Quote from: esoito on January 13, 2013, 12:58:49 AM

Spike:  I've made a note of the date.

And made a copy of posts thus far.

So on that date I'll be looking for some response/feedback on progress at that particular milestone.

Accountability, and all that...

Esoito you will have it. SUPERMAN is my verifier. The problem with Spike is he doesn't look around he reads and believes what he wants to. He says I don't play for real. I put no money where my thoughts/beliefs are.

Who financed Speramus? Who will turn 200 units into tens of thousands? Who will donate 10% of all winnings to this forum? It won't be him will it.?

Quote from: albalaha on January 13, 2013, 08:34:09 AM
He has provided his "out of world" stuff already. Would you like to try this?

Albalaha, did you bother to read what I wrote at the start of this thread? I said I don't advise ANYONE to play this method unless they have a strong BR and believe in the methods strength.

Funny how you missed that. I simply showed the method to the forum. No one needs to use it. Its just there so you will know one of the methods that won for me.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 13, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
Why is July 19th the day, a milestone?

Its the first stage in showing what these methods will do when used properly and faithfully. The first stage in showing your know it all attitude. didn't quite know it ALL.

There are several people who have me marked as something im not in for more than a shock.

Quote from: esoito on January 12, 2013, 11:36:44 PM
JL

Just a thought but rather than bite back why not let adverse comments be the water off the duck's back?

Biting back simply encourages more of the same!!

By the same token, adverse comments of the method will be inevitable -- you already knew that, surely -- and I had to chuckle over Spike's dry wit.

Perhaps he has a point?  Some will agree...

Esoito youre right. Let them come. I already know this is an alltime winner. July 19th is the first milestone. From there all they will have is empty comments.

You don't 20,30,40,50,100 fold a bankroll with losing methods. They will all be singing another tune in the end.

Quote from: ignatus on January 12, 2013, 09:40:24 PM
I don't understanad how the trigger works? :S


Is it a dozen reappear after 4 spins 2 times in a row?


Dozen 123


1
2
3
3
1 - First Gap?
2
3
2
1 -Second Gap? And now betting doz 2 & 3??

No Ignatus.
4-----DOZEN 1
3
4-----DOUBLE 4 GAP TRIGGER
4? Once you have the double trigger, the next potential 4 GAP is what you bet against. So here we would bet on DOZEN 2 and DOZEN 3.

The strength of the method is, we are aking random to stay under 5 for a very long time in order to beat us. And its not very good at this. Its forcing random not to figure out a code or hit a certain place on the layout. but to keep itself under a limit. I have several thousand results from a live wheel. And 925 played games where its been unable to show me a 7.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 12, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
John, contacting anyone that believes you, including any made up friends, would be pointless. You are the best friend any casino owner would ever want. So go forth and multiply... and divide .... and...

You think so do you? Your golden mistake is assuming you know too much Giz.

You haven't done the homework. Just look at a progression and assume you know the outcome. Just like with PB. You have no idea why they work. Just keep harking on about martingales and triggers. You avoid the crucial reasons I will succeed with these methods.

But as I said to a very arrogant forum owner. Bankrolls don't grow by themselves. We will see how you and the rest explain that away.

Quote from: spike on January 12, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
If you're going to play this insanity in a real casino,
bring your life savings and a sleeping bag. You'll
go broke and be real tired too.

You will do neither. You play this online get with the times. I don't advise anyone to play this until they have a strong BR. And are confident about its strength. I simply introduced it to the forum to show one of the methods that will be used to bring alot of money to Superman and myself this year.

And silence several know alls but show nothings in the process. A few on this forum. And especially the other one.

Quote from: topcat888 on January 12, 2013, 05:33:23 PM
John, I thought the zero was ignored..?

I am playing the zero TC. It makes no difference to the results. This thing will win.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 12, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Sorry john, but the only gap trigger here is the break with reality. I tested this progression a couple of years ago on these forums. It even used a logical method of searching for a weakness in randomness, an actual situational awareness kind of a trigger. It fails at just slightly more than all the money earned from the very long streaks of winnings. In other, more appropriate words, it's fool's gold.

I also do not believe you started playing this three months ago. Three months ago you were up to your neck in Pattern Breaker. I'm just not buying it. If you had the very best from your magic HAR then why does the need to find advanced methods dazzle you now? You are just faking yourself out. Please stop wasting your time. Find something that really works. Anyone can see that the philosophical discussion on randomness has cut into your effectiveness track. This trigger based, magical HAR HAR system of yours has nothing to do with randomness. It's pure rule based nonsense.

Giz PM TwisterUK. And ask him how long he has known about this method.

I don't need you to throw insults in my direction. Neither you or Spike have anything better to bring to the table. No clear cut method or proof it works. But you will both be the first to jump on me, I expect that. It matters not both of you will be climbing off your high horses this year.

Quote from: Bayes on January 12, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
Just checking, so a "gap" is inclusive of the next dozen, like this?

05
32
23
28
05 -- 4
22
09 -- 2
34
12 -- 2
15
08 -- 2
06 -- 1
25
06 -- 2
03 -- 1
32
05 -- 2
33
05 -- 2
18
23
0
09----DOUBLE 4 GAP TRIGGER OF DOZEN 1

Also, it seems that 0 counts toward the gap length.

That's right Bayes. So long as the gaps that separate a four gap are 3 or less they count. And they are welcome. As in my experience the longer a dozen stays under 5 with gaps of 1--3.

