I had hand test this for 4000spins real roulette, at the end hit just within math expectation, but 4k, too small to conclude.
Thus, will very grateful if anyone here could test with their computer.
Thanks in advance

Hi, I am keen to know whether this dozen strategy is a stable or unsteady selection.
If this a stable selection, we could easily win a few unit before 300spins.

Anyone could help, by testing flatbet a few thousand spins, and just post the charts here, as many chart possible.
Thanks in advance.

Dz1=dozen one, and so on...
Double dozen bet.


If last spin= dz1, then bet dz1 and dz2. (Win or lose, then...)
If next spin=dz2, then bet dz2 and dz3 (win or lose, then..)
If next spin=dz3, then bet dz3 and dz1 (win or lose...)
If next spin=zero, take loss, then bet the previous indicator dozen.
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eg.
1st= dz1, (  bet dz1 and dz2)
2nd=dz3, (  bet dz3 and dz1)
3rd= dz2, (bet dz2 and dz3)
4th=zero!, =lose,
5th=ignore zero, (bet dz2 and dz3)

Zero will be regard an unfortunate losss, then ignore, and bet as if zero not there.

Thank you so much, Nickmsi, for your charts,  and thought, appreciate them.

I have zero knowledge about 2group, 3group strategy,
May you please teach me.
Thanks in advance!

From the ftl, and ftdbl charts,
(Albeit only 2charts, thus can't make a conclusion,)
We can see ftl, ftdbl flat bet line snaking up and down,
from but only 2charts, we could make temporary loose assumption, that these are
STABLE SELECTION.
simply mean , after a thousand bets, every spins risked, we lose ONLY at the HE!
Thus with flatbet, and variance random avoidance strategy, we could win constantly.
Hope Nickmsi, could post as many possible ftl, and ftdbl charts,
Thus we have better understanding about whether they are really stable.
Thanks

After 300+ spins,
A number or 2 or more,
will hit more than 10 times.
Before these numbers hit , common sense tell us,
they must went through 123456...hits before reaching 10th.

Thus we must have a method to catch these hottie...
eg,
Bet till 333, only,
wait for 111th spin, a few will hit over 5hits, we may risking to bet those numbers,
Stop bet a particular number after 35bet without hit, resume after that number hit again.
Thus we stop risking more br when the number decided to stop at 5hits.
And if a number becomes very hot, it keep hitting before every 35th spin bet,.
Anumber may stop at 5th hit, 6th hit, 7, 8, 9, 10...
What you think?

After reading some @turbo's in forums, I want to post my 1cents.
After 37spins.
2repeats=100% hit
3repeats=may or may not hit
4repeats=may or maynot hit.

Second 37spins (38th to 74th spin)
3repeats=100%
4repeats= may/maynot

Thus if we wait for 37spins, that has no 4repeat
Then bet the 3repeat, to become 4repeat,
we bet less and have better chances.

Same for third 37spins (75th to 111st spin)
4repeat=100%
5repeat= may/maynot hit
What you think.?

Thank you BA for your thought,
You're right about the imbalance vs rtm risk.

When we bet ftl and ft2ndlast,
we try to take advantage of the streaking and clustering nature of the EC bet,
Flatbet them , and we risk little, but also gain little.

I think, the best way to bet them, is to outwait the variance and the losing sequence random, till them break.
At least we do not lose  the precious br.

Wish someone could  post charts of ftl and ft2nd last here.
Thanks

For example,
Mr.J stop the bet when hitting losing sequence at "6", then waiting for few more spins, as for them to stabilized,  before resume.
Thus if we wait for 6 to hit, then, it may goes on to hit 8, 10 or more!
We just outwait the losing sequence as long as it want to be, and only resume bet when it break, or stabilized to math expectation.
Just my 2cents.

Thank you Mr.J,
Since we cannot foresee or predict random and variance,
We fear that losing sequences will hit when we start to bet,
So we reduce the risk, by waiting, for the losing variance and random to form first,
at least we avoid the losing sequence till it BREAK,  and the risk of not hitting within math expectation,
greatly minimized.
Waiting for losing sequence to formed, and wait till it break is not trigger, it is a strategy to avoid losses, when we can help it.

We don't know when a losing sequence will break, thus we wait for it break, no matter how many spins it may streak.

As they said, extreme variance and losing random causes huge losse.

But we cannot predict variance and random behavior,
Thus we wait for the losing sequences to happen first, thus we save the virtual losses.

Thank you Mr.J,
Seems that your variance management is "6",...
And wait for few more spins,  for them to "stabilized", before resume betting.
Why not wait for "6", to happened,  then wait till it "BREAK", and start to bet, at least we "save" many valuable units...
A million dollar question, does this ft2nd last, always near rtm after a few hundreds spins, or having the risk, similiar to betting a single color,
which may not rtm, even after a 100, 000 spins?
Thanks in advance, keen to learn from you.

If a selection, is stable, or quite stable, end result, will always hit AROUND HE EXPECTATION, after a 100, 200, or 300spins,
Simply mean, if we bet 1u, for 100spins, the losses for roulette, is just a few units, within HE expectation.

Of course, that not always happen, thus we need MANAGEMENT,  so every risk bet,
we take, we expect the end to hit within math expectation.

We can't beat random, we just wait and see for it to happen.
We can't beat variance, we just wait and see for it to happen.

Thanks Vic,
Thanks Mr.J, for your view.
Appreciate them,
Seems that follow 2nd last, is good vis a vis ftl,
It also take advantage of STREAKS! Which always happen, in roulette and baccarat.

Anyone here has charts of,
flatbet, follow last, and 2nd last?
Please post them here, so we could brainstorming,  to random management, extreme variance management,
And most important, to see whether they are STABLE selection.!

Thanks in advance!

Hi,
Follow the last, for ec, is interesting, for...
1) streaking nature...
2) low br, or flatbet.
3) extreme variance avoidance...
4) variance stop loss management.
5) random management

Ftl, strategy, long existed, since baccarat and roulette were invented, nevertheless, I think we could, tweak this strategy,

Could anyone here,  please help,
post,  few CHART, for follow the last..flatbet 1 unit, 
.preferably more than a thousand spins, or baccarat,
Thus we could see how the line move, snaking up and down,  to southeast, ..due to HE.



IF the ftl,  is STABLE, then we could apply, random management, extreme variance management, virtual loss strategy, ...to take advantage of the STREAKING NATURE , of ftl
Thanks in advance

Bet risking 1u every bet, parlay the win plus 1u.
1st win=2
1+2=3, w=6
1+6=7=14
1+14=15=30
31=62,
63=126
127=254
That 7win streak, anyone dare say 7win streak win won't  happen?

Azy,
We may also bet with matrix4,
1111
1112
1113
1121
1122
1123 and so on.

Bet against the four, to repeat.
Especially,
three unique dz in four spins.
Thus, if , say,
1, 13, 25, 2
That,
1231
bet against that to repeat