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Title: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 14, 2022, 01:38:13 PM
Second shoe the other night.  Fortune 7s hands 4 and 7. 

Hand 4 players had 0 and bankers had a 6.  Players third card was a 6.  Bankers drew an Ace for the F7 win.

Hand 7 players had a 3 and bankers had 0.  Players drew a 7 reducing them to 0.  Table yelling for another 7.  7 comes out for another F7 win along with a dragon bonus win of 6:1. 

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Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2022, 02:44:54 PM
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Think hard about flat betting banker only will make you rich!

There are so many 'real' ways to make great profits at B&M baccarat than believing drama kings and queens on the internet!!
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2022, 02:54:55 PM
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It's called equaling out!  Classic example.  Happens most of the time, especially from the first 1/3 to 2/3rds of the shoes!
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2022, 03:01:02 PM
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Here is another one.  Happens a lot more than you think, especially if your only experience is WoV baccarat simulation RCG, random card generation, etc!
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 15, 2022, 03:05:45 PM
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Like I said, happens with frequency, maybe not every other shoes, but it occurs tremendously greater than only on 'rare' occasions.
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on July 16, 2022, 03:15:25 PM
Thx alrelax for toteB pics.
I think the P Dom 39-14 shoe would have been pounced on by most at the table. Q : How did u wager this shoe?

Re: 20-20 shoe--I would have done well. However, I likely wouldn't have stayed on that P-run with my pressed up wager to the end. I likely would have looked to my left and saw the B-runs length and at approx the 6th P win, would have most likely reduced my max bet to 1.0 Base Unit,   

or (a mild probability that I would have reduced to): 50% of my max after the 6thPwin, then reduced to 33% of my max, then 25% of my max,..etc to end, and finished out the P streak.

A reduction to 1.0 BU would have been a mistake on my part in this case. However, as most will agree it is really easy to review ex post facto, and say I woulda,coulda,shoulda done this or that,..etc. I also remind myself of all the times I have chosen  not to press like Im going to see a run-to-infinity and the streak ends on the next hand, or one hand later.
     Q:How did you wager this shoe?

Thx in advance,


Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on July 19, 2022, 07:02:05 PM
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Think!  Anything and Everything happens more so than statistical results being counted on.
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 01, 2022, 01:40:08 PM
Here you go, last night.

Clumping up with huge advantage to those that believe in what I have been writing about!

One shoe.  I didn't start until half way.  Hands 35-42 were ALL natural 8s, every single one.  Perfect chop.  Most were one side 7 with a Nat 8 opposite. 

Then where you see those 6 Bankers we had a back to back Fortune 7.  First one was zero for banker and a 7 and 3 for players.  Players drew a face card and banker flopped a 7.  So F7 PLUS bonus if you had it of 6 to 1. 

Those 2 naturals following for players were a natural 9 against a bankers natural 8.  And a natural 8 against a bankers 7.  The next 4 repeating bankers were nice also.  Two included bonus wagers for a bankers 7 to a players three card zero.  And then a bankers three card 8 to another players zero.  6 to 2 and 10 to 1 respectfully. 

Shoe was continually EQUALLING OUT!! 

Hand 76 a 3 card banker 9 to a beautiful player's 0!  Bonus 30 to 1!  See picture,

Hand 77 was a nice bonus also.  A banker three card 8 to player's zero.  Bonus 20 to 1!



Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 05, 2022, 12:46:02 AM
A couple of nights ago, a fantastic quick win with 1.5 shoes played.  Quadrupled the buy-in.

Lots of 3 card 7s and 8s over the opposite side of 0. 

Caught 5 ties with less than 15 total wagers for them.

Caught all 4 of the Fortune 7s.  Hands 26-28-30-61.

Please note the astronomical 'skip fortune 7s' 3 Xs F7s!  It was happening and when it's happening you wager table max on it.  Plus 2 of those Fortune 7s were over a players total of 0.  So Dragon Bonus of 6 to 1 as well! 





Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on September 05, 2022, 04:57:27 AM
Congrats/great win alrelax

"...Quadrupled the buy-in.

Lots of 3 card 7s and 8s over the opposite side of 0.

Caught 5 ties with less than 15 total wagers for them.  ..."


    To say u pounced on it would be an understatement.

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 09, 2022, 02:40:17 PM
Will post pictures later tonight.  Last night 7 (Seven!) Fortune 7s in one shoe.  Lots of bonuses including a 3 card dragon 9 banker and player had 0.  Great shoe!
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 12, 2022, 12:54:39 PM
Picture #1, #2, #3, #4, & #5.

Again, live B&M casino, actual shuffle with a mini hand shuffle at request, NOT stadium. 

(Will post the comments, thought process and details tonight)
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 12, 2022, 02:20:48 PM
The above shoe with 7 Fortune 7's, I was able to multiply my buy in by 11.5 times!  Played the one shoe shown and a little bit of the subsequent one and walked away and cashed out. 
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on September 12, 2022, 02:21:17 PM
Thanks as always.

Q: U say  "...with a mini hand shuffle at request.."

    Why?
    Do most of your casinos grant this request?

Thx in advance,
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 12, 2022, 02:23:22 PM
QuoteThanks as always.

Q: U say  "...with a mini hand shuffle at request.."

    Why?
    Do most of your casinos grant this request?

Thx in advance,

Like women, some do and some don't.  The more serious players feel better.
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on September 13, 2022, 03:59:26 AM
re: post #14

Thx for prompt reply.
I've had a few dealers make the offer: "Does anyone want a quick hand shuffle,...etc.?"
So, my thinking has always been if they willingly offer then it likely doesn't help the players.

Personally, I don't see any benefit as the cut should alleviate any concerns. Maybe there is something Im not considering.

Continued Success,
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 21, 2022, 02:49:06 AM
Here is another one from the other night. 

4 Fortune 7s.  Hands 4-23-31 and 38.

Hands 39 AND hand 40 were baby-to-back 3 card 9s for the bankers and 3 card 0s for the players. 

Please note the pic of the table is hand 39.  Most all toned down on their banker bets because most people believe that the players prevail in the next hand after the F7 appears.  I stayed wagering 500.00 (450.00 green/50.00 red) and 30.00 on the dragon bonus (payout is 900.00 for the bonus alone). 

Like I always gave said, wager with the shoe and it's presentments rather than with what you desire. 

Also note, players only made 1s and 2s for better than half the shoe.  Believe me, most if the people kept reciting how the players side did just that and would not continue so.  Again, what they desire and NOT what is happening.

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 21, 2022, 03:03:32 AM
Shoe from tonight.

Dead equal at the end.  Best 'workable clue' in the game !!!!

5 Absolutely beautiful and adorable Fortune 7s.  Hands 18-22-33-34 and 50.  Back-to-Back F7s and so many did not wager because they just have it all figured out what the shoe can and cannot do, lol!

Please Note: Shown on board is 73 hands the first 6 fell off.  Hand 1 was a tie.  Hand 2 was a player.  Hands 3, 4, 5 and 6 were bankers.

Note:  Only 3 ties until approximately half way through the shoe.  Very important!

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on September 21, 2022, 05:28:14 AM
Thx alrelax--Well done.
I really like shoes such as the one in #16. Only two ties through hand 29 or so. Both sides holding on a consistent basis. P turned at 2iar for a six streak,...etc.


Continued success,
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on September 21, 2022, 10:26:16 AM
QuoteThx alrelax--Well done.
I really like shoes such as the one in #16. Only two ties through hand 29 or so. Both sides holding on a consistent basis. P turned at 2iar for a six streak,...etc.


Continued success,

99% of the key to thousands of dollars of profit in the shoe is following what it is being  presented and not attempting to change it.

