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Quote from: alrelax on May 02, 2018, 04:22:17 PMUpdate list, not complete, others are within my writings, but I am updating some:Additions and Reductions, on 3 card draws. As soon as one side begins to get additions, particularly the player side and the banker side is reduced by its 3rd card—be alert for that event to continue. Once it happens a 2nd time in a row—particularly within the first half of the shoe or the middle section, it might favor the continuance of doing that numerous times. Likewise a reduction to the Players side and the banker winning with the first 2 cards or the third card that increases. However, IMO and experience the first one is usually stronger overall and continues longer.6/7's & 8's/9's. Without anything else, I have found that 1 point wins and 1 point losses for both hands, tends to lend itself to the worst rationalization of what the next hand will bring, more often than not. As well as any other numbers that prevail and lose this is the worst that brings total randomness, continuance and any other chain of events that almost no one can profit off of.Naturals-alternating. An event exists to be exploited when alternating naturals appear frequently. Naturals have a huge tendency to 'WOW' the players and they convince themselves that the side just got 'strong' and aggressively wager the same side that the natural just prevailed on. However, naturals are frequent and have a tendency to bounced or alternate back and forth for a short event more often than not, especially when the '-' or '+' is close together.Naturals. When one side is producing naturals over the other side's 6-7 or 8's and winning—it is an event that can be exploited frequently. Meaning, for example, P has 6 and B has 7, then P has a N8 and B had a N9, etc., or the opposite. Fortune 7's (3 card Banker winning 7's, 40:1). Zero to low ties. Within the first 10 hands. And hands 16-23. Those are the most frequent events when the shoe produces the F-7 hand. Frequently shoes have 1 or 2 F-7's. Some shoes have none. If a 3rd F-7 does appear, generally there is a 4th. 5 and 6 F-7's are a bit infrequent or rare but do occur. Or, should I say you will not generally see that in every other shoe or every third shoe, etc. By the way, the reason there are more F-7's in the beginning of the shoe than elsewhere and on a more frequent basis is the number of cards in the shoe of course. Frequently there are many 10's that form the first 3 or 4 cards dealt and then a larger card reducing the players side 'under 6' or remaining at 6 and drawing an Ace through a 7 to make the 3 card 7 on the Banker side, etc. F-7's and the next hand 'cut'. The highest amount of the F-7 appearing hands will 'cut' to the Players side with the upcoming hand to be dealt.Panda 8's (3 card Player winning 8's, 25:1). Panda 8's will appear a norm of 3 to 6 times. Panda 8's appear frequently in the beginning of the shoe in multiple more than F-7's generally will by far. Panda 8's will also appear in clusters (repeating themselves in a shorter hand-span) with greater frequency than F-7's generally do. Panda 8's appear with less consistency within certain clusters of hands than F-7's but with a greater appearance of anywhere in the shoe from the beginning to the end. Panda 8's also with great frequency tend to 'cut' to the Banker with the following hand to be dealt after the appearance of a Panda 8. -10/+10/+20. Frequently the total count will hover around '-' or '+' 10 somewhere between hand 15 and midway or so. And then favor the deficit side in smaller hit rates for its attempt to "catch-up". It happens and happens repeatedly. Much rarer an event, one side will continue to +20 and continue to rise. Infrequent by far. I have only witnessed a handful of shoes be able to provide the + side that was already well over +15, say +17 to +20 or so and then produce a streak on top of that. Depending on how far into the shoe it is, the deficit side usually (USUALLY) makes a pretty good attempt to "catch-up" to the other side. The key thing in this event as I have found, is the deficient side will usually 'catch-up' in a slow grind by not allowing the + side to streak or repeat as it was doing or presenting, previously. Depending on the hand of the shoe, I have done extremely well and won larger wagers based on these events siding with the '-' or the '+' of a side to win or lose. Equaling Out. The highest numbers of shoes will equal out in how many winning hands each side ended up with and if not equal, within 3 to 5 of each other as next most favorable. An event to be exploited along the shoe