The less 4 gaps its can produce before it has to show a 5 or more.

Quote from: topcat888 on January 12, 2013, 04:22:45 PM
Superman, how could you mention that, it never loses..! 

John, could you throw us say a hundred spins or so, with bet triggers / bet amounts marked beside them..?

Okay Topcat. Here is the result of a game I played today
05
32
23
28
05
22
09
34
12
15
08
06
25
06
03
32
05
33
05
18
23
0
09----DOUBLE 4 GAP TRIGGER OF DOZEN 1
05
18
12
14
15
18
07----BET 1 STEP 1 LOST
07
20
32
06
14
21
29
29
28
26
06----WIN BET 2 STEP 2 AS DOZEN 1 BECAME A 7 GAP.

It took 42 spins to complete this game. And what I've found in my experience playing the ZONE in the past. Is how hard it is for random to stay under 5 for over 50 spins.
that's where the confidence in this method first came from.

This is a double dozen method I have been playing for several months now. It was born out of an observation I made about randoms weakness for staying under a five gap for any great period of time on a live wheel. And 7 on 1 exploits this weakness.

THE RULES.

1, We track spins on the DOZENS until we get a double 4 GAP TRIGGER. Three examples are given below. Two are acceptable and the third is a void. A void occurs when two 4 gaps are divided by a gap of 5 or more.

4
4----Classic double 4 gap trigger.

4
3
2
3
4----The second acceptable double 4 gap trigger.

4
7
4----A void as its separated by a gap greater than 3.

2, Once we have our double 4 gap trigger. We continue to track spins until we have a potential 4 gap on the same dozen that gave us our Trigger. Example below.

DOZEN 1
4
3
4
4? This is a potential 4 gap. On the next spin it either becomes a 4 gap or goes to 5 or more.

3, Using up to a 5 step progression. I now commence betting against there being seven of these 4 gaps in a row.
PROGRESSION 1,3,9,27,81 X 2 = 242 UNITS RISK.

4, I stop at winner. So in the example above we would have bet 1 unit on DOZEN 2 and 1 unit on DOZEN 3. And if the ball landed on either of those it's a win. If it hit DOZEN 1. I would continue tracking and go again until I either win one of the 5 steps. Or lose my progression.

5, I advise to play this method LIVE and H.A.R.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR 7 ON 1 FOR 12/01/2013

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 925

TOTAL GAMES WON 925

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 925/0

LONGEST WAIT FOR A WINNER STEP 4 of the progression 6 times. Most wins come in the first two steps of the progression.

I don't recommend this method for beginners. It requires a large BR. Its an advanced method. I just wanted people to know how it works. I am using it in my JL Challenge. I believe it will become a VIRTUAL H.A.R GRAIL. It works very well live. It deals with something random simply struggles to do.

This is the most successful method I have ever used so far. In terms of strikerate. And danger of losing my progression. To have gone this long without even a single challenge on the 242 unit progression it pretty special.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 *HORIZONTAL* FOR 12/01/2013

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 250

TOTAL GAMES WON 250

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 250/0

BALANCE 458 UNITS PLUS

LONGEST WAIT FOR A WINNER STEP 7 OF THE PROGRESSION...

Having now adopted the 6 loss trigger and 10 step progression. This method remains unchallenged after 250 games. The most I have been pushed in the last 100 games is to step 6 of the progression 5 times. And step 7 once. Step 7 is shown in the
example below. Another interesting observation recorded over these 250 games. Is how solid a single vertical line is.

Over that sample of games. Its never gone more than 10 deep without a match on either line. I think the winning potential of this method played H.A.R could be off the chart. All things considered. With only 53--65 wins required to recover a progression. Its going to work.

LL
LL
LL---6 LOSS TRIPPLE TRIGGER
LL
LL
LL
W------WIN ON STEP 7 OF THE 10 STEP PROGRESSION.

I have to give high praise to AMK and Atlantis. For making this gem possible. 

L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
W----The longest its taken either line to hit a match. Food for thought indeed...

Quote from: Robeenhuut on January 11, 2013, 07:11:18 AM
So what's the purpose of testing it consecutively? To say that after you go as you predict 2000/1 playing HAR and 2000/10 in continuous testing that HAR makes it a grail ? Just use Stef tracker and you will see how a strike rate fluctuates. I think that hitting F9 key to get 500 spins and a few games constitutes HAR.

Matt its not the same. All my methods are born on a live wheel. Although I believe an RNG like BV is fair.

I still believe there's a difference in pattern formation. If there wasn't. Then surely I would have lost or at least been pushed a handful of times by now.

What im saying is it may be much harder for the physics of a live wheel to put 7 of these 4s together in a single run. Hence why I've never recorded anything more than a 6. And in 920 games I've never met more than a 5.

I knew this was strong live from my experience with the ZONE. There was rarely more than 40--50 spins without a five. And this occured when a dozen became hot.

And started producing several gaps of 1-4. So that in 40--50 spins its hit at least 12 times. Meanwhile the other two dozens are producing longer streaks from 5---30.

Quote from: Superman on January 11, 2013, 08:32:57 AM
No matter how you look at it, any 12 numbers can sleep the same, layout means nothing, ignatus this has been tried before, the only thing you seem to have picked up is using +1 if behind, the rest you are just going round in circles mate.

For once I totally agree with Superman lol!