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Title: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 21, 2018, 06:40:18 PM
So, I've had just about all I can take from these math wizards. It's time to teach everyone and to let the chips fall where they may in the world.


This is the home of all my secrets. It's always been at the betselection.cc forum. So this is where I will tell all. If a person wants to ridicule and insult anyone in this thread I will delete their posts. No apologizes. Keep it civil or I will remove the comment. You can be as PC incorrect as you can get away with. I don't care. But personal attacks with exceptions to posturing ones own intelligence versus any others will be squashed.


Everyone knows that I changed tactics 4 months ago or so. I have suggested many variations on the same theme. I opened my school to explore these things. I spent a lot of time watching others perfect a skill. That skill is trend and pattern recognition and MM tactics that fit it. Two weeks ago I discovered, at the suggestion of another, this video that explains an MM tactic based on ranges formed by moving trends in the stock market:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRCtBRsLPmk&feature=youtu.be  ; 17 minutes


From that I formed a method to flip the concept and play Roulette like a professional stock player. The video caused me to step back and see an even bigger picture. I'm going to spell out that picture in detail. No hints anymore. This is how anyone can beat all the table games at the casino if they are based on chance.


I suggest to you that you watch the video so that you can know what I'm talking about. He explains why 90% of stock traders lose money. And that also explains why 99% of gamblers lose as well. The so called house advantage applies to any single bet but does not explain the earnings from gamblers in their corporate bottom line's. This video perpetuates that lie and just accepts it as fact. It is one of the greatest lies in history. All it is is an excuse to lose for those without a plan. People expect to lose so they go ahead and lose. They walk in the door expecting to lose. It's a wonderful scam.


The author of the video explains that the house expects to make 5.4% off of Roulette. But the corporate earnings yearly reports shows that most casinos make a whopping 14% or more each year from Roulette. Why the discrepancy? Haven't they heard of the absolute probability of the mathematics community? They don't care that people pay them more than they should I guess. Funny that...


I will teach everyone how to see favorable conditions. It's the same thing as the professional stock trader.


Let me know if you have seen the video and have questions.


Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: esoito on October 21, 2018, 11:41:00 PM
He's an excellent communicator, and I enjoyed his enthusiasm.

No questions from me. Yet.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Wasn't that great. The guy just opened my eyes. I was almost there but he took me the rest of the way.


So, as I said, I took this trading method of seeking ranges that are historically working at the time and doing what traders do, if they are smart like this guy that is.


So just about everyone here knows that I used three net wins and out to make a single session worth while for me. I even tried some of John Patrick's "2, 1, 2" positive progressions to make it more interesting. This guy uses flat betting and beating the ranges by entering a trade early as it recovers and before it goes into resistance. He stays inside the already performing waves that are spelled out as ranges. He knows that there is no prediction. He expects to lose as much as 50% of the time. But he also gives himself an edge that comes form the performance of the moving averages. They are trends. The trends that he seeks tend to repeat in a pattern for him. Roulette does that too if you are trained to see characteristics and their moving averages also. You will lose 50% of the time too. But you will also have an edge because you will have win streaks that pay off at least twice as much as each lost attempt. When you do have some of the losses it will be at times when it costs you nothing.


This is possible because on a Roulette table you can use no-valued virtual bets that keep you in the bet selection process but have no impact as a cause for a declining bankroll. You must ride out the temporary downward trends by selling stocks in time. But you can keep charting the waves without succumbing to the results of continuous flat betting in Roulette. Getting out early in the stock market is the same as switching to a virtual bet. You wait for the next trend in both cases.


So the skill is having a playing plan and also having a knowledgeable skill at exploiting trends and patterns.



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
So, moving on. In the video you will learn the secrets to a winning strategy with key points made starting at minute 5:50 thru 7:00 and on to 8:20.

Fear. He says that most uninformed traders, the great 90% of the unwashed that is, are making investments with scared money. Now this topic has been discussed on gambling forums for decades. But nobody has put together all the little things that make up a kind of rules to win by if you bet on trends. A set of method recommendations can be programmed and simulated for testing if someone wants to put that much work into it. They do that much work in the stock market. And they charge up the wing-wang to gain access to it too.

He states that most people sell lower than they should when they are winning and hang on to a losing stock well past a logical point while it keeps descending. Gamblers do the same things because they don't have a plan.

Anyone can create telemetry on spin results that shows trends. I do it on index cards while playing live at a casino. I can see the ranges. I cans see the swarms of single characteristics. I can see "domination" where at least one next continuation is producing one win after a grouping changes sets. A grouping would be the 18 black combined with the 18 red. Each 18 numbers are sets of the main grouping. By watching these sets I can see patterns that tend to repeat. Sometimes it is that the trend is that when black hits, it only hits once before going back to more reds. And when reds hit they always hit as two or more hits. That kind of a bigger picture trend is good enough to win one time. There is no guarantee that it will win. There is no prediction that it will win. It only takes one bet to see if it will win, thus confirming that the trend is still continuing or not.

