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Civil & Criminal Topics / Gotta Love This One!
Last post by alrelax - Yesterday at 04:08:35 PMFlorida man sues NC casino after $500K in winnings withheld, instead receives a lifetime ban.
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/florida-man-sues-nc-casino-after-500-winnings-withheld-lifetime-ban/RSXWM4TSP5C35MQHFVY63RO3VI/#
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/florida-man-sues-nc-casino-after-500-winnings-withheld-lifetime-ban/RSXWM4TSP5C35MQHFVY63RO3VI/#
#2
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - July 16, 2025, 02:30:25 AMBaccarat is a dynamic probability game where each hand is somewhat related to the past and when it seems it doesn't is because too many (unlikely) coincidental results happen and we've seen that just one hand could transform a more likely line into an unexpected one.
Obviously and since we can't rely upon a verified math advantage, our action must be approximated by considering more likely situations (ranges) and the asym/sym tool is one of the best to assess more probable ranges happening along the course of a shoe.
Suppose we have devised the asym/sym nature of some patterns of interest and a shoe went as (W= first winning attempt and L= anything else):
L-L-W-L-L-W-W-W-L-W-L-W-L
Even if W<L, we find bettable spots where things are suppsoed to change. Notice that W isolated events are 3:1 than W clusters, yet isolated L events are equal to L clustered events. Finally no L streak went past than two.
Another shoe:
W-W-L-L-L-L-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-L
Now W>L (11:
yet the above propensity to get short L clusters went down the drain.
So what seemed to fail at the previous shoe (W clusters, short L sequences) now becomes a kind of opposite world.
A third shoe:
W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-L-L-L-L
W/L is 9:7, W clusters come out by the same amount than W isolated events, isolated L events/clustered L events ratio is 3:1.
More shoes:
W-L-W-L-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-W-L
L-L-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L
W-L-L-W-W-L-W-W-W-L-W-W
W-W-W-W-W-L-W-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L
L-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-W-W
W-L-L-W-W-L-L-L-W-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L
W-L-W-L-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L
L-W-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L
W-L-L-W-W-L-W-L-L-L-W-L-W-L-L-W
L-L-L-W-L-W-W-L-L-L
W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-L-W-L
W-L-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-W
L-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-W-L
W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-W-W-L-W-L
W-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-L
L-L-W-L-W-L-L-W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-L
W-W-L-L-W-W-L-W-L-W-W-L-L-W
W-W-L-L-W-W-W-L-L-L-W-L-L-L-L (11.037)
Now pretend to get fictional various players registering conseutive losses at different W/L patterns, for example:
a- First player will bet toward W clusters, getting W isolated events as enemy;
b- Second player will bet toward L clusters, getting L isolated events as enemy.
Greater will be the negative deviations before betting (especially when coming out at both players' action) higher will be our edge as a moderate/strong deviation is kind of insensitive of the possible negative permutations.
Remember the the best way to get an edge without risking our bankroll is by flat betting.
That's just the first winning attempt, next week we'll see about the second winning (or recovering) step.
as.
Obviously and since we can't rely upon a verified math advantage, our action must be approximated by considering more likely situations (ranges) and the asym/sym tool is one of the best to assess more probable ranges happening along the course of a shoe.
Suppose we have devised the asym/sym nature of some patterns of interest and a shoe went as (W= first winning attempt and L= anything else):
L-L-W-L-L-W-W-W-L-W-L-W-L
Even if W<L, we find bettable spots where things are suppsoed to change. Notice that W isolated events are 3:1 than W clusters, yet isolated L events are equal to L clustered events. Finally no L streak went past than two.
Another shoe:
W-W-L-L-L-L-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-L
Now W>L (11:

So what seemed to fail at the previous shoe (W clusters, short L sequences) now becomes a kind of opposite world.
A third shoe:
W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-L-L-L-L
W/L is 9:7, W clusters come out by the same amount than W isolated events, isolated L events/clustered L events ratio is 3:1.
