Long runs on EC.

Ralph · February 21, 2013, 03:01:04 AM

Sam!
Do you still have access problem? I can not access BV, just demo as we can do without log in. I can log in but not open any game in fun or real mode. The stop at "Please wait" and nothing happens.

TwoCatSam · February 21, 2013, 03:08:30 AM

Hey, Ralph

Today I bought a software called "Hide My behind". It let's me log on from hundreds of cities throughout the world. I could not log in to BV, so I went to France. No problem at all.

And that history is working for me.

Sam

Ralph · February 21, 2013, 04:11:01 AM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 21, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
Hey, Ralph

Today I bought a software called "Hide My behind". It let's me log on from hundreds of cities throughout the world. I could not log in to BV, so I went to France. No problem at all.

And that history is working for me.

Sam

Could you not log in at all, or could you not open the games. I can log in see my balance, and real play history. I can not see the history for fun mode. I can not open any game in fun or real. I think I can withdraw my money.

I do not think the problem is on my side, the computer seems to be OK.

TwoCatSam · February 21, 2013, 04:17:29 AM

Ralph

I had the same problem all day. But France is working very nicely. AND THE FOOD IS GOOD!!

Sam

Ralph · February 21, 2013, 04:37:59 AM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 21, 2013, 04:17:29 AM
Ralph

I had the same problem all day. But France is working very nicely. AND THE FOOD IS GOOD!!

Sam

I have to contact them, as it is some money in game account which is not possible to withdraw or move unless I can open the games.

Ralph · February 21, 2013, 04:49:19 AM

Bv support wrote they have techical problems, and they work hard to solve it. I should soon run as usual.

TwoCatSam · February 21, 2013, 08:39:28 AM

I bet it's those Chinese hackers!

Ralph · February 21, 2013, 10:57:20 AM

Bv is on now!

578 new spins.

Total is now 1724 spins and Total plus is 8.45. Not very slow, while it is the lowest chip value and EC.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 09:51:17 AM

I have tried d'Alembert and Oscars Grind on Ec:s and none is very safe. I have had a session of d'Alembert running for weeks and was stopped at a astronomical down. Oscars grind has about the same problem on EC chances.

If we use that we can know of the EC, what we can expect as reasonable outcome, is we will have streaks of the same. I have tested that here using reversed martingale, and it shows to be better than the previous.

It is anyhow not really good. Some players will feel uncomfortably to parlay a lot of times. If we look for a way which has very small chance to lose, and accept a low winning I think we can make a better method. It is probably tried before, very few things are left.

We can make a method which reset the bets as soon we are on plus, in order to avoid higher bets.

We can use the chops to cancel WL and then adjust the progressions to real losses, and so save on the bets size.

That's mean we should not increase the stakes after one loss, rather two, next spin can cancel the loss.

That's mean too, we should not reduce the bet on the first win.

We start with 1 unit and if we win we end this session.

If a loss, we bet one again, if win we end the session as break even.

If second too is a loss, we bet two units, If a win it's a break even.

If a loss on two it is a loss total of four.

We bet two again and if we win we have two minus so we bet two again and if win we are break even.

I short we add a chip after two losses in a row, and take away a chip after two win in a row, and reset the stakes
as soon we are not back.

We can not have a high win rate, but have very good chance to end up on plus. It may take time.

The easier way to follow the game is to use runs, and bet on the last outcome.

I have done some playing, using this, and I will try more, and publish the coming one, the old ones is history and a test should be done in play.

Some screenshots will come.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 10:06:06 AM

This is just about 50 spins, but shows how slow it can be. The highest was 4 units, about 15 in drawdown.

Plus 2.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 10:21:10 AM

A 50 long session, this got plus 9. Max four in a bet. Small drawndown.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 10:39:35 AM

50 spins and plus 20.
This won more than the previous, it won not more due to the method, rather the bet selection, which is follow the last. It happens to be fewer chops, that's the only reason.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 11:15:09 AM

50 more spins. plus 13 units. I run this in shorter periods, as I think the method can be used on a land casino, trying to win about 100 units in an evening.

As always nothing is sure in the game, use only the money you can possible lose, or play fun.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 01:38:17 PM

I have some thoughts about the variance on EC bets. It is the thing we have to try to control, on a NZ wheel it is just about that, stay on the right side is needed if we want to win. We have two common ways of doing it, that is progressions and study the deviation.
None of them is easy and powerful. I will test to combine it, so the first is to use the variance, which is to use the history. And some kind of progression to enhance the chances to correct a drowndown. The progression will be used spare, and a longer run will be used to try to catch up.

I have done 542 spins and used more than one chip in about 50 spins, highest 6 chips.

Ralph · February 22, 2013, 03:42:46 PM

1197 spins done, the result is plus, but not much, as at BV we must bet every spin, waiting for a deviation cost some bets where we should be waiting. (It is possible to make mutual, but not liked by the casino).

119 unit plus. Some progression done, as that the only way to hit harder when it is time to bet, as all spins were played.