I don't know if you are aware of this system, anyway it's widely known as one of the best systems ever invented on 50/50 chances.

We bet whatever we want a given chance and everytime we'll get 1 unit profit, we collect the winning and we erase our betting plan.

If after betting 7 hands we won't get any profit, we'll have those occurences:

-  Being behind of 1 unit;

- Being behind of 3 units;

- Being behind of 5 units;

- Being behind of 7 units.

Anytime we'll get a deficit for the subsequent series of 7 hands we'll bet the deficit plus 1 unit.
Anytime we'll erase the previous deficit we start over betting 1 unit. Anytime we won't be able to recover the deficit we'll add one unit to the total deficit.

Notice that it's a mathematically proven fact that per every 7 hands series bet, we'll get a 72.66% propability to win.

Actually among the 128 occurences bet on each of the 7 hands series, 93 dispositions are winning and just 35 are losing ones. So the WL ratio is 93/35 = 72.66% and this is true per every 7 hand series wagered.

So after each 7 hands bet series the probability to win will be as follows:

- after  7 hands = 72.66%

- after 14 hands = 93.52%

- after 21 hands = 98.23%

- after 28 hands = 99.52%

- after 35 hands = 99.87%

So we'll notice that after a five cluster of 7 hands losing series the probability to lose is just confined at a 0.13% value.

If we can follow this strategy over and over, we'll cross the line where the losing event will be almost insignificant compared to the winning part, always considering the SD effect.

This is a mathematically sure plan to beat the house since sooner or later we'll get the favorite probability working on our favor (let's think about the theorically unfavourable WLLLLLL  or LLWWWLL or many other end losing pattern working for us).

Obviously and devised like that, such system needs a very large bankroll to bear the fluctuations of the game.

So we might reduce the betting raise amount by properly registering the possible favourable and negative patterns, knowing their actual SD features.

After all, we couldn't expect many more losing series after some consecutive 27.34% probability events had come out in short terms. Expecially if considered after any 7 hands consecutive series.

Naturally and at the same time we should care about those "easy" winnings coming up on long consecutive series, a sure signal that things won't be so profitable for us.

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Interesting method asymbac......so if you lose the fist 7 bets in a row...do we now start betting 8 units ?

If we are losing 3 units on the first series of 7 bets, do we now start betting 4 units ?

This can get very expensive as you said because if you ever lose  14 bets in a row  then you would be down 7 units on the first series plus 56 units on the second series ( assuming losing 8 units a hand for the 7 hands ) for a loss of 63 units ( 56 + 7  )....which would break most bankrolls.

Only a matter of time before you lose 14 hands in a row, either in one shoe or two consecutive shoes ( like losing 5 hands at the end of one shoe and losing the first 9 hands on the next shoe )

If after betting 7 hands we won't get any profit,
we'll have those occurences:

-  Being behind of 1 unit;

- Being behind of 3 units;

- Being behind of 5 units;

- Being behind of 7 units.

Notice that it's a mathematically proven fact that per every 7 hands series bet, we'll get a 72.66% propability to win.


thus 27.34%lose.
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-  Being behind of 1 unit;
thus bet 1unit again flat...


and next seven hand.
thus 27.34%lose.

-  Being behind of 1 unit;=1u

- Being behind of 3 units;=3u

- Being behind of 5 units;=5u

- Being behind of 7 units.=7u
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behind of 3 units;

thus bet 1unit again flat...


and next seven hand
thus 27.34%lose.



-  Being behind of 1 unit;=3

- Being behind of 3 units;=9

- Being behind of 5 units;=15

- Being behind of 7 units.=21

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- Being behind of 5 units;
thus bet 5unit again flat...


and next seven hand

thus 27.34%lose.


-  Being behind of 1 unit;=5

- Being behind of 3 units;=15

- Being behind of 5 units;=-25

- Being behind of 7 units.=-35
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- Being behind of 7 units.

thus bet 7unit again flat...


and next seven hand


-  Being behind of 1 unit;=-7

- Being behind of 3 units;=-21

- Being behind of 5 units;=-35

- Being behind of 7 units.=-49
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and if we take the worst possible loss.
then...

-  Being behind of 1 unit;=-7behind

- Being behind of 3 units;=-21behind

- Being behind of 5 units;=-35behind

- Being behind of 7 units.=-49behind
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-  Being behind of  ;=-7behind x7=-49ulosses

- Being behind of  ;=-21behindx7=

- Being behind of  ;=-35behind=

- Being behind of  .=-49behind=


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This simply mean, the worst streaks is FOURTEEN losses.

The last straw,=
a win after 13losses, will recoup your losses.

You risk your previous "after 7bet losses", for seven more bet.

simply mean, if after all 7bet losses, where you bet 1unit,
you bet 7 unit for next seven bet, flat.

Interesting. ..... 

I think if you lose 7 in a row you have to bet 8 units a hand. Then if you lose the next 7 in a row, you will lose 56 units for a total loss of 63 units.

Losing 7 in a row happens all the time so if you are betting $ 100 a hand you now have to bet $800 a hand.

So if you lose 14 in a row you lose $ 6,300 betting $ 100 a hand ( plus commission ).

You can lose the 14 in a row over two shoes.....such as lose the last 6 hands of the first shoe and lose the first 8 hands on the second shoe.

You only make 1 unit when you close out a series but lose 63 units when you lose the 14 in a row.  So you have to win 63 series in a row to break even.

Probably a good method to play with an online casino and bet only $1 a hand so the most you can lose        is      only $ 63.

Hi and thanks for the interest.

The beauty of this system is that many 7 hand patterns getting a cumulative loss (as WLLLLLLL or WLLWWLL or LWWLLLL) now become winners and of course every cumulative 7 hand winning pattern remains a winning one.
In a word we add some losing patterns to our winners.