To some that simple method or logic is not valid. All it is is guessing. You might as well just place a guess without tracking past results. But if you just select bets (investments) randomly you won't have a bet selection process that can target 10 reds in a row. We all know that they occur. The random selection process will miss that opportunity. Now a random selection method will produce 10 wins in a row. It must. But you  won't have an identifier that a swarm of the same characteristic is occurring. That is why it is a good idea to have a bet selection method that identifies conditions. It won't change the odds and it won't guarantee that the big investment will win on the next spin. But it will provide you with a consistent method for bet selections. With that in mind you can use the data gathered by a simulation. And from that you can see the actual effectiveness of the conditions. That effectiveness is real. It is not a figure formation in a chart. It could be a figure formation like a trading chart in the stock market.


Example:



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: alrelax on October 22, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
 Mark,

I hope you will stick around! 

Thanks for coming back, Glen. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
Thanks, I will stay around long enough to explain everything. Then those that know this will carry the water for it. You know a lot of it already. Your experience is monumental. Our Asian friend was right. You need to place bets that are at least 20 times larger than the base bet at times that make the most sense. I just can't figure out why he would struggle with that. All I have is using a strategy that reveals opportunities. It reveals all downward spirals before they can do extensive damage. And it's simple. That alone would protect the attacking bets.


Mark
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 03:43:08 PM
So what skills are needed to read randomness?


The first skill is to get over the absurdity of the phrase itself. It is argued and believed that because randomness is random it can't be read. And people are debating causes for trends and patterns with arguments reaching into the fantasy that you can't see trends or patterns because they don't exist. I will demonstrate how to make a chart and read it for Roulette. When I see 35 spins of the same dozen go to sleep and not hit all in a row, and then I go on to name the sequence of spins an "Elegant Pattern," then I get the crazies coming out of the woodwork. It infuriates those that can't see what is clearly in front of their faces. It makes them mean spirited, condescending, and judgmental. Those are self inflicted wounds. I like to egg them on just to keep them fueling their hatred. Nothing is too good for our math snobs.


Now I have just begun using these methods in Craps. You have one data set from two sets of a single grouping. You can bet for it to pass or not pass. You can load up on placed bets while at the same time riding the waves of the Field bets. Your only adversaries or allies being the seven on the come out roll and the following stretch before a seven appears again. It's a soft form of only tracking the Reds/ Blacks in Roulette.


So here is a chart of spins using a blind bet of red only bets. It breaks even while still hitting the greens five times. Everything you can see in this chart that is useful will fit on lined index cards. These cards can be used to play or practice using real live spins.



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 03:47:04 PM

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W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  01  --  11 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  02  --  13 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  03  --  14 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  04  --  28 ( $ -36 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  05  --  15 ( $ -54 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  06  --  33 ( $ -72 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  07  --  34 ( $ -54 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  08  --  12 ( $ -36 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  09  --  08 ( $ -54 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  10  --  02 ( $ -72 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  11  --  18 ( $ -54 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  12  --  11 ( $ -72 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  13  --  15 ( $ -90 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  14  --  36 ( $ -72 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  15  --  25 ( $ -54 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  16  --  30 ( $ -36 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  17  --  06 ( $ -54 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  18  --  21 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  19  --  03 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  20  --  10 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  21  --  18 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  22  --  30 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  23  --  36 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  24  --  23 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  25  --  22 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  26  --  12 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  27  --  33 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  28  --  26 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  29  --  02 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  30  --  33 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  31  --  27 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  32  --  09 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  33  --  10 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  34  --  27 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  35  --  03 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  36  --  16 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  37  --  28 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  38  --  14 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  39  --  02 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  40  --  35 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  41  --  06 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  42  --  05 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  43  --  07 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  44  --  02 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  45  --  25 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  46  --  20 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  47  --  30 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  48  --  15 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  49  --  17 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  50  --  29 ( $ -36 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  51  --  17 ( $ -54 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  52  --  10 ( $ -72 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  53  --  34 ( $ -54 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  54  --  21 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  55  --  30 ( $ -18 ) Red
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  56  --  37 ( $ -36 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  57  --  13 ( $ -54 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  58  --  12 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  59  --  18 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  60  --  18 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  61  --  29 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  62  --  30 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  63  --  13 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  64  --  22 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  65  --  01 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  66  --  08 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  67  --  19 ( $ -18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  68  --  24 ( $ -36 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  69  --  36 ( $ -18 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  70  --  07 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  71  --  16 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  72  --  21 ( $ 36 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  73  --  03 ( $ 54 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  74  --  01 ( $ 72 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  75  --  04 ( $ 54 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  76  --  29 ( $ 36 ) Red
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  77  --  37 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  78  --  32 ( $ 36 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  79  --  03 ( $ 54 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  80  --  14 ( $ 72 ) Red
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  81  --  37 ( $ 54 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  82  --  12 ( $ 72 ) Red
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  83  --  36 ( $ 90 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  84  --  08 ( $ 72 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  85  --  12 ( $ 90 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  86  --  05 ( $ 108 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  87  --  28 ( $ 90 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  88  --  28 ( $ 72 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  89  --  02 ( $ 54 ) Red
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  90  --  37 ( $ 36 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  91  --  12 ( $ 54 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  92  --  15 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  93  --  35 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  94  --  28 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  95  --  21 ( $ 18 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  96  --  20 ( $ 0 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  97  --  07 ( $ 18 ) Red
X |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  98  --  16 ( $ 36 ) Red
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  99  --  04 ( $ 18 ) Red
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  100  --  37 ( $ 0 ) Red
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 22, 2018, 06:48:48 PM
So let's take a look at one characteristic in the red/black grouping. That's the first group from the left.