Sounds simple, yet so many make it complicated.

I watch people I have known for years win all kinds of great profit in half a shoe and then the remainder of the shoe or the following shoe or shoes, they give it back and lose 5 to 10 times additional buy-ins attempting to change what each shoe is presenting.

The story goes on.........however most holds true and the story does not change.
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on October 01, 2022, 11:04:40 PM
Here you'll go!  Anything and everything can and will happen.

As well, a classic example of 0-1-2-3 ties I have written about and stressed. 

Also, you don't have to plan on it, think it's going to happen or play for it, but when it does happen-POUNCE-POUNCE-POUNCE AND POUNCE AS HARD AND HEAVY AS YOU CAN!


Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on October 01, 2022, 11:19:18 PM
Equalization can be exploited in this shoe.

Of course, as well, the build up and the Bankers streak of 14 followed by strong Players.

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: AsymBacGuy on October 02, 2022, 08:20:11 PM
Jackpot shoes not to be missed  :thumbsup:

as.
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on November 07, 2022, 04:33:11 AM
Thx for TReport.  Great W and ROI.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on February 20, 2023, 04:50:27 PM
Shoe from over the weekend.  The first section was gorgeous for repeaters.  Then classic chop. 

Hard as hell to take pictures at this property.  Got a few from different angles, a little blurred but blow them up and you can see the board.

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on June 24, 2023, 11:57:27 AM
New Shoes.  From Wednesday, Thursday and Friday evenings.

First a previous quote of mine.  "99% of the key to thousands of dollars of profit in the shoe is following what it is being  presented and not attempting to change it". 

1). Fortune 7s at hands 9-20-25.  Low ties 0123.

2). Fortune 7s at hands 6-7-28-30-41-56.  Note.  Te first 4 hands are wiped off the beginning, you can see them in the bead plate. 

3). Fortune 7s at hands 17-29.

4). Fortune 7s at hands 60-76.  Hand 76 not shown. Very unique shoe with the first 44 hands of strong players and 12 ties.  Then classic banker equalization and zero ties. 

5.  Fortune 7s at hands 23-27-37.






**(Will comment later with the details of each shoe)**
Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: KungFuBac on June 25, 2023, 06:21:04 PM
Thx for posting.
Alrelax--Did u wager these patterns? bonus bets? If so which ones? ROI??

I always tell my Bac Comrades: "The second-best thing to a big win for me is a big win for thee."

So, let's hear about it when u get a chance.

I would have likely picked up several IAR Ws on the repeaters as well as the chop. Im optimistic I would have been able to splice together a 3-5 iar wins clump. Who knows.

I likely would not have profited much (if any) from the abundance of F7s. Mainly because A)I seldom ever see a >=2 F7 in my typical 6-deck shoes, and B) I seldom wager for an F7 et al bonus bets.

I typically don't make very many bonus bets per shoe. However, I will occasionally make a couple attempts if I see a perceived trigger. Occasionally I do a partial hedge (f7) if my main wager is pressed extremely high for the first time(i.e., If I win this bet Im up >=75% of buyin or if I lose then my BI is severely injured or crippled),...etc.




Continued Success To All,

Title: Re: Actual Shoes of Baccarat in B&M Casinos
Post by: alrelax on June 25, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
I will comment on the 5 shoes above from the past few days.

Here is one and the only one I played last night.  It was a fantastic shoe with the way the continuous flow was being presented.

Fortune 7s at hands 4-57-59.  (Picture shows up to hand 65, all these shoes are 8 deck shoes and have between 75 to 83 hands generally). 

I was in seat 5 and I snapped a quick picture of a 3 card 9-0 Dragon Bonus where I had a $350.00 banker wager and a $30.00 side wager for the bonus.  (3 card 9-0 pays 30:1, $900.00). There were two within this shoe 9-0s)


(Will run down the details later or tomorrow when I get some time).