Being Ellis's bitch boy is a rough life.

Ellis has no shame. He has been doing this stuff for a long time. His U2Hi is just another version of his failed
"twister" system. The man is a crook.

FYI he advertises his U2Hi as averaging 6 units per shoe....no try 1/2 a unit a shoe. And that's with only a 100 shoe sample.

What a joke.

HAHA

Now the few BTC members that are left on the forum are trying to convince Ellis to sell them his latest greatest grail at a discount because they already purchased his other grails....lol

You idiots at BTC don't understand Ellis is making his monthly nut off of you. If his grail systems were so great he could make all the money he needed playing them. And please don't say he does this because Ellis is too old to go the casino. BS. What about online casinos?

Trust me, if there existed baccarat systems that actually did what Ellis say they do, I wouldn't leave the casino. Too ripe.

Keep the scammers hungry don't buy his stuff.

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 08, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Confused-since you are a member there what is the private forum like? Do many people post there and show their successful shoes and help others out?

Oops, I didn't really answer you questions did I?
There are usually just a handful of members that post on the private forum. As far as posting shoes, that always a waste of time in my opinion. The posting shoes is that they are always played after the fact. Try posting a shoe here on this forum. What do you get? Every wanker and his brother stating that they made easy money on such an easy shoe....yeah right. Ellis and his lackeys are always the Kings of showing you how to play AFTER the fact.

So to answer you question, the forum is mostly a ghost town, with a few "know-it-alls" thrown in.

Quote from: Whiskeypete on March 08, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Confused-since you are a member there what is the private forum like? Do many people post there and show their successful shoes and help others out?

My BTC name is different than my name here, just FYI. The modus operandi for the BTC is Ellis sells his latest system that makes all kinds of promises to beat any and all baccarat games and then the forum spends the next months or years trying to tweak it so it can actually do what Ellis promised in the first place. MDB is no exception. The MDB video with Keith and other members "discussing" how to play MDB is typical of what you'll find on the forum.

Ellis used to teach that you can't win playing a mechanical system but now teaches you can. Go figure.

The guy is a con artist in the highest sense. He is able to con smart people time and time again when they should know better.

My advice to you is not to fall for his BS.

I hope nobody here will fall for the flavor of the month from Ellis Davis. Its complete nonsense. I should know, I'm a member there.

Don't join MDB is a rip off. But then again so is NOR, as well as 4D, as well as everything else that crazy man has sold to the public as the answer to you baccarat riches.

Its all stuff.