First black dominates over red.


Then red takes over.


There are micro phases that switch back and forth all the way down the 100 spins. They are small mini domination stretches. You can see them and the quality of them.


I notice a lot of times that when one side dominates the other side of the group hits as a single or as a swarm of doubles. Those are signals to try to duplicate the rhythm of the sequence.  If there is a swarm of singles on the resistant side then you can go right back to hammering the dominate side. Now this is very common. With so many data streams, 6 groups in all with this chart, you can just hunt domination where singles or doubles are either prevalent or interspersed equally. The total absence of triples on the weak side is a major opportunity.  You have varying lengths of dominance on the strong side. If you are just seeing singles on the weak side then you can go right back to a win on the next bet. It's a matter of seeing the pattern and betting it to win.


The trick is to have a policy to stop once the pattern breaks. You must stop placing bets once the first triple shows up. You then look to see if the sets flop sides in the grouping. You look for another condition that is repeating. You have 6 groups, 12 sets, to find at least four or five common trends and patterns from at any time. You know "chop." Those are swarms of singles. Sometimes a trait will return right away and continue. You need to watch for that too. You must become a skillful viewer. The more characteristics and common patterns you know the more opportunities you will see occurring. You use virtual bets when you are not placing real bets. You must keep a record of your effectiveness had you flat bet every spin. You only strike when a trend works.


If you only had betting on four in a row tactics, "Quads," then hitting triples each time you place a bet would produce a sequence of losses. You will hit sequences of first bets always losing. It's part of the mathematics of randomness. It's that perfect sequence of death acting up again. It tells you the effectiveness of your session. But you will also hit streaks of winners too. When betting on even chance bets you balance one lost bet with one winning bet. So it's real easy to see effectiveness in bet selections. If you are at least hitting 50/50 on your first bet losses then your winners that contain more wins than losses puts you ahead like the video suggests. You aggregate a 1 win or more for every lost bet. That is what you are looking to accomplish. You know that you will lose 50% of all first bets. But you also know that you will hit the dominant side of the groups for far more. So the challenge here is to learn to see the characteristics of randomness. The skill is to stop feeding a swarm of first bet losses. The chaos and the streaks of dominance and patterns will return if you wait for it to surface.


You can't expect to see your pet numbers go hyperactive just because you have arrived at the casino. You must see what the spins are serving up for today's meal. If you have a plan then you can exploit it. If you don't, then you can't. This would be true of a noticed bias wheel too. Only the casinos change out the parts in order to discourage that.


Do you see this yet? Can you see the method to get more wins than losses from each first try bet? Each first try of a trend or a pattern is like a single stock purchase in the video. In the stocks you hang on for sell points. In this method you go with the pattern until it breaks. You lose a first bet that is a sell loss like in the video. You get more than one win before a loss and that is like a sell at up momentum on the range expected. You are just playing the unknown randomness with speculation that a strong pattern will continue to dominate. It doesn't actually need to be perfect also. It can be slightly imperfect and still have a very strong side to it.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 02:58:30 AM
Time for more BS, and I don't mean bet selection. That's for those that have no idea that I'm back here explaining it all. funny, it's crickets here and I'm not telling anyone that it's here.


Moving on.


I just ran 100 more spins to see what I will see. And it's a huge lesson in reading the effectiveness state. Gotta come up with a better title for that. How about an acronym from " your behind is grass," or some other 50's catch phrase. Somebody coin a phrase. Jokes are permitted from the cricket squads. We all want to laugh.


