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Started by Garfield, December 21, 2015, 01:13:12 PM

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Garfield

Hi everybody,

Based on my experience, regarding of what kind of BS we choose, sometime it can produce two different result. I mean, in some shoe, it could produce WWLLLWWWLLLLWWLLWWLLLWWW and so on where we could have a streak of winning and vice versa.

But sometime it could produce WLLWLWLWWLLWLLWLW and so on, where our win/lose is not that much.

I believed with the same BS we better have 2 MM and adjust it according to what shoe we are dealing with.

Any comment? This is just a thought from newbie player on this baccarat kingdom. :-[
You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

Wewin2222

Hi Garfield, I noticed right away in your first analogy that you did not have any chop, also known as 1 & Break. You could have won several big hands if you wagered on the shoe not doing any singles. I have seen shoes like this which will do this the whole shoe but more often it will happen for half of the shoe. If it's weak or not happening wager against it until it happens. That's only if your W / L is in reference to Bank or Player instead of a MM strategy.

Wewin2222

Garfield

Nope, WeWin. That is the W/L registry. I didn''t mention the BS, isn'it ? :no:

I hope you can share your MM if you have :

1. The amount of WIAR and LIAR around 2,3,4,5
2. The amount of WIAR and LIAR around 1-2 only

I believed they should be approach with different MM style.

Thx,
You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

Wewin2222

I stand corrected, thanks Garfield. Sometimes I get off track when the gears are turning in my mind. Sorry, I'll read more careful next time.....

soxfan

I said it again and I'll say before that different bs styles will offer up different w/l cluster/registry. So, you gotta match up the right mm/progressions scheme with the certain bs styles as it ain't a one size fit all proposition, hey hey.

Jimske

Quote from: Garfield on December 21, 2015, 01:13:12 PM
Hi everybody,

Based on my experience, regarding of what kind of BS we choose, sometime it can produce two different result. I mean, in some shoe, it could produce WWLLLWWWLLLLWWLLWWLLLWWW and so on where we could have a streak of winning and vice versa.

But sometime it could produce WLLWLWLWWLLWLLWLW and so on, where our win/lose is not that much.

I believed with the same BS we better have 2 MM and adjust it according to what shoe we are dealing with.

Any comment? This is just a thought from newbie player on this baccarat kingdom. :-[
Not a bad concept.  I do that.  I change my bet placement and my betting strategy based on the shoe bias.  That's how I get to bet so many hands.  Still a trend game.

Each bet placement will, as you point out, produce different WL patterns.  If you're going to use more than one you should be very familiar with their nemesis.

Jimske

Quote from: soxfan on December 22, 2015, 01:53:20 AM
I said it again and I'll say before that different bs styles will offer up different w/l cluster/registry. So, you gotta match up the right mm/progressions scheme with the certain bs styles as it ain't a one size fit all proposition, hey hey.
yup.  And there is no perfect bet selection.  Start chasing that and you'll be going down a never ending rabbit hole.

Garfield

Quote from: soxfan on December 22, 2015, 01:53:20 AM
I said it again and I'll say before that different bs styles will offer up different w/l cluster/registry. So, you gotta match up the right mm/progressions scheme with the certain bs styles as it ain't a one size fit all proposition, hey hey.

So you suggest changing the BS rather than the MM ? 2 different approach with "one fit for all" MM?

I found it easier to adjust the MM than the BS. Interesting opinion still. Thank you
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vo rogue

Hi soxfan ,i try to get a couple of parlays per shoe. I use a 12 step prog. What bet sel, Do you recommend ?.
Thanks

Garfield

Quote from: vo rogue on December 22, 2015, 08:47:53 AM
Hi soxfan ,i try to get a couple of parlays per shoe. I use a 12 step prog. What bet sel, Do you recommend ?.
Thanks

I avoid 8+ LIAR. Period. I tried to keep my LIAR as low as possible. :nod:
You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

Garfield

Share my plays tonight. OL casino with live dealer. Pre-shuffled plus washing by the dealer before going into shoe.

6 hours of play. 7 shoes.

1st shoe. 55 hands. W:25 L:18  Wiar :7. Liar :3. BR :+100%
2nd shoe.53 hands. W:23.L:20. Wiar :9 and 5. Liar :5. BR : +100%
3rd shoe. 34 hands. W:7. L:13.  Wiar :0. Liar : 3. BR : even
4th shoe. 64 hands. W:13. L:22. Wiar :4. Liar : 9. BR : -20%
5th shoe. 42 hands. W:20. L:27  Wiar: 2. Liar : 3. BR : +30%
6th shoe. 44 hands. W:18. L:25. Wiar : 2. Liar : 5. BR :+40%
7th shoe. 32 hands. W: 12. L:16. Wiar : 2. Liar :4. BR :+25%

1st and 2nd shoe was rather easy. Because beginning of play, play conservative. Parlay on winning.

The rest was hard. Especially shoe 5,6,7. No matter what couldn't get the 3rd WIAR. In the 5th shoe it happened 6 times. So after 2 win i skip the next bet and play virtual. After a lost, place bet again.

What I want to share is this. When I found it is hard to get 3 WIAR, I reduce my unit after 2 win. Prepare for the lost. After lost, sometimes I doubled, sometimes I up a little, depending of how confidence I was with my BS. I wouldn't dare to use negative progression too much.

But in 1st and 2nd shoe, I use negative progression more than the positive ones. Because I notice my W/L registry is good.

But I felt like I was lucky tonight. Even I was losing more than winning, still manage to add the BR.

You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.

Garfield

My buy in BR was 20 units. The shoe 6 and 7 I reduced my goal because headache  :-\, sleepy :stress: and because of the unit become higher, shaked a little bit. :'(
You will never know. Not now, not in this life. You aren't that lucky.