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Title: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 21, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
I'll skip to the strategy:

Tracking DS, in columns of 2

Laid out like so:

2 5
1 3
6 2
3 4  etc

Selection is simple:

Wait for a double that is not a repeat such as

3 5

Then bet that the next two DS will not repeat

3 5
2 3 win

Then retrack and wait for another non repeating couplet.

If you get a loss, then retrack same as above.

Progression 1 on each DS
If lost then raise to 2 on each until recovery
If lost again the to 3 on each

BW
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 21, 2013, 04:08:38 PM
Also, you may find yourself still up in profit after a single loss. This is because you will experience long runs of consecutive wins. If you're still in profit, then it's wise not to increase from base unit. Just take the loss and carry on building from there.

BW
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Chrisbis on June 21, 2013, 04:16:22 PM
If  your betting that the next two Lines will not repeat, are U betting the other 5 Lines then?
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 21, 2013, 04:20:22 PM
Correct.

So a loss is -5 units

3 wins in a row to get that back, which is commonplace.

Here's an example

4 5
2 1 win +1
5 5 no bet
2 6
1 3 win +2
6 2
5 4 win +3
2 2 no bet
1 6
5 5 loss -2 (up to 2 units)
3 5
2 1 win 0 back to 1 unit
5 6
3 1 win +1

Etc

It is very easy to quickly get to +10 with this so don't get too greedy and have a stop off point

Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Chrisbis on June 21, 2013, 10:20:07 PM
Quote
2 2 no bet
1 6
5 5 loss -2 (up to 2 units)


Why at this bet point (U have tracked the 1 and the 6), is it a loss?
I would have thought U'd bet betting on Lines 2, 3, 4 & 5
so why is the 5 5 a loss?
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: GreatGrampa on June 21, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
You have eagle eyes :)
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: weddings on June 22, 2013, 12:12:43 AM
He is betting for a repeat not to occur. Since line 5 appeared he bets 1 2 3 4 6. And 5 appeared so it was a lost.
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 22, 2013, 07:59:20 AM
Yes weddings is right

A repeat is a no bet so you wait for a non repeating line before playing

5 5 no bet
2 6 these are non repeaters
3 1 win on DS 1

Hope this is a little clearer
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: GreatGrampa on June 22, 2013, 08:18:00 AM
Quote from: Buffalowizard on June 22, 2013, 07:59:20 AM
Yes weddings is right

A repeat is a no bet so you wait for a non repeating line before playing

5 5 no bet
2 6 these are non repeaters
3 1 win on DS 1

Hope this is a little clearer
Confused mate.  There are 3 options possible here. 

Option 1
You play both columns. While playing column 1 you play that line 2 do not appear and playing column 2 you play 6 do not appear.

Option 2
You play only the 2nd column. While playing you play for 6 and 3 not to appear.

Option 3
You play only 2nd column. While playing u play for 3 not to appear.  Which one are you playing.

If you are playing option 3 then you need 5 wins to compensate 1 loss and not 3. If you are playing option 1, then 5,5 is not a loss in your example.  :o ???

Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Chrisbis on June 22, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
Put me down for double confusion then!  :upsidedown:


Could BW give us a Line by Line explanation for the first example he gave us.


@Weddings, U are looking further down that the example section I quoted.


4 5.........................First Spin I guess, to establish Tracking/First Trigger
2 1 win +1..............Yes, I get that one, bet would have been (1,2,3,5,6 for first Col & 1,2,3,4,6 for second Col)(or 1,2,3,6 for Both)
5 5 no bet...............Tracking/No Trigger (cause it's a double)
2 6.........................New Tracking/Next Trigger
1 3 win +2..............Get this one too bet would have been (1,3,4,5,6 for first Col & 1,2,3,4,5 for second Col)(or 1,3,4,5 for Both)
6 2 ........................Tracking/Next Trigger
5 4 win +3..............Ok, I see this one, bet would have been (1,2,3,4,6 for first Col & 1,2,3,5,6 for second Col)(or 1,2,3,6 for Both)
2 2 no bet...............Tracking /No Trigger (cause it's a double)
1 6.........................New Tracking/Trigger
5 5 loss -2 (up to 2 units)....................The bet must be (2,3,4,5,6 for first Col & 1,2,3,4,5 for the second Col)(or 2,3,4,5 for Both)
3 5.........................Tracking/Next Trigger


Which bet selection is it BW?
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 22, 2013, 10:02:34 AM
Hi guys sorry for the confusion.

You only bet on the 2nd of the columns hoping for a non repeat

3 5
2    <so you'd bet 1,3,4,5,6

4 6
4    <bet 1,2,3,5,6

Sorry I should have mentioned before that you don't bet both columns

BW
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: weddings on June 22, 2013, 10:29:57 AM
I tried a quick game on RNG, lost 2 in a row then a win and a lost again. Just do it on live.
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Chrisbis on June 22, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
@BW


Thanx for the clarity.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 22, 2013, 01:05:57 PM
Hi guys,


here's a session of 100 spins below I just played - it shows the up and down of an ordinary session - the beauty is that there are lots of 'get out' points. It is fairly straightforward to cling back a loss or two with the small increase of units, so there should be no huge drawdowns either.

3 3  nb
5 1
5 1  +1
6 4
5 5  -4
5 2
4 5  -2
6 4
2 5   0
1 4
3 6   +1
3 2
1 3   +2
4 2
4 5   +3
4 4   nb
3 2
5 4   +4
6 1
5 6   +5
1 3
3 3   0
6 2
3 2   +2
3 1
1 3   +3
1 5
2 3   +4
2 5
5 3   +5
1 3
6 3   +6
2 1
1 1   +1
1 6
1 5   +3
5 4
6 5   +4
3 6
5 5   -1
4 5
1 2   +1
3 2
6 2   +2
1 5
5 2   +3
4 3
4 3   +4
4 4   nb
3 3   nb
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: GreatGrampa on June 22, 2013, 01:59:56 PM
Will it be wise to play for a repeat? stake is lower  return higher
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: ignatus on June 22, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
Still don't understand how you place your bets?


6 2
3 2   +2
3 1
1 3   +3

6,2 then you bet 3,2? That is the same ds?

3,1 then you bet 1,3? That is both the same??


If you're betting the same ds that came, then it's betting for a repeat...??
Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Buffalowizard on June 22, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
My mistake Iggy, I bow my head in embarrassment and humbly apologize[size=78%]. You are right.[/size]

[/size]Great Gramps was on the money, betting for repeats is the way to go.[size=78%]

[/size]My head's not screwed on![size=78%]

[/size]BW
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Title: Re: The Profiteer
Post by: Chrisbis on June 22, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
Maybe use the system to play for the Repeat (as indicated by GreatG) AFTER a certain time period?


Say, if No repeat of the Lines in 10 records of Dual Lines, then play for the repeat.??


Need a rule for the repeat.


[reveal=Maybe!?]


2  5
3  5
1  2
4  6
6  4
Even tho there 'Looks' like there has been no repeat of the Lines bet, there has been one, if we Isolate the lines bet into anything other than dual style.
for instance:-


2  5  3
5  1  2
4  6  6
4
As U see, put in groups of three, shows a repeat.[/reveal]