So this is amazing. It's up and down. And it shows what I want to say if a person where to use good logic to deal with it.


First the graph and then the chart, like before.



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 03:26:26 AM
OK, the chart to back it up:


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W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  01  --  01 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  02  --  22 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  03  --  02 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  04  --  31 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  05  --  23 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  06  --  32 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  07  --  32 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  08  --  38 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  09  --  26 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  10  --  16 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  11  --  33 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  12  --  01 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  13  --  31 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  14  --  38 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  15  --  06 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  16  --  19 ( $ -36 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  17  --  23 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  18  --  10 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  19  --  02 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  20  --  34 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  21  --  07 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  22  --  17 ( $ -36 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  23  --  23 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  24  --  31 ( $ -36 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  25  --  26 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  26  --  24 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  27  --  13 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  28  --  34 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  29  --  27 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  30  --  25 ( $ 36 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  31  --  26 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  32  --  26 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  33  --  18 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  34  --  10 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  35  --  11 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  36  --  28 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  37  --  25 ( $ 90 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  38  --  24 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  39  --  20 ( $ 90 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  40  --  38 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  41  --  29 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  42  --  09 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  43  --  16 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  44  --  38 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  45  --  03 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  46  --  01 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  47  --  34 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  48  --  08 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  49  --  10 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  50  --  28 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  51  --  09 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  52  --  10 ( $ 180 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  53  --  11 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  54  --  14 ( $ 180 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  55  --  20 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  56  --  17 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  57  --  36 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  58  --  37 ( $ 180 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  59  --  38 ( $ 198 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  60  --  21 ( $ 180 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  61  --  18 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  62  --  38 ( $ 180 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  63  --  16 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  64  --  33 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  65  --  36 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  66  --  08 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  67  --  27 ( $ 162 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  68  --  32 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  69  --  31 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  70  --  27 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  71  --  11 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  72  --  33 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  73  --  10 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  74  --  17 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  75  --  32 ( $ 90 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  76  --  17 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  77  --  08 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  78  --  14 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  79  --  06 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  80  --  38 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  81  --  09 ( $ 90 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  82  --  37 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  83  --  38 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  84  --  01 ( $ 144 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  85  --  19 ( $ 126 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  86  --  34 ( $ 108 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  87  --  19 ( $ 90 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  88  --  07 ( $ 72 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  89  --  33 ( $ 54 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  90  --  06 ( $ 36 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  91  --  08 ( $ 18 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  92  --  07 ( $ 0 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  93  --  11 ( $ -18 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  94  --  19 ( $ -36 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  95  --  21 ( $ -54 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  96  --  12 ( $ -72 ) Zeros
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  97  --  21 ( $ -90 ) Zeros
   | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  98  --  08 ( $ -108 ) Zeros
X |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  99  --  38 ( $ -90 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  100  --  14 ( $ -72 ) Zeros
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 03:40:01 AM
Want to blow away a casino? It's all here. All you need is virtual bets and knowing when to step back and when to attack.


You want to learn that? You should if you want to keep up.


You might want to fight for blind absolutism if you don't. I hope you do. We need to see the death throws of the loyal opposition. This is the moment that I always hoped would make the mathBoyz cringe.  They will be destroyed by me. And so far nobody knows I'm doing this. This place is like crickets central. Funny.  Let's keep it a secret.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: esoito on October 23, 2018, 04:15:17 AM
"funny, it's crickets here and I'm not telling anyone that it's here."
and
"This place is like crickets central. "

You seem to have broken up your interesting narrative with some sort of insider-crickets-joke that flew right over my head -- and possibly the other reader as well.

Care to explain -- briefly?


Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: XXVV on October 23, 2018, 04:22:03 AM
Sincere thanks for your work and timing Gizmo.

I am very fortunate to be tuned in here at this time and place, and to access your insights, terminology, parallels and cross over strategies from the market traders.

The ridiculous and absurd exclusion of roulette from RQ or risk intelligence analysis will be shown to be flawed, and that to our considerable advantage under the radar.

Perfect timing.  Much exciting work and application ahead.

Thank you. R.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: esoito on October 23, 2018, 04:15:17 AM
"funny, it's crickets here and I'm not telling anyone that it's here."
and
"This place is like crickets central. "

You seem to have broken up your interesting narrative with some sort of insider-crickets-joke that flew right over my head -- and possibly the other reader as well.

Care to explain -- briefly?


