategy is based on a very frequent pattern I found on the live-wheel. it's dozens hit in sequence 1,2,3 or 3,2,1. (Note. This is not ordinary dozens on the carpet. It's dozens on the livewheel)

A random session taken from livespin

LWWWWWLWLLWWWWWWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWLWLWWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWLLLWLLWWWWWWWWWWL

As you can see winrate is high. 51/66= 77% winrate.

This is how I play it: Wait for trigger doz 1,2 movement then bet doz 3 for 3 spins OR trigger doz 3,2 then bet doz 1 for 3 spins. (this is one session)

Progression +1 progression after 1 session of 3 spins, +1 bet if next session of 3 spins is lost and so on until hit. Progression reset after 2 sessions in a row is won.

Bankroll needed:  I would say enough money to cover 3 losses in a row (this is a worst case scenario) a LLL-session calculating with 12 chips =doz 1 bet (doz 2 bet is 9 units)

So, to cover a LLL-session 12+12+12+12*2+12*2+12*2+12*3+12*3+12*3=  216 units is needed.


This can be easily played at real casinos, just write this down on a piece of paper (and notice the sequence, and you'll know when to bet) This is based on the Real European Wheel:

Dozen One: 4,6,13,15,17,19,21,25,27,32,34 Split 0/2

Dozen Two: 1,5,8,10,11,16,20,23,24,30,33,36

Dozen Three: 3,7,14,18,22,35 Split 9/12, 26/29, 28/31

or use any of the simple trackers:

[Albalaha]

Ignatus,
         It can be a milestone if what u claim is correct.

[Sputnik]

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Nice LW-Registry ...

[ignatus]

Ignatus,
         It can be a milestone if what u claim is correct.

Yes.    Lowest hitrate I've seen is 63% Still playing a very bad session you'll win more than you lose, that's my experience.

[ignatus]

You can study the "123 Move" from these live spins


This pattern is reccuring like this (see the chart!)


1             
                 2 
                                      3


or                           


                                      3             
                 2
1

[topcat888]

This is how I play it: Wait for trigger doz 1,2 movement then bet doz 3 for 3 spins OR trigger doz 3,2 then bet doz 1 for 3 spins. (this is one session)

ignatus, I don't get your trigger, movement..? what movement..?

[ignatus]

ignatus, I don't get your trigger, movement..? what movement..?

It's when doz 1 is hit then doz 2 hits (in a sequence): This is a trigger for betting dozen 3


or when doz 3, doz 2 hits (in sequence) This is trigger for betting dozen 1

[Gizmotron]

When I first saw this I misunderstood it. I can't get any data from the excel files. If there was data formatted as .txt that would help.

My experience with sleeping dozens is, to say the least, extensive. This system has an obvious death sequence. Whenever dozen 1 or 3 is a long sleeper  you get a bunch of triggers without a chance of a winner.  I have a program that searches for sleeping dozens. It catches everything from 5 to 20 sleeper in a row and reports how many happened in a 300 spin session.

Here is some more truth for you to learn. Those pet dozens created for the inside act no different than the layout dozens or columns. The same number of death sequences are common to all sets of dozens. Randomness treats it all the same because all modern wheels tend to be random. This belief that there is a difference is a magical belief. So I hope this helps you as you discover more truth about this game. If you can program then you can prove it to yourself. The more proof you know, the better off you will be.

[ignatus]

This was an idea from rolf harris: (231-move & 213-move) That is the same pattern basically. (the wheel is round) this pattern should be included in gameplay.


123-move: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLWLWWWWLLWW  Winrate 18/26 = 69%


321-move: WWWWWWLWWLWWWWWWLWWLWWWLLW  winrate 20/26 = 77%


231-move: WWLWWWWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWL  winrate 23/26 = 88%


213-move: LWLWWWWWLWLWWWLWWWLLWWLWLW  winrate 17/26 = 65%




Average winrate: 75%

[ignatus]

When I first saw this I misunderstood it. I can't get any data from the excel files. If there was data formatted as .txt that would help.

My experience with sleeping dozens is, to say the least, extensive. This system has an obvious death sequence. Whenever dozen 1 or 3 is a long sleeper  you get a bunch of triggers without a chance of a winner.  I have a program that searches for sleeping dozens. It catches everything from 5 to 20 sleeper in a row and reports how many happened in a 300 spin session.

Here is some more truth for you to learn. Those pet dozens created for the inside act no different than the layout dozens or columns. The same number of death sequences are common to all sets of dozens. Randomness treats it all the same because all modern wheels tend to be random. This belief that there is a difference is a magical belief. So I hope this helps you as you discover more truth about this game. If you can program then you can prove it to yourself. The more proof you know, the better off you will be.

I'm sorry Gizmotron, but you haven't played this


You haven't you studied this "123-pattern" I proved from the livespins.




So, how can you be so sure about this when you have no idea what it's all about??

[Gizmotron]

I'll wait for you to figure this out. This forum is so loaded with people that are the greatest roulette players in the entire world. I just told you where just one of the major pitfalls are. I could care less if you want me to believe all this. You "winners" have some huge lessons coming your way. When I did all this, I had $5 minimum bets. Back then the lessons where painful. Now days they let you play with penny bets.

Like they say, " no pain, no gain."

[ignatus]

I'll wait for you to figure this out. This forum is so loaded with people that are the greatest roulette players in the entire world. I just told you where just one of the major pitfalls are. I could care less if you want me to believe all this. You "winners" have some huge lessons coming your way. When I did all this, I had $5 minimum bets. Back then the lessons where painful. Now days they let you play with penny bets.

Like they say, " no pain, no gain."

I don't know what i should learn? You learn by study the livespins (and to find a very obvious and reccuring pattern) This i did. Yes dozen sleep? So what, when it hits, it hits. Sleeping dozens do not relate to this system. It's about a very peculiar pattern that repeats itself very frequently, no matter how you play it.


The average hitrate is 75% (Try playing it, and you'll see yourself?)


But this is being tested and tweaked now.

[Gizmotron]

Can't you see that if dozen #3 sleeps for 16 spins in a row, and that you could have as many as three or four triggers, that the third dozen won't appear. All those triggers will lose. That's what sleepers have to do with this.

[ignatus]

Can't you see that if dozen #3 sleeps for 16 spins in a row, and that you could have as many as three or four triggers, that the third dozen won't appear. All those triggers will lose. That's what sleepers have to do with this.

OK you got a point there that could happen, yes.

Still, it doesn't happen often enough that this method would not be successful

[Gizmotron]

I don't want to write a sim for this.