1-27-19 2 Shoes to Discuss

alrelax · January 28, 2019, 05:57:20 AM

First shoe was Banker strong and great trends and events:

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Second shoe was Player strong and super great trend and events, however, almost everyone got wiped out and wiped out losing lots of money they kept pouring into with the hopes to change the shoe. Real sad. They just did not believe in the camaraderie and overpowering the shoe and using some team work and let's smack the casino to everyone's advantage.

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The shoe finished out after hand 52 as shown with the following, in this order of hands:

4 Players
1 Banker
4 Players
3 Bankers
3 Players. After that is was hand 61.

Then a nasty ending to anything strong. Hand 61 on in this order of hands:

5 or 6 alternating chops (I can not read my notes clearly)
a double back to back tie
3 Players
2 Bankers
1 Player
3 Bankers

Players=47
Bankers=30

A complete reversal of the previous shoe with the numbers almost exactly, LOL.

alrelax · January 28, 2019, 06:11:22 AM

I will write the details tomorrow on these shoes. Too tired, just got home and it is after midnight. Need to get up early.

Jimske · January 28, 2019, 04:09:17 PM

Looking forward to it! One thing I can't figure is how people that you play with continue betting anti which they must be betting to get wiped out. I don't see this. I do see a lot of sitters when the long runs hit but few who continue. Nothing wrong with betting anti in choppy shoe. Even making a few bets for the longer runs to stop. But after losing a couple anti got to either sit it out or try 1 bet on other side.

For fun and got nothing much to do today. Flat bet two of my fav placements and then added Assym Bac Strat #1 w/ 1-2 NP (the way I understand it) Net wins.

SFC .8 8.55
L4 4.75 13.5
BAC#1 7.15 2.55 (if flat then 4u and 1u respectively)

Doesn't mean these methods win ITLR.

J

alrelax · January 28, 2019, 06:24:16 PM

I will tonight, we are currently in -20 to -40 and greater wind chill factors today, everything breaking down with trucks and equipment i am still responsible for. LOL.

I have points to bring out about those shoes.

Jimske · January 28, 2019, 08:52:27 PM

Quote from: Jimske on January 28, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
Thought i'd add Birthday Paradox (BDAY PAR) to the mix since it has some calculable odds.

SFC .8 8.55
L4 4.75 13.5
BAC#1 7.15 2.55 (if flat then 4u and 1u respectively)
BDAY PARA 4 1

Doesn't mean these methods win ITLR.

J

alrelax · February 01, 2019, 08:22:14 PM

Will get back to this soon, weather played a key role in keeping me away from the computer and office duty all week, with the dangerously cold temps here in the Midwest.

Just a note, I have not forgotten. Trying to thaw out now.

alrelax · February 02, 2019, 09:16:12 AM

Another super Bead Plate to follow, some of the people smacked the hell out of the house and the rest of them lost their rear-ends big time. But there were about 20 huge wagers that made a few people well over $100,000.

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alrelax · February 02, 2019, 04:22:58 PM

The shoe last night a group of us all looked at each other and verbally and physically put the camaraderie into play and stuck to the first two rows on the Bead Plate.

I have been saying the Bead Plate is the strongest and most, hold true, scoring of the board or writing on the card. When it is strong or redundant of anything, the lines and the patterns within the Bead Plate will replicate easy or easier to win wagers than most anything else within baccarat, IMO and that of many other people.

Look at the 1st and the 2nd lines on the Bead Plate:

The first line, 2 X 2 Players max and 2 X 2 Bankers max, straight across.

The second line, 12 Bankers (there was one more after I took the picture in the last few hands of the shoe), with only one player on the line.

Several of us got together, talked about it after the first few vertical lines formed and we committed to wagering for the repeats on these two lines.

I will stress, this is a proper road to follow if you can control yourself, (REPEAT--CONTROL YOURSELF), do not chase more than 2 or 3 things on the Bead Plate, 1 or 2 is better most times.

Leander · February 04, 2019, 12:09:24 AM

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Hello All

This is my first post . I have really enjoyed "lurking" here for the last year or so and finally stopped procrastinating and signed up .

The contributions you all make can be very thought provoking .

For the record I live in Sydney , Australia and enjoy Baccaarat and from time to time Roulette and Sic Bo . Only ECs with SicBo .

I am hoping some one can enlighten me about the use of the Bead Plate . I can understand how it's constructed but don't know the theory behind how players use it to make decisions . Is it considered better than using the Long Road ?

Thanks in advance for your ideas and thoughts .

Jimske · February 20, 2019, 04:46:51 PM

Quote from: Jimske on January 28, 2019, 04:09:17 PM

For fun and got nothing much to do today. Flat bet two of my fav placements and then added Assym Bac Strat #1 w/ 1-2 NP (the way I understand it) Net wins.

SFC .8 8.55
L4 4.75 13.5
BAC#1 7.15 2.55 (if flat then 4u and 1u respectively)

Doesn't mean these methods win ITLR.

Lots of players like to bet on common patterns to continue to a profitable length. 121212 22222 ppppp BBBBBB maybe stuff like 3131 etcetera. We've all seen these patterns go on forever at times. But in most shoes these patterns fizzle and we just lost one of the bigger bets.

From the shoe Al posted it seems that if guys correctly jumped on the common patterns they would have done really well as he mentioned. So we'll wait and see how he explains the turning points.

But most shoes are "un-patterned." And then it came to me. Exploit un-patterned shoes and patterned shoes with proper switches.

Here are results of both shoes flat bet using that mechanical placement.

Shoe 1: +10 units LLWWLWWLLLWWWWLWWWWLWLWWWWWLLWWWWWLWWWLLLLLWLWWLLLLWLLWWWLLWWWLLWW

Shoe 2: +24 units LWLLWWLWWWWLWWWWLWLWLWWWWWWWLLWLWWWWWWWWLWLLLWWWWLWWWLLLWLLWWWWWLWLWWWWL

My 50 test shoes not done but so far doing really well. The losers are less than 6 units flat and winners in the teens. When testing I always note that any big losers have to be offset by similar or better big winners. If not them the method NG. Plus I think you got to win at least 75% of shoes to make it worhwhile.

Of course I don't flat bet so as long as the LIAR arre generally 5 or less shouln't be a problem to overcome drawdowns. Those shoes above picked up 56 and 83 units net using my goto progression.

Maybe more later.

J

alrelax · March 01, 2019, 05:45:03 PM

Lots of players like to bet on common patterns to continue to a profitable length. 121212 22222 ppppp BBBBBB maybe stuff like 3131 etcetera. We've all seen these patterns go on forever at times. But in most shoes these patterns fizzle and we just lost one of the bigger bets.

From the shoe Al posted it seems that if guys correctly jumped on the common patterns they would have done really well as he mentioned. So we'll wait and see how he explains the turning points.

I wrote 2 responses to this or that includes my comments here. It is not as easy as some think it is to explain or to define. But I have tried.

https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/mathematical-statistical-probability-of-baccarat-reality/

https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/be-careful-what-you-believe-and-open-your-eyes-sections-turning-points-part-1/

P.S. I have 2 more shoes with 3 shots from last night, regarding Sections and Turning Points. I took them with this in mind. I will post later tonight.