"Crickets" is a "campy" reference to when in the silence all you can hear are the crickets. It's like saying "really out there" too. It's a common reference in American Movies and  some political talking-heads that just discovered the metaphor.  Funny that too. It's as old as the hills among teenagers. Some talking heads are total nerds. It's a way of seeing if you can get it too. It's a right of passage in slang. I'm sure there must be many other ways to say it among the teenagers of the world. I'd love to hear about that. Teenagers always find a way to be cool.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 04:53:52 AM
Thanks XXVV. You are an analytical researcher. You will probably find a way of your own to modify what I suggest and make it yours. And that is good too.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 07:45:03 AM
Hello Gizmotron,

I am happy for you. But, I have some news for you. You are way behind on the discovery ladder. There is a group that has been exploiting this concept for years, sophisticated and fine tuned. Anyway, good for you.

The Crow
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: alrelax on October 23, 2018, 02:41:52 PM
Regarding the Crickets if I may.

In my opinion they are all out there, they read,  they watch,  they don't say anything, they look, they Wonder, they go do their thing, it fails,  they come back, they still see the Crickets but they don't see anything else.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
The mathBoyz have the furthest to go. They are stuck on prediction and nothing else. I get it. They predict what a bias wheel will produce, a spin computer will calculate, or a dealer signature will occur. Without tangible advantages beyond probability they can't consider being mistaken. So, we carry on. As for the inexperienced players they are mostly stuck on systems. It's a right of passage to find out that the Martingale won't work. Then they spend years tweaking that.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 07:45:03 AM
Hello Gizmotron,

I am happy for you. But, I have some news for you. You are way behind on the discovery ladder. There is a group that has been exploiting this concept for years, sophisticated and fine tuned. Anyway, good for you.

The Crow


I see by an early post that you are illuding to something in an early post:


Quote from: The Crow on March 08, 2013, 10:48:25 AM
There is another approach which does not entail linear thinking, which drives the math guys crazy, synchronistic events.

"Synchronicity refers to those random yet seemingly meaningful coincidences that enrich our lives, sometimes to our amazement, sometimes to our distress, and sometimes to our delight," a foreword by Alan Combs to Dr. Kirby Surprise's book called Synchronicity.

There are many roulette players who experience these events as they are deciding what numbers to choose. It's almost like they know what numbers are coming in. I'm sure at one point or another many have experienced such an event. You say to yourself, number seven is coming in and the dealer says no more bets. The number seven come in.

I believe lateral thinking combined with synchronistic events offers the roulette player an advantage over randomness.

TC
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Crow, this is one that is more than five years old:


Quote
Hi Gizmotron,

I am curious how you would choose bet selection while at a live table without all of your sorting tools and filtering. You need some kind of reference. If not by grid, then how?

I use random against random, stream of consciousness if you will. Do you do the same? or are you changing your groups as you play?

TC


I change my groupings constantly based on the best looking continuation. My ESP is fragmentary and only works in short bursts. I have learned to "fly the plane" on instruments. It's a mistake to feed a losing hunch, for me that is.



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 03:28:59 PM
Crow:
Quote
Roulette is the same thing. The numbers paint a wonderful picture. It's never the same. Random bets are never the same as well. When the two are combined, something magically happens, you win.

I know everything about roulette. More importantly, I know nothing about roulette, which makes me either delusional or real.
Now that's random.


So you make random bet selections. Do you consider that sometimes those bets work badly or do you always bet randomly with a winning accuracy? Do you see where the combinations intersect before you place bets?
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 04:33:38 PM
Back to the latest chart:


Look at the "| 0 6 |" column from spin 60 and down. The 0's hit as singles for a while and then the repeats start to swarm. All that is needed is a strategy to get way more wins than losses. All you have to do is bet that conditions will continue and to protect when sides change.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 05:14:55 PM
Giz,

I don't understand your reasoning for posting old post of mine and requesting responses from them. With regard to your topic, your examples do not show how to capitalize on the trends provided, nor does it show what 0 6, P, S represents. You may have explained it in other posts, but it would appreciated if you post them here for other people who are not familiar with your groupings.

Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 05:14:55 PM
Giz,

I don't understand your reasoning for posting old post of mine and requesting responses from them. With regard to your topic, your examples do not show how to capitalize on the trends provided, nor does it show what 0 6, P, S represents. You may have explained it in other posts, but it would appreciated if you post them here for other people who are not familiar with your groupings.


I was just trying to confirm that you claim to know what I have just arrived at, something you have been doing for years. I've been banging away at the trends and patterns for more than a decade. I have just been doing it badly.


Before you can capitalize on trends and patterns you must learn to see them. I use the charts, live, while at a casino in order to see the best occurring continuation of any trend or pattern. It is the cart before the horse at this point to explain how to strategically use them. But I did that all in my first example anyway. You are going to get a little observation in the charts and you are going to get suggested strategy for the examples as I continue forward.