Yes, after a 7 unit losing pattern, next bet will be 8 (7 + 1) and so on.

Waiting before betting could be a sensible option, trying to take advantage of the RTM effect or of normal deviations.

as.

 



 

If Im reading this right, the lets say you have

L  -1
L  -1
W +1
L  -1
L  -1
L  -1
W  +1   Net loss of -3

Now start betting 4 units a hand ( Deficit of 3 + 1 )

Next series

W  +4
L    -4
L   -4
L    -4
W +4
L  -4
L  -4  Net loss 0f -12  units     (   Total loss so far= 3 + 12 =-15 units )

Now bet 16 units a hand ( deficit of 15 units + 1 unit )

L  -  16
L  -16
W  + 16 W
W  + 16
L  -16
L  -16
L  -16    = net loss of -48 units.  Total loss now = 48 + 15 = 63 units  ...and we haven't even lost 14 in a row.

And next bet is 64 units ( $ 6400 a hand if betting $ 100 a unit )

Wins and losses as described above unfortunately happen all the time in baccarat.

Quote from: tdx on December 09, 2015, 11:37:25 PM
If Im reading this right, the lets say you have

L  -1
L  -1
W +1
L  -1
L  -1
L  -1
W  +1   Net loss of -3

Now start betting 4 units a hand ( Deficit of 3 + 1 )

Next series

W  +4 here you are +1 reset to new 7 series

L    -1
L   -1
L    -1
W +1
L  -1
L  -1 
L  -  1   net loss 5, bet 6

L  -6
W  + 6
W  + 6 reset


L  -1
L  -1
L  -1   
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Wins and losses as described above unfortunately happen all the time in baccarat.



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I started to fix you W/L string where I started in BLUE and then just continued it out.  There was not enough W/L left to finish but as it stands at the current 3L in arow you are at -1 overall

Quote from: tdx on December 09, 2015, 11:37:25 PM
If Im reading this right, the lets say you have

L  -1
L  -1
W +1
L  -1
L  -1
L  -1
W  +1   Net loss of -3

Now start betting 4 units a hand ( Deficit of 3 + 1 )

Next series

W  +4
L    -4
L   -4
L    -4
W +4
L  -4
L  -4  Net loss 0f -12  units     (   Total loss so far= 3 + 12 =-15 units )

Now bet 16 units a hand ( deficit of 15 units + 1 unit )

L  -  16
L  -16
W  + 16 W
W  + 16
L  -16
L  -16
L  -16    = net loss of -48 units.  Total loss now = 48 + 15 = 63 units  ...and we haven't even lost 14 in a row.

And next bet is 64 units ( $ 6400 a hand if betting $ 100 a unit )

Wins and losses as described above unfortunately happen all the time in baccarat.

Hi tdx!

Nope.

The first sequence is correct, LLWLLLW = -3 units. Ok so far.
Now you bet 4 units (4 + 1) because your aim is always focused to erase any previous deficit and getting 1 unit profit.

Next series is Wxxxxxx, so this first winning hand fully recover our previous deficit. So we collect our +1 winning (minus the vig if applied) and we restart the process from zero, obviously betting one unit again.

I continue the sequence as you posted. After W (not considered now) we got LLLWLL and we must consider the next hand of the subsequent series to complete the 7 hand pattern. It's a L.
So our series will be like LLLWLLL = -5 unit.

Therefore now our next bet will be 6 (5 + 1).

Next series considering your hands as consecutive is LWWLLL... (we removed the first L from the final series as was included in the previous sequence.

So now we get -6, +6, +6. End of the game.
Again we won another unit, so now we'll have a +2 overall profit.

And so on...

In the series you posted we played hands containing 12 Losses and only 6 Wins, yet we got a profit.

Differently to a simple martingale, here we can benefit from the fact that per every series attacked we'll have a 72.66% probability to win even though we bet 50/50 propositions.

Think that we might utilize a 9, 11 or even 13 series of attack, raising the theorical probability to win at sky levels with every related consequence, both positive and negative.

as.


 

Quote from: Big EZ on December 09, 2015, 11:58:29 PM

I started to fix you W/L string where I started in BLUE and then just continued it out.  There was not enough W/L left to finish but as it stands at the current 3L in arow you are at -1 overall

Exactly!

as

ASMGuy  thanx for the info.....I'll look it over. 

If you have figured out the fail safe method, hopefully you can post it.

Very old and very very risky system.....
You're right:it's one of the best on even chances.
BKR required:3 times the max bet allowed at a given table.
Gap between max bet and minimum bet:at least 2000 times(not easy to found);only Montecarlo Casino in Europe.
I know some players completely ruined with that.
I suggest  absolutely not to play it.

Quote from: roversi13 on December 10, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
Very old and very very risky system.....
You're right:it's one of the best on even chances.
BKR required:3 times the max bet allowed at a given table.
Gap between max bet and minimum bet:at least 2000 times(not easy to found);only Montecarlo Casino in Europe.
I know some players completely ruined with that.
I suggest  absolutely not to play it.

100% agreed. you cannot risk 6400+ to make a 100. that's beyond insane and you will go broke...

Of course this is an unplayable strategy, yet it was brilliantly conceived.
And surely almost every baccarat player will go broke anyway, it's just a more or less diluted matter of time.

as.   

AS i Think this is a brilliant method - it is in the same line of thinking i have.
You can see the SD when you divide the events into seven with overrepresented events and underrepresented events.

Look at this 12 events contra 1 event and 12 events contra 1 event and 12 events - that is 5.51 SD - thas has not happen after several millions of simulations.

If some one can divide any events and cover it with the staking plan with a benchmark of 5.04 SD - then you have a pretty good chanse not losing at all.

Cheers