BetSelection.cc

Hi All,

I was tying up my hard drive and came across something I was working on last year.  I remember asking Victor if he could create a tracker for this, but not sure what happened after that.

Bellow you will find the instructions I put together at the time.
I hope this may be of interest to some of you :)

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This Bet selection method can be used for Dozens, Columns or both at the same time, the premises is that if a certain outcome occurs you look back to the last time that event took place and bet the outcomes that came directly after that event, you continue to follow the trigger outcomes till one of the following happen:

   
• You are at a new session high of +1 or +2
• A new trigger occurs, you continue to a new session high of +1 or +2

As soon as a new valid trigger appears you will start to play it immediately sometimes that could be directly after or when you just completed a sequence of plays for a +1 or +2 new session high.

Here is an explanation of all the triggers, and lets just talk about dozens for now but columns work exactly the same way.
We have nine triggers 11, 121, 131, 22, 212, 232, 33, 313, 323.

If last two unbroken spins produced 11 then that is a 11 trigger.
If last two unbroken spins produced 22 then that is a 22 trigger.
If last two unbroken spins produced 33 then that is a 33 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 121 then that is a 121 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 131 then that is a 131 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 212 then that is a 212 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 232 then that is a 232 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 313 then that is a 313 trigger.
If last three unbroken spins produced 323 then that is a 323 trigger.

Note: you may have noticed above I used the term "unbroken spins.." that referrers to the dreaded zero!!!.  For example if we have 202, that would class as a broken set of spins, and would not classify as a valid 22 trigger.

That's all the triggers we record and play off as a session progresses.

Now for an explanation of how we use the above nine triggers while we play our session.

As session progresses we record the dozen outcomes, 12323012 etc.

Triggers are marked in bold in the demonstration session, when we first start a session all we will be doing is mark the triggers as they occur, we only start placing bets once a new valid trigger has occurred for the second time, for example we mark a new 11 trigger, has that occurred before?  If yes, then we play the outcomes directly the after last 11 trigger, if no then we keep recording outcomes and triggers until we have a valid trigger to play off.

OK lets start our demonstration session, remember we are only playing the dozens in this session.


3
1
1 (mark 11 trigger here)
2
1 (mark 121 trigger here)
2 (mark 212 trigger here)
3
2 (mark 232 trigger here)
1
1 (we have new 11 trigger, mark it, play last 11 trigger outcome 2123.., bet D2)
2 (win +2, session high, no new trigger, stop and wait for new trigger)
1 (mark new 121 trigger, and play last 121 trigger outcome 23211.., bet D2)
1 (loss +1, mark new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 211.., bet D2)
1 (loss +0, we have 111, but do not mark a new trigger, bet D1)
1 (win +2, now we mark new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 11.., bet D1)
1 (win +4, session high, no new trigger stop, wait for new trigger)
3
3 (mark new 33 trigger, no bet, 33 trigger has not occurred in this session)
3
2
3 (mark new 323 trigger, no bet, 323 trigger has not occurred in this session)
3 (mark new 33 trigger, last 33 trigger outcome 3233.., bet D3)
3 (win +6 new session high, no new trigger so no bet)
3 (mark new 33 trigger, last 33 trigger outcome 33.., bet D3)
1 (loss +5, bet D3)
3 (win +7 session high, mark new trigger 313, no previous 313 trigger no bet)
1 (mark new 131 trigger, no previous 131 trigger no bet)
1 (mark new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 13332333.., bet D1)
1 (win +9, new session high stop and wait for new trigger)
2
2 (mark 22 trigger, 22 trigger has not occurred yet so no bet)
2
3
2 (mark new 232 trigger, last 232 trigger outcome 11211.. bet D1)
2 (loss +8, mark new 22 trigger, last 22 trigger outcome 2322.., bet D2)
2 (win +10, new session high, no new trigger stop, wait for new trigger)
2 (mark new 22 trigger, last 22 trigger outcome 22.., bet D2)
2 (win +12, new session high, no new trigger stop, wait for new trigger)
2 (mark new 22 trigger, last 22 outcome 22.., bet D2)
1 (lost +11, we now have a 221.. string, bet D2)
3 (lost +10, we now have a 2213.. string, bet D1)
2 (lost +9, we now have a 22132.. string, bet D3)
3 (win +11, new 323 trigger, last 323 outcome 3331.., bet D3)
1 (loss +10, bet D3)
1 (loss +9, mark new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 12223.., bet D1)
3 (lost +8, bet D2)
3 (lost +7, mark new 33 trigger, last 33 trigger outcome 13111.., bet D1)
3 (lost +6, bet D3)
2 (lost +5, bet D1)
1 (win +7, bet D1)
1 (win +9, new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 333211.., bet D3)
2 (lost +8, bet D3)
3 (win +10, bet D3)
0 (lost +9, bet D2)
2 (win +11, bet D1)
1 (win +13, new session high, no new trigger stop, wait for new trigger)
1 (new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 230211.., bet D2)
0 (lost +12, bet D3)
2 (lost +11, bet D3, we play 0 here because we have a 0 in our trigger string)
3 (win +13, bet D2)
1 (lost +12, bet D1)
1 (win +14, new session high, new 11 trigger, last 11 outcome 0231.., bet D3)
3 (win +16, new session high, no new trigger, stop wait for new trigger)
0
1
1 (new 11 trigger, last 11 trigger outcome 3011.., bet D3)
2 (lost +15, bet D3,we play D3 here because we have a 0 in the trigger string)
3 (win +17, new session high, no new trigger, stop wait for new trigger)
0
3 (this is a broken 33 trigger, we have 303, no bet wait for new valid trigger)
3 (now we have a valid 33 trigger, last 33 trigger outcome, 3211.., bet D3)
1 (lost +16, bet D2)
2 (won +18, new session high, stop and wait for new trigger)

