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[alrelax]

The biggest misconception, by better than 90% of all baccarat players is, that something will or something will not occur because of a math or stat result due to some type of count.  And even if it is not a math or stat result one is using as a trigger, so many will trigger off of such things like-too many Ps or Bs or it's going to cut after a natural or a tie, etc., etc.

There is absolutely nothing that can allow you to set triggers that will be consistent winners with any type of regularity. I would love to see proof otherwise. But in my heart and soul I know there is no such proof that can be produced by anybody.

Any type of event the shoe is presenting, will continue no matter how close to a math or stat count it is or how far away it was when it produced the first hand of the event. That event and all events that the shoe will produce. cannot in any way be altered or influenced by math or stat results. Nor can the presentments be defined by any type of math or stat results.

If you choose to ignore a repetitive event being presented, you are missing great advantaged opportunities that could be in your favor. Likewise, if you continue to wager for that same event to continue once finished or for those to return, you are also hurting yourself and throwing your buy-in and and any win money out the window.

While something is repetitively occurring (no matter if it's back-to-backs or anything else), if you wager with it, you will only lose the last hand when the event stops if you wagered for the event to continue when it was being presented by the shoe.

I have witnessed more losses due to the shoe presenting back to back clumping, say five players-one or two bankers-then six or seven players, etc. Or the opposite with back to back bankers and one or two players and then another group of back-to-back bankers. And when that happens most all are wagering for the opposite side (non dominating side) to start its win and they forgo winning on what is being repetitive. 

The same goes for pure chop-chop and other easy to recognize patterns, does not have to be streaking/back to back, etc.

[KungFuBac]

alrelax above:

"...While something is repetitively occurring (no matter if it's back-to-backs or anything else), if you wager with it, you will only lose the last hand when the event stops if you wagered for the event to continue when it was being presented by the shoe.

I have witnessed more losses due to the shoe presenting back to back clumping, say five players-one or two bankers-then six or seven players, etc. Or the opposite with back to back bankers and one or two players and then another group of back-to-back bankers. And when that happens most all are wagering for the opposite side (non dominating side) to start its win and they forgo winning on what is being repetitive.
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I agree with your thoughts regarding events often clumping.
Last night I witnessed a shoe produce a clump of four Panda8 followed with a Dragon7(B=D7 in bold at the end). Each of the following P =Panda8: P BB P BB P BB P B=D7 . I do not recall ever in my life witnessing four P8 this close together though do occasionally see >=four in a shoe.

I seldom ever wager for a P8 but did catch the last two. I caught 5/6 of the Bs in this streak but pushed on that D7 (I didn't wager for the Dragon). Only 1 tie for the entire shoe. The previous shoe had 11 ties which is certainly high for a 6-deck shoe.



Continued Success,

[alrelax]

Lots of things come to mind.

Here is one that most all failed to wager on.  The verbiage was something along the lines of it's too early to streak, as well as the players will make up but later on.  Also everyone was amazed at the 4 fortunes 7s so close together. 

Hell, when it's happening, wager hard with positive progressions to the max.

[alrelax]

As well, this one comes to mind!!!

Unfortunately, most all fail to hit streaks, side wagers, etc., because they are not where the people expect them or desire them.  3 fortune 7s right at the end of the shoe.

And if I recall, those first two back to back ties in that streak of bankers and F7s were both naturals, so most everyone were convinced the cut back to player was coming in the next hand.

I have said it hundreds of times, DO NOT WAGER FOR WHAT YOU WANT, WAGER FOR WHAT THE SHOE IS PRESENTING.

[alrelax]

Here is another one for you.  Yes showed it before, but worth putting it here. 

The emphasis has to be on what the shoe is producing, not (NOT) what the people desire. 

Just think, a simply 2 unit positive progression and a continual pull down of the win. 

[alrelax]

Here are 5 Panda 8s and the shoe is only in the 50ish hands.  Still has about 25 more hands.  I think there was at least another 2 P8s.

[alrelax]

Here is another one with only 1 Panda 8.

The point being, when it is there, it is time to profit and profit handsomely.  There is no changing what the shoe is going to produce and present.  None, not a person's desire or what math stats are analyzed to be. 

And this is the shoe following the one I posted above with the 7 Panda 8s.  Look at the bottom of the board and you will see the, "Last Shoe Panda 8" was 7.  Point being, if you believed those Panda presentments would continue, you would give back your win money, etc. 

When it is there, it is there.  When it's not, it's not.