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Started by ignatus, January 06, 2013, 02:34:37 PM

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ignatus

Well, now. To present this system I can say for sure it's a long term winner. Why? The only thing we know for sure, that will happen all the time is repeating numbers

I did some experiments with hotnumbers and repeating numbers. But recent numbers in spin history is even hotter than hotnumbers. So, this is a fact. Based on this fact I've constructed a very simple system that has very high hitrate. Both on RNG and Live. It's througly tested and works amazingly well. I don't know what to say more? I'm just suprised no one has played this way before

Always bet the last 9 numbers in spin history. As a new number comes bet that one, and remove the oldest in spin history. This way we catch all repeters. Using a 9 number progression 1.1.1.2.2.3.4.5.7.9.12.16.22.30.40.55. (As a number hit, reset progression.) As repeaters happens very frequently you don't have to go very far in the progression.

I advice using some software to keep track of the numbers. Spinmaster or Roulette Xtreme. I could be done manually writing down numbers (playing live in a real casino)

I wish everybody luck, and it's time to make some serious money.

Cheers

Drazen

Have you counted how many short lasted, "longterm winning systems" have you come up with by now? You should apply for Guinesses book in that subject, I am sure you will be the winner for this year  :nod:


Will you ever learn that one way progressions lead to sure catastrophic losses longterm?  (Unless you are JL)


I wonder how come isn't clear to you by now that you can't overcome ANY possible maximum losing streak in this game you can think of, betting on anything on the table with one way progression?? That way table limits are set for  :upsidedown:


In your case considering this, just  one of situations you would lose is if you would have 26 unique numbers in a row. Is it possible?You don't know.. but now take a guess...

Best

Drazen
Common sense has become so rare it should be classified as a superpower.

Ralph

Posted many times for many years! I have "invented" it as well.  I am using seven numbers now, as the hit indicates it may be hotter, I add a chip on a hit.  Do not progress fast, a RFH will come.


The pay out is so a very soft progression if any.

ignatus

Quote from: Drazen on January 06, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
just  one of situations you would lose is if you would have 26 unique numbers in a row. Is it possible?You don't know.. but now take a guess...



I never saw that happen.


Well, you could use a more careful progression +1 for each 3rd spin. That would last much longer. It would require 2 hits close to eachother. But repeats happen all the time. So, I don't see any reason to worry. This IS a long term winner.  :D

Ralph

This is not bad! But it will not work always. I have had methods working for month and got good winning. Take care at the end it can be much heavier.


It will looks like the casino knows, and react accordingly to sack you, but it is the nature of the game.


It is easy to see, every spin can be a loss, and as number can cluster losing spins can.



If a method works for 10000 sessions it can if not care is taken be a loser at the end.

ignatus

I will play this until +2000 units. (live) I'm +1500 now. Then I'll play for real. I'm convinced this IS a long term winner, and I see no reason to worry. Repeats happen all the time. This is a universal law. It cannot change.

soggett

Quote from: Ralph on January 06, 2013, 03:01:01 PM
I am using seven numbers now, as the hit indicates it may be hotter, I add a chip on a hit.  Do not progress fast, a RFH will come.

The pay out is so a very soft progression if any.

this is not a bad idea
tested it a bit and it did quite good
do you play it manually or with a bot?
how are your results with that? Is there a thread on it here?

@ ignatus
I hope you reach + 2000  and much more
repeats do happen but nothing in roulette is guaranteed
i saw 19 uniques numbers come up in a row a few times - that gets heavy on the progression real fast
will try to find them and see how your system would perform


edit:
I found one session that would eat your BR:

14
11
30
1
28
13
27
5
34
36
12
13
26
30
7
26
24
9
31
15
4
32
11
20
6
3
21
17
18
12
22
35
9
3
17
2
32
11


that would bust your 16 step progression
and I just started looking
sorry dude
start after the second number 26, from then it takes 18 spins to win

shogun

Hi ignatus,
I take my hat off to you for your work rate and confidence.
This is a good system but it is not a long term winner. The progression will kill you. I have tried this system with 3 numbers all the way up to 12 numbers. 9 numbers does well as does 7. Also had some good results with 4.
Please keep testing and do not play for real money just yet.
Trst me i have done this system to death and at one point i thought like you - How can it not win?

If you want me to run some spins with my bot for you to help testing i will. I can give you a text file with all the results.

Ralph

Quote from: soggett on January 06, 2013, 03:45:58 PM

this is not a bad idea
tested it a bit and it did quite good
do you play it manually or with a bot?
how are your results with that? Is there a thread on it here?




I use mostly the bot, the script is in the bot. 


I got   a large win six month ago partly using this.  IT CAN LOSE AS WELL stop at 1000 units, the recover from 400 is very common, and 100 a session is the target.


Use fun  mode until you have confidence and know the method.

Superman

Ignatus, this has been done many times, I have also done it in the bot and tried from 1 number up to 18, 24 numbers, it gets out of hand, I just ran the test bot again for you to see what can happen, see the attached file, just over 1000 spins and the bank went down -38940 next progression was 1635 on each of the 9 numbers, that's Euros 389,40 in 1 cent bets!!

PS scroll down the file to where I TABED the results in for you to see
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

soggett

Quote from: Superman on January 06, 2013, 04:23:55 PM
Ignatus, this has been done many times, I have also done it in the bot and tried from 1 number up to 18, 24 numbers, it gets out of hand, I just ran the test bot again for you to see what can happen, see the attached file, just over 1000 spins and the bank went down -38940 next progression was 1635 on each of the 9 numbers, that's Euros 389,40 in 1 cent bets!!

PS scroll down the file to where I TABED the results in for you to see

superman, can you run it with the progression Ralph mentionted? flatbett until hit then if not in plus +1 on all numbers, and so on and so on
maybe it makes a difference?

@ Ralph
thanks, i think it is smart to play like that and go up after a hit :thumbsup:

Superman

@ sogget, done mate, forget this method and move on, my advice only of course
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Ralph

Quote from: soggett on January 06, 2013, 04:33:57 PM

superman, can you run it with the progression Ralph mentionted? flatbett until hit then if not in plus +1 on all numbers, and so on and so on
maybe it makes a difference?

@ Ralph
thanks, i think it is smart to play like that and go up after a hit :thumbsup:


I add just to the number hitting, not all seven. Try to catch the hottest.

soggett

Quote from: Ralph on January 06, 2013, 04:48:07 PM

I add just to the number hitting, not all seven. Try to catch the hottest.

oh, sry then, I missunderstood


@ superman

thank you very much for your effort

ignatus

Quote from: shogun on January 06, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Hi ignatus,
I take my hat off to you for your work rate and confidence.
This is a good system but it is not a long term winner. The progression will kill you. I have tried this system with 3 numbers all the way up to 12 numbers. 9 numbers does well as does 7. Also had some good results with 4.
Please keep testing and do not play for real money just yet.
Trst me i have done this system to death and at one point i thought like you - How can it not win?

If you want me to run some spins with my bot for you to help testing i will. I can give you a text file with all the results.


Yes, that would be nice. I thought playing now with +1 progression for each third spin. It will take longer to play but that progression will last much longer.


Progression line 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,7,8,8,8,9,9,9,10,10,10.... etc. Playing with 0.5 chips on DoublinBet that would be a 60 step progression before reaching table limit. If progression goes too far, afew close hits and you'd be recoverd.


I'm not sure a random number generator can be used to say this is not a working method (Superman). At real tables, in real play repeats will happen, +1 progression will save you, even if repeats will not happen for 60 spins  ??? That's very unrealistic