When you are playing dozens and have a zero in the trigger string, we replace the zero with a D3, if we were playing columns and had a zero we would play C2, why?  Very simple if you look at the European wheel we have 26 & 32 on either side of the zero, D3 & C2. 

You will see examples of this in the demo session above.

When for example you have 1111 then you would have only two 11 triggers, like so  1111 outcome 11, new 11 trigger, bet based of last 11 trigger, next 111, no new trigger, next 1111 second 11 trigger, last outcome 11.., next bet D1, you will see examples of this in the demo session above.

That's it "Simple Trend Catcher for Dozens & Columns", is based on playing the outcome the last time a trigger occurred and play it in sequence, until either you are at a new session high, or a new trigger occurs and then you play that until a new session high or another new trigger comes along while you play.

Session buy-in, 20 units, or 40 units if playing both Dozens & Columns. A target of +5 to +10 is reasonable to aim for, don't be greedy be happy for small wins.

Thanks

malcop

Malcop,

  An interesting version of dozens and it appears to be worth taking a closer look at, if not for any other reason than to put it through its paces and detect any odd sequences that can be avoided.

  Hopefully I can carve out some free time to get some detail work on it done.

  Thanks for the idea.

  AD

Hi Adualy,


When I first started with this idea I only used 11, 22 & 33 as the triggers, all the rest came in later, I know remember why I wanted a tracker, because it was getting too complicated to play.


Also not a bad idea to treat 11, 121 131 as the same trigger, just think of the number in-between as a blip!  The same goes for 22, 212, 232 and 33, 313 & 323.


So you may just want to use three triggers 11, 22, 33 and introduce the rest later once you get used to the method.


Also the zero, maybe just ignore a zero, as far as tracking is concerned, so if you had 101 then you could still treat that as 11, up to you it depends on how you feel about the effect of zero's




Thanks


malcop

Hi All,


Bellow you will find two attachments, these were played slightly differently to the pdf I attached at the start of this thread.


When I first came up with this idea I only used three triggers 11, 22 & 33.


Also I only played a trigger until I got a win and stopped and waited for the next valid trigger.


The other six triggers were added later I suppose to get more bets, but not sure if they improved it or just made things more complicated.


Demo 001 Stats.


High +19
Low -10
End +16


Demo 002 Stats.


High +13
Low -10
End +12


Demo 001: Each trigger was played until I got a win then stopped and waited for another valid trigger.


Demo 002: Each trigger was played and win or lose I stooped and waited for another valid trigger.


The demo spins were taken from a very long live dealer session I played last month, I used 301 spins from that session.


No progression was used in the demo's results are all flat betting only!