I'm puzzled now. You suggest that you already know this stuff. So your question is a rhetorical one for the benefit of other readers or are you in some kind of confusion as to what I'm showing?


Those sets " 0 6 " are sets of 18 or 20 numbers made from the American wheel and are based on locations on the wheel with regards to proximity. There are four sectors. It is meaningless. You can make up any sets that you want. The "P's" and "S's" are pet groups as well with two sets making each grouping also. I don't need to share them. People can make up their own. Use Kimo Li groups that are 18 to 20 numbers if you want.


The point is to place even chance bets that you can then place "X's" in a chart while playing live at a casino. From those charts you can read randomness.


Once you are skilled at all the best characteristics you can learn about the strategy that best mimics what the stock trader suggests in the video. A person must walk before they can run. If you only have one characteristic and one grouping with two sets then your options are very limited. That's sort of all you get with Craps and Baccarat.


Here are the best characteristics to look for.


Repeaters, including any patterns associated with the size of reoccurring stretches.


Chop -- better known on gambling forums as singles in series.


Swarms of doubles, triples, quadruples, etc...


Singles or Doubles in series on one side during an other side's domination.


The allusive global effect and the perfect reoccurring pattern.


This is the first time that I have shown exactly what to look for and at what spin numbers & grouping to find the examples in the charts. It will take a while. You suggest that you already have the skill. I'm actually concerned that you have the power of sight and don't rely on the skill. But this is a question too so I'm willing to answer you.





Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
While there are thousands of characteristics to choose from, there is only one that matters. Having the skills and knowledge of recognizing occurrences comes with experience. What good are these skills when it is not properly applied to playing roulette? I can teach a layman, who has never played roulette, one skill; and they will win every single time.

Recently, I taught two individuals that one skill. One person was not concerned with how much he made, but the consistency the strategy provided, as he played .25 cents betting, buy in 8.00 to 20.00. He won 5 sessions in a row, 100.00 in two hours. That was not his main concern. He was super happy about the consistency.

The other player is currently playing everyday for one hour and makes 100.00 to 170.00 each session. He plays only one session per visit. He started a week ago.

These two players now belong to the exclusive group and talk among themselves. So you see, all this talk about randomness, strategies, patterns, is just that, talk, people searching for answers. You have found a glimpse of recognition. All you have to do is know how to apply it skillfully.

The Crow






Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: The Crow on October 23, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
While there are thousands of characteristics to choose from, there is only one that matters. Having the skills and knowledge of recognizing occurrences comes with experience. What good are these skills when it is not properly applied to playing roulette? I can teach a layman, who has never played roulette, one skill; and they will win every single time.

Recently, I taught two individuals that one skill. One person was not concerned with how much he made, but the consistency the strategy provided, as he played .25 cents betting, buy in 8.00 to 20.00. He won 5 sessions in a row, 100.00 in two hours. That was not his main concern. He was super happy about the consistency.

The other player is currently playing everyday for one hour and makes 100.00 to 170.00 each session. He plays only one session per visit. He started a week ago.

These two players now belong to the exclusive group and talk among themselves. So you see, all this talk about randomness, strategies, patterns, is just that, talk, people searching for answers. You have found a glimpse of recognition. All you have to do is know how to apply it skillfully.

The Crow


What a condescending pile of Zen master BS. You are still clueless to what I have to say yet you suggest that you already know where I'm headed. And this crud about an exclusive group of neophytes that have shared in the crumbs that have fallen from your table is almost just short of comical.


We will carry on here with my sharing the real and you doing a Bozo act. All you have done is to pose as a professional gambler that teaches newbies your so called secret "always win" tactics. I'm not buying it anymore. Start your own thread. Seeing what is currently occurring and matching the sequences so as to reveal the effectiveness is as old as the hills. I told everyone back in the Gambler's Glen days. The time of hidden secrets is over. The mathBoyz are about to get a lesson they will never forget. Welcome to the side in the light of day.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: esoito on October 23, 2018, 11:31:17 PM
Settle down Gz.  Right at this point you have an important decision to make.

EITHER:  choose to be wound up and annoyed by what others write and respond in a way that going to lead to a protracted, dysfunctional argument

OR:  choose NOT to be wound up and annoyed by what others write. Just ignore it and simply continue the thread.

Your choice.  (I sincerely hope you choose the second option...)
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 23, 2018, 11:59:03 PM
I already have gone with the second option. I can remove any more disruptions. I thought he had something to say. He can pose his positions in his own area.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 24, 2018, 12:15:07 AM
Sorry Giz, you are the one who posted all of my old posts to get a reaction from me. It's not what you wanted to hear.