More shoes:
W-L-W-L-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-W-L
L-L-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L
W-L-L-W-W-L-W-W-W-L-W-W
W-W-W-W-W-L-W-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L
L-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-W-W
W-L-L-W-W-L-L-L-W-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L
W-L-W-L-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L
L-W-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L
W-L-L-W-W-L-W-L-L-L-W-L-W-L-L-W
L-L-L-W-L-W-W-L-L-L
W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-W-W-L-W-L
W-L-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-W
L-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-W-L
W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-W-W-L-W-L
W-W-W-W-L-W-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-L
L-L-W-L-W-L-L-W-L-W-L-W-W-W-W-L-L-W-W-L-L
W-W-L-L-W-W-L-W-L-W-W-L-L-W
W-W-L-L-W-W-W-L-L-L-W-L-L-L-L (11.037)
Now pretend to get fictional various players registering conseutive losses at different W/L patterns, for example:
a- First player will bet toward W clusters, getting W isolated events as enemy;
b- Second player will bet toward L clusters, getting L isolated events as enemy.
Greater will be the negative deviations before betting (especially when coming out at both players' action) higher will be our edge as a moderate/strong deviation is kind of insensitive of the possible negative permutations.
Remember the the best way to get an edge without risking our bankroll is by flat betting.
That's just the first winning attempt, next week we'll see about the second winning (or recovering) step.
as.
#3
Slot Machines Forum / Hand Pay W2-G Reporting Raised...
Last post by alrelax - July 16, 2025, 02:25:57 AMAn element of the OBBBA that hasn't garnered nearly the same media coverage as it relates to the gaming industry is "Section 70433 C — Application to Reporting on Remuneration for Services."
The text increases the tax reporting threshold on gambling winnings to $2,000.
The minimum win amount to initiate a W-2G form becomes effective Jan. 1, 2026. It is then increased annually based on inflation.
https://www.casino.org/news/one-big-beautiful-bill-has-silver-lining-for-gamblers/
The text increases the tax reporting threshold on gambling winnings to $2,000.
The minimum win amount to initiate a W-2G form becomes effective Jan. 1, 2026. It is then increased annually based on inflation.
https://www.casino.org/news/one-big-beautiful-bill-has-silver-lining-for-gamblers/
#4
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - July 15, 2025, 09:00:00 PMBTW, best luck to Michael Mizrachi, WSOP Main Event finalist and aiming for the prestigious bracelet and $10 millions first prize.
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#5
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - July 15, 2025, 08:57:32 PMFirst winning attempt
If we use two bets towards the asymmetrical formation of certain events, we'll see that it won't so easy to win the first step several times in a row.
The problem is magnified at the very first attempt of any shoe, up to the point that we consider it just a pure gambling spot, so no getting us any possible edge.
Things begin to change when we've collected a fair number of 1st attempts vs anything else situations as average statistical distributions help us to define whether 1st spots should be more likely or not to show up.
As always our attention should be directed toward those 1st attempt shapes (isolated or clustered) and naturally being particularly focused about their absence.
In a word about their range of apparition per every shoe dealt.
Since the bac production is asymmetrical by any means, we'll expect asymmetrical shapes even at the infinite pattern considerations we could register.
It's very unlikely but we could find ourselves to face a shoe completely empty of first winning attempts (meaning that patterns are either a mix of asymmetrical events at the second step or symmetrical).
more later
as.
If we use two bets towards the asymmetrical formation of certain events, we'll see that it won't so easy to win the first step several times in a row.
The problem is magnified at the very first attempt of any shoe, up to the point that we consider it just a pure gambling spot, so no getting us any possible edge.
Things begin to change when we've collected a fair number of 1st attempts vs anything else situations as average statistical distributions help us to define whether 1st spots should be more likely or not to show up.
As always our attention should be directed toward those 1st attempt shapes (isolated or clustered) and naturally being particularly focused about their absence.
In a word about their range of apparition per every shoe dealt.
Since the bac production is asymmetrical by any means, we'll expect asymmetrical shapes even at the infinite pattern considerations we could register.
It's very unlikely but we could find ourselves to face a shoe completely empty of first winning attempts (meaning that patterns are either a mix of asymmetrical events at the second step or symmetrical).
more later
as.
#6
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - July 15, 2025, 07:57:55 PMHi KFB, welcome back!
*I will elaborate more later on some of his triggers. He tracked several triggers/ like me felt "gaps between" events are important to track(e.g. The event gaps' contraction and expansion.)
Yes, please, it would be quite interesting!
I like the term "Event gaps' contraction and expansion"
It could be someway intended as the Alrelax "sections" or my "ranges".
as.

*I will elaborate more later on some of his triggers. He tracked several triggers/ like me felt "gaps between" events are important to track(e.g. The event gaps' contraction and expansion.)