after the first 1/3rd of the shoe, many times. If not, after the midway or 60% point. Another easy exploit that comes along frequently is when it is within 1 or 2 of each other. Example, 27-28, then 28-28, then 28-29, then 29-29, then 30-29, etc. That event to me has won many a large wager, the same as a streak of any one side continuing—when it is there, it is there without reason, comparison or definitively being able to define the reason why. ½ Way to End of Shoe. More often than not, when the first half of the shoe was 'strong', frequently repeating B's and P's and other distinctive continuing trends that formed, the second half is one to be extremely careful of it continuing. Sure, great if it does. But when you play long enough, this is one of the easiest and most profitable events that can be exploited big time for it to be almost the opposite of the first half. Alternating & 2's. No rhyme or reason, nothing I have ever found that will point to the successful and continued outcome of chops and/or 2's. If they appear within a section they can be exploited as it is an event that frequently happens.Players Side Repeating Within Beginning/First Section. Players repeating hands in any form of clusters have a frequent tendency to appear within the beginning of the shoe, in the first section. Meaning, 3 + Players with a frequent 1, sometimes 2 Bankers and each time the winning hand is Players it repeats with 3 + occurrences. This kind of section is frequently followed by a section of 1's and 2's in various configurations when the first section losses its Player dominance stance, frequently around the 15-19th hands. Sections & Turning Points. The card or board needs to be visualized into 'sections and turning points'. There are usually 4 of them easily identifiable within a shoe. There might be 3 in the extremely weak or very strong shoes and a possibly of 5. Following 'waves' and the 'sections' makes it easier to follow the flow of cards and the presentments many of the times. Following the 'waves' and attempting to wager heavier within the middle of them, is my key to increasing my wins with heavier wagers rather than all too often wagering at the very end of any weak, strong or continuing neutral presentments happening. The key to using it while it is happening, is to identify a new section and with a multitude of other quickly rationalized out thoughts, find yourself within the start or the middle of a presenting 'wave'. Sections Identified. The sections with their turning points will reflect the 'waves' of the shoe. The sections are basically, one of three things. 1) Weak; 2) Strong; and 3) Neutral. Baccarat shoes will produce those three series of events in a random order. However, the shoe will generally have many consistencies which will represent 'weak' or 'strong', patterns/trends/clusters, etc. For sake of a 'non-arguing/non-challenging' definition, the 'weak-strong-neutral' clusters which I put into 'sections' appear in random presentations without being repetitive according to any one thing. However, numerous factors when present, have proved them to myself with frequency that is noticeable and identifiable as I have described within the above paragraphs. How long will the 'clusters' last? Unknown. From a few to numerous. Weak. 'Weak' is a representation of the most prevalent events that happen within a shoe of baccarat, usually. 'Weak' can be the traditional 1's or 2's or say 1's followed by a 3 repeating side. 'Weak' can be a situation where say the Player had 3's and 4's to the Bankers 1, each time the Banker beat the Player. Thus, "The Banker is weak". Or, say the shoe produced 4 Banker runs of 6 to 9 and 3 Player runs of 5 to 7 with a 3 repeating Banker. Then there was a turn to presenting 1's and 2's. Thus, "The shoe got real weak". Or, the Player's 3rd card consistently reduces them to zero or near zero total point value and the Bankers are winning with the first 2 cards or adding up to 7-8-9 total value with every 3rd card pulled. Thus, "The Player is weak". Strong. 'Strong' is a representation of the third most prevalent events that happen within a shoe of baccarat, usually. 'Strong' can be the traditional streaks and runs of either Banker or Player in consecutive order, one after the next. 'Strong' can be a situation where either side, Banker or Player, consecutively produces series or sections of winning hands in multiple. 'Strong' can very well be a section of alternating hands, a continuous 'chop-chop' of alternating Bankers and Players for many times. 'Strong' can very well be a section of 'doubles' or 'pairs' that are produced side-by-side in a continuous result for 6 or 8 or 10 times, etc. 