I simply told you the truth, just stating the facts. I can back up all of my claims, 100%.

In fact, I can contact Victor and provide proof so he can acknowledge to you that I do have what I say.

The Crow


Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 24, 2018, 01:29:13 AM
I read all your posts. You have very interesting things to say about experience and staying under the radar as well as getting robbed with two wallets. I've considered these myself. I was targeted in Vegas after a nice win in in the middle of the day. The pirates thought I was going for the parking garage. I was headed up the street instead to my RV site and walked there along the main drag.


It's just that this (welcome to the gang you upstart) that riles me up to maximum. I know that you have always kept it a secret. But it's so secret that it is questionable to all these imaginary followers. But what the heck, that just goes to style.


I posted the old comments to see if you are a space cadet, now not so bad, the newest branch of our military. But it really gets New Age there for a while. If I have to tolerate condescending Zen like pestering then you have to endure my sarcasm. Who cares anyway?


You use conditional awareness to extrapolate advantage states. You seem to advocate an everything up against the wall to see what sticks method. I have learned to confine just a few common occurring characteristics across 12 sets that make up 6 groupings. And I also use feelings to make guesses. I know when it is working and I know when it is not working. All I've done recently is to simplify it to the degree that a few rules combined with a very few opportunities makes the aggregated session a positive outcome. That video was a watershed moment. It showed me to play for the big win, the long termed win. So I'm going to explain it so that the debate will end. The math crowd will have to explain why it works. And that will be when they eat crow, no pun intended.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 24, 2018, 02:48:24 AM
At the end of the day, you have something that works for you and hopefully you have a following that will benefit from you efforts. For me, I am at the point where it does not matter. I have something that works for me, who cares?

I don't agree with the math boyzs. They will never figure it out; their downfall, OCD, limited to laws "discovered" by other OCD types. Don't get me wrong. Math has it's place, not in roulette, when it comes to winning. Why? Roulette is a negative expectation game. Wrong!!!!

My approach is, how much money do I want to take home today? Not, I hope I win today.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 24, 2018, 11:39:38 AM
So you advocate for not sharing the secrets then. The math crowd, (OCD)  :applause:  appropriate, don't deserve to be shown as feckless. And I should not be so mad as to show masses of people how to win.


In the following graph and chart I used bet selection based on trends, virtual bets where a $0 value was used to make a selection. The chart shows these with a hyphen next to the win or lose marking for that spin. At the far right is the set that is bet to win.


So it would be a major jip if I don't enplane how I use the concept of the video to enhance my trend betting style. I'll have to think about this.


So I decided to show one last example. I can go back to my self imposed silence. It has it all in it. I ran 10 spins just to get the chart going. Then I played 50 bet selections with and without value.


It's all here by example:



Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 24, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
And the chart:



W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP
nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  01  --  32
nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  02  --  14
nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  03  --  36
nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  04  --  32
nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  05  --  18
nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  06  --  20
nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  07  --  30
nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  08  --  36
nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  09  --  01
nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  10  --  26
X-|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  11  --  09 ( $ 0 ) Red
   | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  12  --  15 ( $ -90 ) Red
X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  13  --  03 ( $ 0 ) Red
X-|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  14  --  03 ( $ 0 ) Odd
X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  15  --  17 ( $ 90 ) Odd
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  16  --  23 ( $ 180 ) Odd
X-|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  17  --  01 ( $ 180 ) Not Specials
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  18  --  33 ( $ 80 ) Not Specials
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  19  --  25 ( $ -20 ) Not Specials
  -|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  20  --  32 ( $ -20 ) Not Specials
  -|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  21  --  32 ( $ -20 ) Not Specials
X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  22  --  34 ( $ 70 ) Even
X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  23  --  12 ( $ 160 ) Even
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  24  --  14 ( $ 250 ) Even
X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  25  --  02 ( $ 340 ) Even
   | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  26  --  31 ( $ 304 ) Even
  -|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  27  --  05 ( $ 304 ) Not Specials
X-| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  28  --  15 ( $ 304 ) Six's
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  29  --  14 ( $ 204 ) Six's
X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  30  --  35 ( $ 294 ) Zeros
  -|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  31  --  16 ( $ 294 ) Zeros
X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  32  --  17 ( $ 374 ) Six's
X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  33  --  08 ( $ 454 ) Six's
X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  34  --  29 ( $ 534 ) Not Specials
X | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  35  --  31 ( $ 624 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  36  --  01 ( $ 534 ) Black
  -| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  37  --  28 ( $ 534 ) Red
X-| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  38  --  10 ( $ 534 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  39  --  25 ( $ 444 ) Black
X-| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  40  --  10 ( $ 444 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  41  --  14 ( $ 534 ) Zeros
   | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  42  --  33 ( $ 444 ) Zeros
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  43  --  32 ( $ 354 ) Zeros
  -| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  44  --  15 ( $ 354 ) Zeros
  -|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  45  --  19 ( $ 354 ) Zeros
X |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  46  --  32 ( $ 434 ) Six's
X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  47  --  34 ( $ 514 ) Six's
   | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  48  --  10 ( $ 414 ) Six's
X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  49  --  36 ( $ 494 ) Not Primes
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  50  --  03 ( $ 454 ) Not Primes
X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  51  --  23 ( $ 486 ) Not Primes
X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  52  --  34 ( $ 518 ) Not Primes
X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  53  --  17 ( $ 598 ) Not Specials
X |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  54  --  07 ( $ 688 ) Red
   | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  55  --  24 ( $ 598 ) Red
X-|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  56  --  14 ( $ 598 ) Red
X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  57  --  06 ( $ 688 ) Black
X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  58  --  01 ( $ 768 ) Not Specials
X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  59  --  06 ( $ 848 ) Not Specials
X |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  60  --  27 ( $ 928 ) Not Specials
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 24, 2018, 01:42:00 PM
"A little bird was flying south for the Winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field.