Yes, please, it would be quite interesting!
I like the term "Event gaps' contraction and expansion"
It could be someway intended as the Alrelax "sections" or my "ranges".
as.
#7
General Discussion / Re: Unfair gambling portion of...
Last post by KungFuBac - July 15, 2025, 01:36:49 PMHi All,
Good thread that all gamblers need to monitor. Often, small changes lead to larger changes(against the player), at later dates. In other words if politicians are allowed to take and inch they will return to take a foot,..etc.
A Bac comrade had sent a link to that the following day after it came out.
The following link at bottom addresses the same issue/ "I think" is an update to what your article addresses:
'One Big Beautiful Bill' Has Silver Lining for Gamblers as Certain Tax Reporting Thresholds Increase
https://www.casino.org/news/one-big-beautiful-bill-has-silver-lining-for-gamblers/
Have a good week,
Good thread that all gamblers need to monitor. Often, small changes lead to larger changes(against the player), at later dates. In other words if politicians are allowed to take and inch they will return to take a foot,..etc.
A Bac comrade had sent a link to that the following day after it came out.
The following link at bottom addresses the same issue/ "I think" is an update to what your article addresses:
'One Big Beautiful Bill' Has Silver Lining for Gamblers as Certain Tax Reporting Thresholds Increase
https://www.casino.org/news/one-big-beautiful-bill-has-silver-lining-for-gamblers/
Have a good week,
#8
Albalaha's Exclusive / Re: cryptocurrency and me
Last post by ADulay - July 15, 2025, 01:42:52 AMMy reply is self deleted.
I just saved myself a lot of grief for sure.
AD
I just saved myself a lot of grief for sure.
AD
#9
Alrelax's Blog / Tips on Casino Tipping Policie...
Last post by alrelax - July 14, 2025, 11:47:19 PMArticle written by; Dennis Conrad.
A Las Vegas casino recently changed its tip policy for its table game dealers. The individual dealers now keep half of the tips that they personally receive from players, and the other half go into a tip pool that's shared equally among all the dealers. I'm not sure how that policy change is working out.
Having been a tipped casino employee decades ago, I certainly have some thoughts on the topic. I was always in the top 2% of tip earners in whatever casino job I had, because I always gave great service and made sure my customers had fun. And I hated whenever I had to share my tips with fellow employees who had bad attitudes, put in minimum effort, and didn't give two hoots about the customer.
There are three perspectives on tip policy: those of casino employees, casino management, and (the often-forgotten perspective) casino customers.
Good casino employees always prefer to keep their own tips. Bad casino employees (and those on the slower shifts and in low-limit sections) usually prefer pooling tips and being carried by the better tip earners in the busier sections.
Casino management typically prefers casino employees to pool their tips. It gives them more flexibility in scheduling without charges of favoritism by tip-earning employees. It creates more accuracy and standardization in tip disbursement and accounting, especially with government agencies. And truth be told, it allows management to keep a cap on how much in tips an employee can make, as in many situations tipped employees keeping their own tips can earn more than supervisors or managers, creating a disincentive for good employees to progress into management.
It may seem that casino customers don't really care what the casino's tip policies are, but trust me, they do. They enjoy tipping employees who provide them a fun exceptional experience. They're disappointed when they learn that their generous tip to a great employee might have to be split 20 ways (or more), especially when it goes to the "lumpy" employee who ignored them earlier.
My fervent belief is that every casino employee everywhere should personally keep their own tips. Very few now do. Casinos claim it creates scheduling, accounting, and perception-of- fairness issues. They say that some employees will "rough hustle" customers for tips, that they'll have a bad attitude on slow tip nights or, conversely, have a great tip night and want to go home early. Or sneer at customers who don't tip much or not at all. I say get over it. One of the best things casino management can do is connect tipped employees better to the fruits of their labor and be better paid for providing better experiences to guests.
That's not to suggest that changing a longstanding casino tip-pooling policy into a "go for your own" one will be without its challenges. But here's a step-by-step plan on how to do that and what you can expect when you do.
Let all your tipped employees know why you want to change the tip-pooling policy and why you think that would be better for them, the customers, and the casino.
Ask for the employees' input and buy-in for the changes. Have them help you identify all the potential challenges to the changes and how best to overcome then. Answer their many questions.
Be sure to make it clear that the new policy will have zero tolerance for employees who rough hustle customers for tips or who treat non-tipping guests any less well.
