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[alrelax]

Banker had 2 times, 3 IAR and the third cards for the first 3IAR were a 6-8-9 in that order.  The only other guy and myself say to each other, that 7 is coming, look we had 3 perfect setups for an F7 win if we got a 7 card on any of those 3rd ones.  Then the second 3 IAR, the third cards for that 3 IAR were a 6-9-8 in that order.  Another perfect set of 3 chances if we only got a 7. 

This was the beginning of the shoe.  The first 3 hands were 3 IAR banker, then a player, then a banker, then a player, then 2 bankers, then a player, then the second set of 3 IAR bankers came.

Only the other guy and myself at the table playing.  We were both betting max Fortune 7 each time.  So like 12 hands were out now.  I looked at him and said, what do you think?  He shrugs his shoulders and says, no feeling.  He places min wager on both the players and the bankers and a very small F7 wager.  It was a tie.  He does it again, and it was a players win.  I sat out both times. 

After that second time, I was like, this isn't going anywhere.  I wagered bankers side but no F7 wager.  The other guy playing is back on banker and max F7 wager.  Dealer deals.  Players have an 8 and a 2.  Bankers have 2 face cards.  Players third card is a 6.  Bankers third card was a friggin 7 for the F7 win.

Why is it almost always like this?  The first hand sitting the F7 wager out and it appears.  Happens quite frequently IMO.  Not just with F7 wagers, but with increased large wagers on P or B and also ties, etc, etc. 

Some type of phenomenon I guess. One of many, within an actual B&M bac shoe when you really think about it.

[KungFuBac]

Hi alrelax

Good post/ session details.

re: "...After that second time, I was like, this isn't going anywhere.  I wagered bankers side but no F7 wager.  The other guy playing is back on banker and max F7 wager.  Dealer deals.  Players have an 8 and a 2.  Bankers have 2 face cards.  Players third card is a 6.  Bankers third card was a friggin 7 for the F7 win.

Why is it almost always like this?  The first hand sitting the F7 wager out and it appears.  Happens quite frequently IMO.  Not just with F7 wagers, but with increased large wagers on P or B and also ties, etc, etc.

Some type of phenomenon I guess. One of many, within an actual B&M bac shoe when you really think about it...."


    I'm of the opinion that f I'm going to wager for any of the bonus bets such as F7 or any of the more complex events I'm more likely to wager at front end of shoe vs latter. All other causal or correlated variables the same.
Yes, we can obviously see any outcome anywhere in the shoe. However, IMO the more complex an event the greatest potential is when "all" the cards or majority of cards are still available.

As with any specific event showing we must still have the cards in the correct order for said event. My logic is that even if we get the correct shuffle and cut for let's say (F7) to show early in the shoe. That same "order" of cards will reappear (cycle again) later in shoe, even allowing for the cards shifting back/forth due to 4-5-6 card hands.

However, at that latter point in the shoe when the order has reappeared if the previous numerical card values are no longer in shoe (or fewer) then the probability of seeing the F7-forming card values again is now less likely. Of course, when all the card values needed for an F7 are still available in abundance immediately after the initial F7 presented the card order may not have cycled back through again. This is when we see that 3C7 show but on the Player side. If we track certain cards for certain events such as F7 its surprising to see how often that 3c7 hand shows overall as many times the Player side is receiving the majority and many times, we don't notice if P is the recipient.

Continued Success,

[alrelax]

More so than not, the first 1/3rd followed by and within the first half of the shoe, have a greater amount of F7s and P8s than other sections. 

To me, it's not really the predictability, it is more the capturing of possibilities that exist and are forming. 

There are balances and imbalances.  There are the pathways to each of those that are being realized several times throughout most shoes.  A person open-minded enough without mechanical wagering emotions, is likely to be able to wager winning sides within sections much easier than those that are hell bent on following their systems and figured out 'must be's' to appear. 

[AsymBacGuy]

Both the last two posts are particularly interesting.

I'd suggest to read them several times.

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