While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him.
As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was.

The dung was actually thawing him out!
He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.

A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him.

Morals of the story:

(1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.
(2) Not everyone who gets you out of stuff is your friend.
(3) And when you're in deep stuff, it's best to keep your mouth shut!"
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: esoito on October 24, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
@ The Crow
Kindly stop interrupting the man with 'much ado about nothing'.  Just leave him alone to explain his concepts.

I'd rather read what he has to say.

Start up your own thread if all you want to do is to be eristic and divisive.

Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 25, 2018, 01:02:15 AM
Without being too obvious, the message I was trying to convey to Gizmotron is not to disclose his secret because I have seen him work so hard over the years and for him to give it away is a shame. I understand Gizmotron seeks validation, but I believe he will be best served to be quiet and just make money.

The Crow
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on October 25, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: The Crow on October 25, 2018, 01:02:15 AM
Without being too obvious, the message I was trying to convey to Gizmotron is not to disclose his secret because I have seen him work so hard over the years and for him to give it away is a shame. I understand Gizmotron seeks validation, but I believe he will be best served to be quiet and just make money.

The Crow


I got the message and agree with it. It makes no sense to get mad enough to wreck my own future. If I don't want to be mad I'll just have to give up the forums.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: The Crow on October 25, 2018, 06:31:38 PM
Good luck Giz, I wish you well, a wise decision.

The Crow
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on May 13, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
And now to put it all into perspective. Here is the video that changed everything that led to me sharing everything almost four years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRCtBRsLPmk

Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: VLS on May 13, 2023, 03:03:38 AM
Hello again Mark! :rose:

Welcome back & thanks for sharing your interesting ways to tackle the game :thumbsup:

Cheers!
Vic
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: Gizmotron on May 13, 2023, 03:39:18 AM
Victor, still around also. Good to see you are still working on things. Hope your are well. I almost gave up. Then something opened my eyes.

So what is your method, system, capability, awareness, etc... of gambling interest now days?
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: 8OR9 on May 13, 2023, 02:48:30 PM
The video above is very helpful.........but I suggest you google search the terms             "stop hunting"  and " high frequency trading" if you plan on investing or speculating in the stock, future, or forex markets.

Basically the markets are just like a casino with ultra fast high speed computers and algorithms (algos) making hundreds or even thousands of trades a minute trying to scalp a few ticks a second which comes out to multi millions of dollars a year in profits, all at the expense of the retail trader.....known publicly by the industry as the "retail trade" but privately as  "unintelligent money"

In the very long run, prices of securities will eventually reflect their intrinsic value...but in the short run, you are trading against a super computer which has no correlation to the actual value of the security you are trading.
Title: Re: Play Roulette like a stock trading professional
Post by: VLS on May 14, 2023, 02:48:27 AM
Quote from: Gizmotron on May 13, 2023, 03:39:18 AMVictor, still around also. Good to see you are still working on things. Hope your are well. I almost gave up. Then something opened my eyes.

So what is your method, system, capability, awareness, etc... of gambling interest now days?

Hi Mark! I'm still around & joyful; really can't complain :thumbsup:

My goal these days is to keep myself healthy, so the rest would follow.

I'm mostly into cycle-based play, compounding on the positive trams while flat-betting minimal units on the trams with dispersion.

There are some threads on the subject over @ RouletteIdeas.com:

https://rouletteideas.com/concepts/

Nice to see you're also active at the scene :thumbsup:

Cheers!