By whatever objective metrics you have for measuring who your best employees are (amount of tips should be a new criterion!), use them to allow your best employees preference to choose their shifts, hours, or work sections where tips will be generated. Add a system for improving employees to move up in their "tipping hierarchy" and declining employees to move down. Create a training program for all employees on how to generate more tips through great service and improved focus on guests.
Communicate to customers what the new tipping policy is and why it's being implemented. Ask for their feedback on how it's working and if they see anything that could be improved.
Post signage throughout the casino where employees have tip-earning opportunities. My message would be something like, "XYZ Casino encourages our customers to tip generously for employees who provide truly great service."
Monitor the new "keep your own" policy diligently and make needed adjustments as necessary.
Now, for those of you who say this doesn't seem fair (what's not fair about your best employees earning the most tips?), or it's too tedious to implement and supervise, or the owners, tribe, or senior management would never allow it to happen, I can only say look at the results. And here's what will happen.
Top tipped employees will earn a lot more money. Lagging employees will either have to accept making less tips, step up their game, or find another job where providing great service isn't such an absolute and enforced mandate. Great employees from competitors' casinos or other service businesses will want in, addressing that never-ending challenge of finding good employees in a tough labor market. Morale will go up. Guest service will dramatically improve and great guest interactions will become the norm, not be the exception. All by letting your employees keep what they have fairly, diligently, and skillfully earned.
Then if "no tax on tips" becomes more than a pipe dream or an empty promise, well, that will become the icing on the proverbial tipping cake.
NOTE: I have written numerous times about tipping, both waitresses and dealers. I know the game well and have experienced exactly what the author of the above article wrote about countless times, by both exceptional employees as well as the lackadaisical and plain bad ones. There is one Indian property I play at regularly and their tipping policy is, that dealers keep 75% of their tips and 25% goes into a shift pool to split. There is a notable difference in attitudes without a doubt, no questions about it when compared to the other regional properties without such a policy.
A Las Vegas casino recently changed its tip policy for its table game dealers. The individual dealers now keep half of the tips that they personally receive from players, and the other half go into a tip pool that's shared equally among all the dealers. I'm not sure how that policy change is working out.
Having been a tipped casino employee decades ago, I certainly have some thoughts on the topic. I was always in the top 2% of tip earners in whatever casino job I had, because I always gave great service and made sure my customers had fun. And I hated whenever I had to share my tips with fellow employees who had bad attitudes, put in minimum effort, and didn't give two hoots about the customer.
There are three perspectives on tip policy: those of casino employees, casino management, and (the often-forgotten perspective) casino customers.
Good casino employees always prefer to keep their own tips. Bad casino employees (and those on the slower shifts and in low-limit sections) usually prefer pooling tips and being carried by the better tip earners in the busier sections.
Casino management typically prefers casino employees to pool their tips. It gives them more flexibility in scheduling without charges of favoritism by tip-earning employees. It creates more accuracy and standardization in tip disbursement and accounting, especially with government agencies. And truth be told, it allows management to keep a cap on how much in tips an employee can make, as in many situations tipped employees keeping their own tips can earn more than supervisors or managers, creating a disincentive for good employees to progress into management.
It may seem that casino customers don't really care what the casino's tip policies are, but trust me, they do. They enjoy tipping employees who provide them a fun exceptional experience. They're disappointed when they learn that their generous tip to a great employee might have to be split 20 ways (or more), especially when it goes to the "lumpy" employee who ignored them earlier.
My fervent belief is that every casino employee everywhere should personally keep their own tips. Very few now do. Casinos claim it creates scheduling, accounting, and perception-of- fairness issues. They say that some employees will "rough hustle" customers for tips, that they'll have a bad attitude on slow tip nights or, conversely, have a great tip night and want to go home early. Or sneer at customers who don't tip much or not at all. I say get over it. One of the best things casino management can do is connect tipped employees better to the fruits of their labor and be better paid for providing better experiences to guests.
That's not to suggest that changing a longstanding casino tip-pooling policy into a "go for your own" one will be without its challenges. But here's a step-by-step plan on how to do that and what you can expect when you do.
Let all your tipped employees know why you want to change the tip-pooling policy and why you think that would be better for them, the customers, and the casino.
Ask for the employees' input and buy-in for the changes. Have them help you identify all the potential challenges to the changes and how best to overcome then. Answer their many questions.