Will using the other six triggers improve this bet selection, I really don't know, what I do know is just playing the 11, 22 & 33 triggers dose make play less stressful :)

If I have some spare time, will replay the same spins but using columns only.

Thanks


malcop

Hi All,


Here is the same sessions played on Columns only.


Demo 001 Stats.


High +17
Low - 25
End +4


Demo 002 Stats.


High +22
Low -8
End +20

Demo 001: Each trigger was played until I got a win then stopped and waited for another valid trigger.Demo 002: Each trigger was played and win or lose I stooped and waited for another valid trigger.

Flat bet no progression!


The zero's are a problem for me remember I said when playing Dozens and a zero appears in the string I'm playing I treat it as a Dozen 3, and when play Columns I treat it as Column 2.


If a zero comes between potential triggers like D1 0 D1 then I ignore this as a trigger, but maybe what would be better is just to pretend the zero never happened.


Only time will tell what is the best way to treat the zero's with the method.

One more thing I know I keep stressing flat betting, that is because I will not even look at a method if it needs a progression to show any kind of profit, I feel if you must use a progression it should be to improve profits not make a losing bet selection a winner.

For me progression should be a form of leverage, that you use to improve your end plus figure.

And because I'm mainly a flat better, I normally take my profits around the +5 to +10 mark.

Sorry to go on folks but those that know me know I am mainly a flat better only :)

Thanks


malcop

I forgot to mention this idea could be used for EC bets also, so if you was playing for Red or Black you just have two triggers BB or RR, then all you do is just play the same as the dozen & Column method.


Just look back to the last time the trigger show up and play the pattern until a win.

In my last post I told you that you could use the same concept on EC bets, I re-played the same 301 live spins, and here is the results.


EC Demo 001


high +8
Low -10
End +7


I only used two triggers BB & RR, but when I tried this a while back I think I also used ABA & BAB patterns.


This was just a quick demonstration how versatile this type of bet selection is.


Patterns repeat so why not try and use them :)


Thanks


malcop

Hi Malcop.
Interesting concept of yours which i have been playing around with back-testing using past spins from live play in B+M casinos only,looks VERY promising.....thank you.

Dino.

Quote from: Dino246 on August 19, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
Hi Malcop.
Interesting concept of yours which i have been playing around with back-testing using past spins from live play in B+M casinos only,looks VERY promising.....thank you.

Dino.

Hi Dino, Out of interest which way are you testing, I put a few different ways of using the triggers.

I have worked with your aug15 example,early days/nights on all this to date.

As you have stated,tracking ALL 9 of the triggers in the String in real-time,does create a challange !!

if that is the way to maximise profit to spin ratio from a time and motion point of view then so be it.

I have only ever played D/C,never numbers so this method of MATCHING 'could' be a much better 'earner' than playing against.

Great work.

Dino,


Thank you for at least trying it out and geting back to me, the more feedback I get the better, then I/We can see what triggers work best with the concept.


At the moment I'm looking at two modes of play.


Mode 1:


Just three triggers 11, 22 & 33


Mode 2:


The 9 triggers split into three groups.


Group 1: 11, 121 & 131
Group 2: 22, 212 & 232
Group 3: 33, 313 & 323


So when working with groups all you do is look back to the last time that group came out, and play accordingly.


The same rule applies you have to wait until a group has appeared for the second time before you can use it.



Thanks


Malcop

Malcop, tx for sharing this.
My question is:
after the trigger, do you suggest play thw whole string or just one shot, won or lost you wait for a new trigger? ...in your experience...

Hi Andrebac,


I suggest you try both and see which one you prefer.




Thanks


malcop

Hi Malcop.

In your Aug 15 example you have the following 2 strings,can you play both again,just to clarify?

2
1
1
1
1
1
3
3
3
2
3
3
3
3
1

If this concept can produce 18 units profit in 72 spins at £10 per unit in just over 2 hours then we must all test this to destruction or ourselves with it.....!!

To be continued.......

PS.

Are your spins REAL B+M or MICKEY MOUSE RNG ?

Dino.

Hi Dino,


I gave up playing RNG a long time ago.


I have attached a session I played tonight, 48 spins ended +17


I played both Dozens & Columns, the session ended Dozens +8 & Columns +9.


This session was played using one bet per trigger and putting the 9 triggers into 3 groups as I have described in earlier posts.

