I sure hope so... Otherwise.. #RiggedMuch
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General Discussion / DISCUSSION: Bob the Old Fogey
January 08, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
A topic from VLS in 2009 Started by "Simon":
http://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=8910.0
Quite a while back I had a roulette systems exchange website and was contacted by many players and we exchanged many systems that were on the Net at that time, etc. I always kept two emails from back then (11 years ago) that I found quite interesting and compelling. Unfortunately the two emails are all I could get out of this person (my comments to him are in italics.... you'll notice I tried playing the sympathy card but it didn't help.)
Does anyone know who this guy is or was? We all know I'm sure about the columns with 6 and 6, 8 and 4, and 8 and 4 red and black numbers. Is there really any way to exploit this? Is there any difference between the 0 and 00 layouts (or wheels?) other than the 0's?? What is he referring to?? Here are the two emails.......
At 07:22 PM 5/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Bob. I was just wondering if you could tell me if you bet on the even
factors, the dozens, or the inside.
I bet only columns and, depending on how busy the table is, I change
casinos after an hour or so. After watching me for a while, people keep
trying to engage me in conversation and I just leave to get away from them.
The programmer, that put my method of play through a 1-1/2 million spin
test, quit his programming job and moved permanently to Reno. He plays 6
hours a day, 5 days a week and takes the weekend off. I live 3 hours away
and just bought a new ocean side condo, so I gamble only 3 days a week and
we get together to swap stories.
Being a younger person, he has some wilder stories to tell than I do. I'm
surprised he is keeping our non-disclosure agreement. However he feels the
same as I ... Only scam artists sell an easy way to make a living that
doesn't work!.
If you would concentrate on the 0-00 wheel layout vs. the european layout,
you would have an edge on the casinos. "Nuff Said!"
You have no idea how much time and money I've spent trying to beat Roulette.
Oh yes I do! Been there, done that, got the hat, t-shirt and souvenir
coffee cup. I finally "Cracked" the code in 1993. By that time I was
allready 60 years ols and had wated most of my life following an obsession.
Type at 'Ya later ...
Bob, the old fogey ...
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At 08:39 AM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
Which means you just like the end seat too and could be betting the dozens
as well, or there's something else about the columns I didn't mention....
The end chair is crucial to my method. Without it ... I don't play.
I am very protective of this method. I have seen at least one old timer
and one in his late forties on more than one occasion, observing my play
and writing in a tablet. If the secret to my play was obvious, they would
be playing by now and not watching. Although I don't need their free
lunch, some of the invitations, by both men and woman, and the ultimate
stories I get trying to convince me to share my method are most interesting.
If there was a way I could have had my system tested without giving away
its secret to the programmer ... I would have. I won't even teach it too
my Lady friend who accompanies me on most of my trips. She's 28, I'm 65
and I know her interest in me is not my good looks.
Type at 'Ya later ...
Bob, the old fogey ...
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Maybe someone knows anymore about what happened here.
This was also an interesting reply" I don't know if this helps but on the 00 wheel, columns 1&2 and 1&3 cover large sectors on each side of the wheel. So for example, if there was some kind of dealer signature ie. spinning to alternate sides, you could easily exploit this without clambering allover the table. note each side includes either 0 or 00 in other words the line of symmetry is not thru the zeros."
Also this one "Either way, if the Euro wheel is of perfect design, and the American is flawed, it stands to reason that there must be tangible differences that can be exploited. This is one of the more interesting roulette "debates" that appear here from time to time.
Add: if Bob's method was programmed, then his betting must have been instigated by triggers and followed rules. So it's mechanical, or at least partially mechanical."
Look at the big areas
http://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=8910.0
Quite a while back I had a roulette systems exchange website and was contacted by many players and we exchanged many systems that were on the Net at that time, etc. I always kept two emails from back then (11 years ago) that I found quite interesting and compelling. Unfortunately the two emails are all I could get out of this person (my comments to him are in italics.... you'll notice I tried playing the sympathy card but it didn't help.)
Does anyone know who this guy is or was? We all know I'm sure about the columns with 6 and 6, 8 and 4, and 8 and 4 red and black numbers. Is there really any way to exploit this? Is there any difference between the 0 and 00 layouts (or wheels?) other than the 0's?? What is he referring to?? Here are the two emails.......
At 07:22 PM 5/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Bob. I was just wondering if you could tell me if you bet on the even
factors, the dozens, or the inside.
I bet only columns and, depending on how busy the table is, I change
casinos after an hour or so. After watching me for a while, people keep
trying to engage me in conversation and I just leave to get away from them.
The programmer, that put my method of play through a 1-1/2 million spin
test, quit his programming job and moved permanently to Reno. He plays 6
hours a day, 5 days a week and takes the weekend off. I live 3 hours away
and just bought a new ocean side condo, so I gamble only 3 days a week and
we get together to swap stories.
Being a younger person, he has some wilder stories to tell than I do. I'm
surprised he is keeping our non-disclosure agreement. However he feels the
same as I ... Only scam artists sell an easy way to make a living that
doesn't work!.
If you would concentrate on the 0-00 wheel layout vs. the european layout,
you would have an edge on the casinos. "Nuff Said!"
You have no idea how much time and money I've spent trying to beat Roulette.
Oh yes I do! Been there, done that, got the hat, t-shirt and souvenir
coffee cup. I finally "Cracked" the code in 1993. By that time I was
allready 60 years ols and had wated most of my life following an obsession.
Type at 'Ya later ...
Bob, the old fogey ...
....................................................................
At 08:39 AM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
Which means you just like the end seat too and could be betting the dozens
as well, or there's something else about the columns I didn't mention....
The end chair is crucial to my method. Without it ... I don't play.
I am very protective of this method. I have seen at least one old timer
and one in his late forties on more than one occasion, observing my play
and writing in a tablet. If the secret to my play was obvious, they would
be playing by now and not watching. Although I don't need their free
lunch, some of the invitations, by both men and woman, and the ultimate
stories I get trying to convince me to share my method are most interesting.
If there was a way I could have had my system tested without giving away
its secret to the programmer ... I would have. I won't even teach it too
my Lady friend who accompanies me on most of my trips. She's 28, I'm 65
and I know her interest in me is not my good looks.
Type at 'Ya later ...
Bob, the old fogey ...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe someone knows anymore about what happened here.
This was also an interesting reply" I don't know if this helps but on the 00 wheel, columns 1&2 and 1&3 cover large sectors on each side of the wheel. So for example, if there was some kind of dealer signature ie. spinning to alternate sides, you could easily exploit this without clambering allover the table. note each side includes either 0 or 00 in other words the line of symmetry is not thru the zeros."
Also this one "Either way, if the Euro wheel is of perfect design, and the American is flawed, it stands to reason that there must be tangible differences that can be exploited. This is one of the more interesting roulette "debates" that appear here from time to time.
Add: if Bob's method was programmed, then his betting must have been instigated by triggers and followed rules. So it's mechanical, or at least partially mechanical."
Look at the big areas
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