'Strong' can be a series of 1's-2's-3-3-2's-1's, or many other things along those lines. 'Strong' can very well be where a deficient side lost +10 or even +15 or more times and then began to catch-up and equal out the deficiency it was holding. 'Strong' can be where either side is adding point value with every 3rd card drawn for many successive hands in repeating shoe presentment. Neutral. 'Neutral' is a representation of the second most prevalent events that happen within a shoe of baccarat, usually. Neutral happen repeatedly throughout the shoe in many ways. The most obvious is the +10, -10 or +20 situations with the 'total running' count. The shoe will frequently, very frequently 'equal' out, meaning the deficient side will catch up and then balance out. See, 'Equaling Out' in the above paragraphs.Consistent. 'Consistent' is when the shoe is producing presentments that are holding a repetitive pattern, that replicates a several to numerous previous hands, whether those hands lost or won. Consistency is one of the easiest things to spot in an upcoming wave about to happen or one that is happening.Inconsistent. 'Inconsistent' is an event that occurs, not quite rare, but with a lot less frequency than weak/weakness.Dominant. 'Dominant is the same as strong and consistent events that occur.Singular. 'Singular' is an individual event or 1's, that occur.Multiple. 'Multiple' is repeating, dominant and strong events that occur.Frequent. 'Frequent' is the same as strong events that occur. Rare. 'Rare; is the same as inconsistent events that occur. What so many players, regardless of their experience fail to recognize are the identifiable events I touched on here. Oh yeas, they do after they are presented and history of course. That method gives them their fuel and energy to continually label the game as guessing and luck because when they attempt to use that presented information as the sole basis for wagering, the wagers are not within the 'wave'. As well, so many people believe baccarat goes only two ways with its presentation, which are attempted to be identified. 'Strong', which they label only as streaks and runs and we all know how that goes. And secondly, with the 'weak' meaning they interpret 'weak' as being related to chop-chop or possibly the presentments proving 'non streaks', etc. Baccarat can be frequently identifiable with the correct vision of a player that has the correct frame-of-mind coupled with other emotional, judgement and physiological issues being present or absent.
QuoteBy chance do you have any math to backup your ideas? It looks interesting, but I don't quite see how the math could possibly prove that it will provide an edge. Mike Shackleford's calculations based on counting bac in general seem to contradict much of what you've written above. I'm afraid that the edge just isn't there.Best of luck,Xander
QuoteAs well in closing it would be beautiful if you would just state what your definitive mathematical and statistical Edge has proven and provided you in the amount of wins, cash and profits, as well as the definition as to what that edge is, so you can make your contribution to the board and allow other players to profit the same way that you are claiming or say that you have or did in the past. But I have yet to read that and you have yet to post that unless I'm missing it and if I'm missing it, please post it for everyone else to profit off of which you defend that you so, and claim. Thanks
Quote from: Xander on May 06, 2018, 07:56:53 PMIn roulette my edge is 10 to 50% edge. Method is vb and biased wheels.
Quote from: XDotNet on May 21, 2018, 07:42:34 PM......Additions and Reductions, on 3 card draws. As soon as one side begins to get additions, particularly the player side and the banker side is reduced by its 3rd card—be alert for that event to continue.......This is an interesting phenomenon to be aware of .... We've all had stretches where the bet we choose just keeps reducing and getting beat. I just never really thought to be aware of it.It's also interesting because, this is something that you would only see after playing 1000's of shoes and being observant. It's one of those intangibles that only come with experience. I'm going to start keeping an eye out for reductions..... interesting.
Quote from: AsymBacGuy on April 09, 2018, 06:19:45 AMHi Al!Snow? I told you several times to move to South Nevada or, better yet, to South Arizona. Nonetheless you keep living on the ugly side of US. Good universities there, but very bad weather tough.Of course I'm joking, still I'm trying to get you on the right side of US. :-)as.