But I also play the other versions I mentioned in my previous posts, for example if only playing for Dozens then I will the method I described at the start of this thread, using either the three triggers or nine triggers put into three groups.


As of yet I'm undecided which way works best because they all have merit.

Understand this method can lose at times just like any other method, but so far for me it has been working out very well, when I came up with this last year I did not stop work on it because it bombed out, it was because I got involved in another project, put mine on the back burner and just forgot about it.


Will it hold up to millions of spins?  I don't know and to tell you the truth I don't care.  If it suddenly stops performing  well for me, and I can't fix it, then I will just stop using it.


I play this about 2 or 3 the times a day and go for 10 - 20 units per session depending on which mode I'm playing.


I'm only risking 20 units per session so a method that can give me back  50% or more of my session buy-in is good enough for me.


Don't get me wrong all methods/systems will lose at some point they have to, but what is more important is when you lose a session it should not be so bad you have wiped out all your hard won profits.


I never let myself get into the position where a few losing sessions could wipe out all my profits.  That is why I mostly play flat-bet or sometimes use a very gentle/flat type of progression.


Thanks


malcop

Malcop.

Having trouble opening your latest example file,states,dde error/file name could be too long.

Can you help ? !!

Cheers.
Dino.

Quote from: Dino246 on August 20, 2013, 07:07:32 AM
Malcop.

Having trouble opening your latest example file,states,dde error/file name could be too long.

Can you help ? !!

Cheers.
Dino.

Good Morning Dino,


I have re-compressed the file and re-attached it, see if you can open it now.


Thanks


malcop

Tried your suggestion.....no go.

Dino.

I noticed 4 other people had downloaded the file so maybe it is something local on your computer, PM me your email address and I will send you the file unzipped.  I had to zip the file because it was too large to attach.

Thanks for all the good work Malcop,problem sorted.

Will report results a.s.a.p.

Cheers
Dino.

At the moment my preferred play is the turning the 9 triggers into three groups like this:


G1 = 11, 121, 131
G2 = 22, 212, 232
G3 = 33, 313, 323


Fore example you are playing a session and a new G1 trigger is formed you look back to the last G1 trigger and play the result directly after the G1 trigger.


You have two ways of using these triggers one bet win or lose wait for the next valid trigger, or play the result string directly after the trigger and stop playing it if you get a win or a new valid trigger if formed then you start playing that.


Try both and see what way you prefer.


Whenever I finish a session I always go over the session and reply it, so if the session I just played I used the one bet per trigger mode, I then see how it would have turned out if if I had used the continues play for a trigger.  if I used the continues mode I see what would have happened if I had just played for one bet per trigger.


One thing  I noticed is that the difference between the two in end profit is normally 5-10 units.


So continues play you may make 5-10 points more profit but you will place almost twice as many bets in the process.


For example today I played a session on both Dozen & Columns ended it at +10 units, playing one hit per trigger.  Replayed the session with continues play and it would have ended +15   


Thanks


malcop

Thought I would share with the session I just finished playing this morning.


I played for a total of 190 spins on both Dozens and Columns using the 1 hit per trigger with the triggers split into three groups.


Here is a breakdown on how it played out.


Dozens: High = +3, Lowest -15, End -4
Columns: High = +28,  Lowest -11, End +27


Combined Dozens and Columns: High +24, Lowest -22, End +23


The lowest risk to my session buy-in was -2


At spin 35 I reached +10 this is the point I normally quit the session but it was my first session of the day, so decided I would play on and see how things turn out.


Spin 89 I got to +23 now I'm thinking to myself "Time to quit Philip" but for some reason chose against my better judgment to play on.


From Spin 90 to 145 my balance went all the way down to +1, now I'm thinking "See serves you right, you know better than that should have quit while you was ahead!"


From spin 146 to 189 things turned around and I got back to +24 with a +1 profit from my previous high!, wow I thought 100 extra spins for +1 extra profit  :-[  should have just listened to your inner voice!


Anyway played one more spin and a zero came out and at that point I finally got the message QUIT!!!!


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I find playing both Dozens and Columns is the best way to go, in this session the Dozens performed poorly and the Columns were on speed, this I find happens quite a lot, one side compensates for the others poor performance.


Now I'm going to go and have a shower!