Be sure to make it clear that the new policy will have zero tolerance for employees who rough hustle customers for tips or who treat non-tipping guests any less well.
By whatever objective metrics you have for measuring who your best employees are (amount of tips should be a new criterion!), use them to allow your best employees preference to choose their shifts, hours, or work sections where tips will be generated. Add a system for improving employees to move up in their "tipping hierarchy" and declining employees to move down. Create a training program for all employees on how to generate more tips through great service and improved focus on guests.
Communicate to customers what the new tipping policy is and why it's being implemented. Ask for their feedback on how it's working and if they see anything that could be improved.
Post signage throughout the casino where employees have tip-earning opportunities. My message would be something like, "XYZ Casino encourages our customers to tip generously for employees who provide truly great service."
Monitor the new "keep your own" policy diligently and make needed adjustments as necessary.
Now, for those of you who say this doesn't seem fair (what's not fair about your best employees earning the most tips?), or it's too tedious to implement and supervise, or the owners, tribe, or senior management would never allow it to happen, I can only say look at the results. And here's what will happen.
Top tipped employees will earn a lot more money. Lagging employees will either have to accept making less tips, step up their game, or find another job where providing great service isn't such an absolute and enforced mandate. Great employees from competitors' casinos or other service businesses will want in, addressing that never-ending challenge of finding good employees in a tough labor market. Morale will go up. Guest service will dramatically improve and great guest interactions will become the norm, not be the exception. All by letting your employees keep what they have fairly, diligently, and skillfully earned.
Then if "no tax on tips" becomes more than a pipe dream or an empty promise, well, that will become the icing on the proverbial tipping cake.
NOTE: I have written numerous times about tipping, both waitresses and dealers. I know the game well and have experienced exactly what the author of the above article wrote about countless times, by both exceptional employees as well as the lackadaisical and plain bad ones. There is one Indian property I play at regularly and their tipping policy is, that dealers keep 75% of their tips and 25% goes into a shift pool to split. There is a notable difference in attitudes without a doubt, no questions about it when compared to the other regional properties without such a policy.
#10
KungFuBac / Re: 10-Day 10-Casino Four-Stat...
Last post by alrelax - July 14, 2025, 12:34:27 PMGreat job on your trip. Absolutely!
And in reference to the non stop talking player. Yes in deed! Know it well!
"I saw a narcissistic player increase what appeared to be a $15k-17k buy in to just over 40k(twice). Then, departing the table with only 3k—4k. He incessantly claimed expertise in numerous subjects and frequently placed wagers, often verbally stating the outcome of the next hand to those at the table(He was equally right and wrong)." And more what you wrote regarding him......
There are players that actually wholeheartedly believe their unrealistic and impossible theories, such as: "OMG, this guy would not stop talking about his Bac prowess et al expertise. He had all kinds of crackpot theories on Bac. He once told us the casino arranges the cards to beat players that wager only Bank (& why he NEVER wagers B). Then, a couple hands later he was wagering on Bank". And of course, the players I have witnessed repeatedly behaving the same way, when they lose they say the exact same thing, when they win—they either cite the casino didn't set the cards up or they figured out how to beat the casino, etc., etc.
There is a huge difference between verbal camaraderie and discussion and what you wrote about here.
Oh yes, please shut up so I/we can think a bit....thought I was the only one experiencing this, should have known better!
And in reference to the non stop talking player. Yes in deed! Know it well!
"I saw a narcissistic player increase what appeared to be a $15k-17k buy in to just over 40k(twice). Then, departing the table with only 3k—4k. He incessantly claimed expertise in numerous subjects and frequently placed wagers, often verbally stating the outcome of the next hand to those at the table(He was equally right and wrong)." And more what you wrote regarding him......
There are players that actually wholeheartedly believe their unrealistic and impossible theories, such as: "OMG, this guy would not stop talking about his Bac prowess et al expertise. He had all kinds of crackpot theories on Bac. He once told us the casino arranges the cards to beat players that wager only Bank (& why he NEVER wagers B). Then, a couple hands later he was wagering on Bank". And of course, the players I have witnessed repeatedly behaving the same way, when they lose they say the exact same thing, when they win—they either cite the casino didn't set the cards up or they figured out how to beat the casino, etc., etc.
There is a huge difference between verbal camaraderie and discussion and what you wrote about here.
Oh yes, please shut up so I/we can think a bit....thought I was the only one experiencing this, should have known better!