Thanks, monaco! We are both testing in a very systematic way. I stick to the same table (table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden). It should make it easy for likeminded members to verify my results without any doubt.
I look forward to compare results later 

Quote from: monaco on March 26, 2013, 11:47:05 AM
Test results for Jan-June 2012, Wiesbaden, alternating daily between Table 2 & 3, playing four/five:


Jan: +176
Feb: +282
Mar: -2
Apr: -29
May: +155
Jun:  +448


Total: +1030u (178 sessions)




June had only 3 losing days of -3, -21 & -25.




It's useful to look closer at May 2012 also, which was much more variable:
up +200 after 15 days, it then dropped -230 in 3 days, before recovering to +155 by the months end.
The 3 consecutive loss days were -104, -83, -45.

Hi monaco; your results are even more impressive than mine! Yes, it is useful to look closer at  some periods.  We cannot know for sure, however, how many chips we´ll need tomorrow.
The session always starts with the first spin of the day. We do not want to manipulate results  by chossing another starting point.
And I do not want to choose another table whenever I feel like it.  Why are you alternating between table 2&3?

Quote from: soggett on March 26, 2013, 08:03:27 AM

Or you might want to consider playing longer sessions

quick test 100 spins
ends +78
4/5 version

Quote from: soggett on March 26, 2013, 07:50:03 AM

very nice results
have you considered having a stop loss of 36 units perhaps? since you go for 1 win only, going over 36 units will put you in minus on a win

Thanks! One quick test does not prove anything. What it going to happen in the long run? I have not got the time to test your ideas.  Anyone with much time and patience: Feel free to start longer test series.

Soon the moon is full. It keeps changing like the eyes of a cat. From the table we might not be able to see the natural light and rhytms from the sun and the moon; but I believe  that we are under the influence. I do not intend to reach for the moon - or transcend TIME here. I feel fine and ready to supply you with the test results from table 3, June 2011. No spin came from there  23.06.2011. So I had only 29 hits or sessions.  The duration (number of spins): 89, 13, 13, 25, 15, 19, 22, 13, 11, 25, 52, 26, 18, 19, 31, 21, 31, 28, 60, 44, 22, 15, 25, 32, 17, 62, 30, 31, 26.
Units: -119+34+24+10+20+27+11+32+33-1-34-22+13+20-22+21+24-1-61-8+11+27-3+28+6-28+11-16+16  +53.
In total the first six months included 178 sessions or hits and resulted in +814 units.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 25, 2013, 12:53:13 PM
Dare I ask a question without being called a name??

Well, I've been called names before so here goes...............

Dane

Are you playing strictly "onses"?  Four out of five or five out of six or both?  Are you playing the doubles?  Do you quit the game after the first win.  It does your readers no good if you only post results and fail to post how you got them.

If you find my questions stupid, just don't answer.

Sam

In Reply # 41 you called monaco a gentleman and a scholar.  We are testing the version, he had just described to you. This is why it makes sense to add his results to mine. TIME is still important.  I hope that we´ll be able to continue the test series. Slow and steady wins the race.

01.05.2011. No spin from table 3. So I examined only 30 lists from that May. Result: +235 units. I must have been EXTREMELY LUCKY!
The 149 sessions from the first five months of 2011 in Spielbank Wiesbaden: +761 units 

22.04.2011: No spin from table 3. So I examined only 29 lists from that April. +171 units.
The 119 sessions from the first four months of 2011 in Spielbank Wiesbaden:           +526 units 
As you may remember, monaco went throught the first four months of 1012. Result: +427 units 
I hope that we are able to continue our test series.

 20-40 spins on average off the top of our heads may not help us, if we do not catch the train .One session may take five spins. Or 85 spins (05.04.2011, table 3).

Quote from: Trebor on March 23, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Is a repeater always treated the same however many times it's shown up?   That is, if you're betting to get five repeaters in a row, it makes no difference how many times the other four have shown?


Trebor

YES! A reapeater is always treated the same way.

Quote from: soggett on March 23, 2013, 10:57:58 AM

so you are playing for 1 hit a day?
why not more, like till you are in plus for that day?
how many spins per day is it on average?

Hi soggett! Of course monaco can speak for himself, if he has got the time.  But as we are testing the same method, I´ll try to explain, why  I (for my part) am only heading for one hit: Nobody can guarantee a plus per day.  Waiting for a plus just before closing time can be most stressfull. Time is still most important! That´s why it is hard to find a clock on the wall at the roulette table.

There is nothing like stating the obvious: TIME is still important! . And good things happen when you get your priorities straight. Not all people have the patience to develop, digest and test a strategy properly. The lists from the first four months of 2012, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden, have been successfully analyzed by monaco. Well begun is half done. My test series started in the permanence archive (table 3) the previous year.

                                                               January 2011:  +249 units
                                                              February 2011 :  -128    -
                                                                March  2011 :  +234     -  .
                                                                                                  In other words: 355 units.

Quote from: Dane on March 18, 2013, 07:17:03 AM
Another member involved in testing mailed me ans suggested this:
At least FOUR "oners" in a row/at least FIVE repeated numbers in a row.
Who knows. This might be the best version so far.

This other member involved in serious testing has kindly given his permission to write this: monaco. Thanks    to monaco.
My sessions from the first twenty days of 2011.
"FIVE/FIVE": 23+34+28+11-5+11+29-2-55 +/-0, -34-87+6-47-80+30-1-41+30+8.
"FOUR/FIVE":31+27+26+25+17-15+27-4+20+30+14+12+34+6-5+32-7-11-7+15.

I´ll pick the new version ("FOUR/FIVE")
and go through the last days of January 2011, Spielbank Wiesbaden: -16+28+10+30+27-43-1+2-18-31+6.
The 31 sessions from that month: 249 units.

 

Quote from: soggett on March 18, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
so basically you wait till you have 4 "oners" or 4 repeated numbers in a row (verticaly or horizontaly doesn't matter) and then bet for the 4 to become 5 in a row? right?
what if you have 2,3,4,5 - will you bet 1 or 6? or both?

In Reply #32  another version was mentioned. But let us just assume, that we stick to this goal:
At least FIVE "oners" in a row/at least  FIVE repeated numbers in a row.
If we are able to reach the goal with the next spin, we bet. There are several possibilities, but let us just look at  examples from the first horizontal group. If 2, 3, 4, 5 are "oners", we bet both 1 and 6.
At least five in a row, however, do not have to  develop from four in a row.  Five "oners": 1, 2, 4, 5, 6. In this case we bet 3.
If 2, 3, 4, 5 are repeaters, and neither 1 nor 6  has come, we do not bet.  If 1 has come once, we place one chip there. And if 6 has come once, we place one chip there.  If we are able to reach the goal in the very next spin, we bet. And if we win: No more bets, thank you   .   CHEERS
                                                                                                                                                               Dane

Another member involved in testing mailed me ans suggested this:
At least FOUR "oners" in a row/at least FIVE repeated numbers in a row.
Who knows. This might be the best version so far.

A little more basic knowledge to the patient reader: FIVE in a row within a group of six can be placed in two ways.  And we are looking at twelfe groups of six.
So heading for at least FIVE "oners" in a row or at least FIVE repeated numbers in a row might be even better.
The patient reader might examine the permanence from  05.02.2011, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden.
Before (with "four/ four")  I had to bet nine numbers in the end of the session. And I lost 150 units.
Now  (with "five/five") I only bet three numbers in the end.  Result: -10 units.