Take care all talk soon.


malcop


BTW I have attached the session for anyone interested, the sheet plays for you automatically.  All you have to do is input the spin numbers on the Main Sheet you will be directed when and where to place your bets.

If anyone want's a Blank master sheet just let me know and I will put one up on here.

     

OK Back from my shower and you know how thoughts run through your head, and I was thinking how would I play this method on both Dozens & Columns at a B&M Casino.


You see it's my birthday at the end of this month and I'm planning a trip to my local B&M so how could I play this without my tracking sheet?


I came up with this, all you will need is a piece of paper.


First of all a reminder on the groups and how they are formed.


I prefer to use letters instead of numbers.


Group 1: AA, ABA, ACA
Group 2: BB, BAB, BCB
Group 3: CC, CAC, CBC


See bellow how the triggers are formed as a session progresses.

AA G1 trigger.
AAA no new trigger
AAAA now we have another G1 trigger
AAAAB no new trigger
AAAABA now we have another G1 trigger
AAAABAA now we have another G1 trigger
AAAABAAC no new trigger
AAAABAACB no new trigger
AAAABAACBC now we have a G3 trigger
AAAABAACBCB now we have a G2 trigger


So AAAABAACBCB would give us the following triggers

G1, G1, G1, G3 & G2


So for this explanation I will just concentrate on Dozens and you will see how easy it would be to keep track of both at a B&M casino.


As  the groups form you mark them on your paper.


The first group to form is G1


Now what we do is wait for the outcome, we get a C so on our paper we put next to the G1 C. The C will be the bet you will place when the G1 trigger is activated.


This is a few groups with the


G1 C
G3 B
G2 A
G1 ( now we have two G1 triggers we can start to bet look for the last time we had a G1 trigger, it was a C)


That bet lost to an A so we update the last trigger to show that.


G1 C
G3 B
G2 A
G1 A


now we get a new trigger G3,  according to our tracking the last time we had a G3 trigger the outcome directly after that was B, so we place a bet on dozen B and win.


Update your tracking with the last result for group trigger G3



G1 C
G3 B
G2 A
G1 A
G3 B


And keep doing this as your session progresses.


1) Mark new triggers.
2) Look back to the last time that group trigger was active and play the result directly after the trigger.
3) Update the group trigger you just played ready for when you will have to refer to it later on.


Note: you need two of the same trigger before you can place a bet.



It's so simple no stress involved, and would be no problem to keep track of both Dozens & Columns in a B&M casino :)


Thanks


malcop

thanks for sharing malcop
one question, what if after a trigger we get a zero? do we dicard that trigger or record what happens after zero?
or if ie we have AA0 then we don't bet the next time we have the AA trigger and wait for A,B or C to come after AA for our next trigger?

Quote from: soggett on August 21, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
thanks for sharing malcop
one question, what if after a trigger we get a zero? do we dicard that trigger or record what happens after zero?
or if ie we have AA0 then we don't bet the next time we have the AA trigger and wait for A,B or C to come after AA for our next trigger?

Ah the zero's at the moment I ignore the zero in the triggers so A0A is still a AA G1, but if we got AA0 and I was recording the outcome for the G1 trigger I would record it as G1 C.



You could instead wait for the outcome directly after the zero, so AA0B so record G1 B.


In my tracking sheets the zero is ignored when a zero comes up so A0A is a G1 trigger, but if a zero comes directly after a trigger like AA0 then the sheet records C as the bet to be placed when that trigger is activated, and for columns if we had KK0 then the sheet will record L to be used for the trigger bet.


The reason I did that was when you look at the European wheel on the opposite sides of the zero we have 26 & 32 which for dozens and columns 26 & 32 are C & L.


It all depends on how important you think the zero is and how you treat it.


The best thing to do is see for yourself which way you prefer.


Thanks


malcop

Malcop,
I started playing it with EC's, it seems to work quite well, at a first attempt.
I'll keep you updated...

Quote from: andrebac on August 21, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
Malcop,
I started playing it with EC's, it seems to work quite well, at a first attempt.
I'll keep you updated...

Hi andrebac,


I'm glad to hear trying this on EC's seems to be working out for you, I have haven't done much with the EC idea just wanted to see if it could be done.


Let me know how you get on with it.


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malcop

yest.nite I played 10 bac shoes from mines
I applied your system with 2 main groups:
group A: PP, PBP as triggers
group B: BB, PBP as triggers
results:
1) 6, min -3, max 6
2) 1, min -1, max 2
3) 3, min -2, max 4
4) 0, min -1, max 3
5) -4, min -5, max 1
6) 2, min 0, max 5
7) 6, min -1, max 7
8) -1, min -3, max 3
9) 5, min -1, max 5
10) 6, min 1, max 6
...not bad flatting bets

Hi andrebac,


Nice results  :thumbsup:


I have played a lot of Baccarat in the past and anyone that has played Baccarat will understand getting +3 - +5 flat betting is very good.


Each shoe is roughly 60 hands per session and over in less than an hour, so it's all about the bet size.


When I play roulette I set my win goal at approximately 50% of my buy in. 


This morning I played my first session of the day, the first 4 bets placed lost so I prepared myself for a long session, but by spin 46 I was up +10 so quit happy with what I got :)


Thanks


malcop

thanks for your answer malcop

did a few quick test runs and it performs quite ok for now

gonna look at the baccarat too

so you say a BR of 20 units is ok - still valid or do we use bigger BR cause you had a few -20's back there?

Quote from: soggett on August 22, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
thanks for your answer malcop

did a few quick test runs and it performs quite ok for now

gonna look at the baccarat too

so you say a BR of 20 units is ok - still valid or do we use bigger BR cause you had a few -20's back there?

Yes I found 20 for each side enough, no point in chasing a bad session, the good sessions make up for any bad ones that may come along.


I was just running some tests with the EC mode and that seems to work out OK.  The only issue I had was what to do about the zero, when the zero came up I put the same bet back up again.  Played 300 spins flat-bets had a high of +14, Low -5, end +9.


I know I don't need to say this but I'm going to anyway, please don't play this for real until you are confident with how it performs for you.


Guess what I'm trying to say is prove it for your self first, and if you are happy and want to move on with real money, just play for very small stakes to start with.


Thanks


malcop

From my experience it's worth set a stop loss betting; I'd place mine at -2, then wait for a paper plus before restart live betting, this avoid that a bad run, yes sometimes they happen, kills your bankroll.
anyway I'm running the test flat betting. oscar's grind work well with this BS.
just my suggestions...

...4 more shoes played:


1) 6, min 0, max 6
2) -2, min -5, mx 2
3) 7, min 0, max 7
4) -4, min -5, max 1

How many hands in the shoes your testing from?


The drawdowns are low, is this with the stop-loss you talked about?

no, the testing was made simply flat betting, with no stop-loss.

This little 'thread nudge' is for all the new members of the forum.

It would be a shame if this gem remained buried.

I would like to thank esoito for giving this thread a " nudge " and malcop for the system.

I have just tested a quick 650 live Dublin Bet spins in the tracker and it gave a grand total of + 3 units for both dozens and columns combined. Maybe I've just been unlucky.

I am aware there are tweaks to be done to improve this result such as andrebac's 2 chip stop loss and bet again when paper shows a positive and others but still very disappointing as I really liked the positive vibes I was reading in the thread.

The trends when you get them are decent but they don't seem to happen that often, so with that in mind what do you think about a tracker that incorporates lines as well so that we have 18 sets of 12 numbers to monitor instead of 6,this way we can cherry pick the best trending ones.

Would appreciate other test results/opinions.

Cheers.

"I have just tested a quick 650 live Dublin Bet spins in the tracker and it gave a grand total of + 3 units for both dozens and columns combined. Maybe I've just been unlucky."

I look at it this way, klw -- it's a matter for rejoicing!

Why?

Because you've managed to convert a set-in-cement -2.77 disadvantage into a +3 advantage.  (Even 0 is an advantage if you think about it...LOL)

Yes, applying tweaks could bear fruit.
And your idea of incorporating lines as a form of diversification is inspired!  :thumbsup:

Hopefully other testers will jump aboard.  (Perhaps an RX coder might feel inclined to have a go, too.)

I was playing baccarat like this for a while some time back.
I was using a mild "shoe by shoe" type progression with it and had some steady wins with only mild losses occassionally.
Is anyone still playing this way? If so how is it bearing and what kind of mm are you using?