Quote from: Bally6354 on January 28, 2014, 09:38:28 AM
Hello Warrior

The 2nd's refers to a second consecutive hit of an E.C. and the 3rd's refers to a third consecutive hit of an E.C.
Any hit of the same E.C. after the 3rd's does not count in the example I posted.

So taking those Black numbers again.....

33 is the first number and it's black. So now I am waiting to see if Black makes a second appearance on the next spin. If it does, I put a W (win) in the 2nd's column. If it doesn't come out on the next spin, I put a L (loss) in the 2nd's column.

The next number out was 26 Black. So it gets a W in the 2nd's column.

Now I am waiting to see what the next number is. If it's Black, that's a third consecutive hit and I will put a W (win) in the 3rd's column. If it's not Black, I will put a L (loss) in the 3rd's column.

The next number out was 26 Black. So it gets a W in the 3rd's column.

Now it doesn't matter if there are another 3 consecutive Black numbers. They don't get recorded. Because I am not looking for 4th's, 5th's or 6th's.

I repeat the same process for all 3 E.C's...but nothing stopping anybody just playing 1 or 2.

My example came from the first batch of numbers that I found and I suppose in hindsight doesn't really show the benefits of tracking in this way. So here is another example of 2nd's and 3rd's which should give a clearer picture. Let's assume I am tracking Black in this example and the first column is the 2nd's and the second column is the 3rd's.

1) L
2) W  L
3) W  W
4) L
5) L
6) W  L
7) W  L
8} W  W
9) W  W
10) L
11) W  W
12) L
13) L
14) W  W
15) L
16) L
17) W  W
18} L
19) L
20) W  W
21) L
22) L
23) W  W

So looking at 8} to 23) you can see that there was 7 wins and 9 losses for the 2nd's. However there was a straight 7 wins for the 3rd's. This is really the whole point behind the operation. You are using different streams (ie....2nd's + 3rd's) to look for the strongest trends to follow.

I hope that helps. 

perfect I understand  thnx

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 27, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
Hello 

I would like to share the idea of 2nd's + 3rd's here.

There is an Excel sheet at the bottom with an example using Black/Red and Low/High.

I will use the Black numbers in the sheet to give an example....

What I am tracking for is to see if a Black number goes to 2 hits and then goes on to 3 hits.

33
26
26
31
33
8

There are 6 consecutive black numbers there and so I put a W for both the 2nd's and the 3rd's.

The next black numbers....

29
13

Now there are only 2 black numbers there. So I put a W in the 2nd's and an L in the 3rd's.

Next up...

8

Only 1 black number there. So an L goes in the 2nd's and I can't put anything in the 3rd's.

Next up...

29
24

2 black numbers. So a W in the 2nd's and an L in the 3rd's.

What I am playing close attention at is the W's and L's in the 2nd's + 3rd's.

It's possible to get a run of L's in the 2nd's.....BUT.....a run of W's in the 3rd's. This would happen if you got runs of just either 1 black and runs of 3+ blacks.

Charting all three E.C's (Black/Red, Low/High, Odd/Even) is the way to go.

A tracker would do the job OR you could just skip a spin or two in a B+M casino to give you time to track everything.

Of course....you could track 2nd's, 3rd's + 4th's and even use this idea for dozens and columns.

It is just another way to look for betting the W's OR L's depending on what's happening in the 2nd's and 3rd's.

cheers.

I really don't get what your doing how do you mean 2 nd 3 rds?

You guys are worse then women you sound like ckickens clucking ,moderator why let this stupid debate go on. He said she said what the f.

Nice graph I did you manage that?

Ok got it thanks.

Quote from: VLS on January 26, 2014, 09:57:27 PM
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How do you mean misses 2 cycles?

Do you guys ever think how much concentration goes into gambling. Dealers take a break every 30 mins. It's taxing on the brain so players go through the same so hit and run is realistic way to play not because it changes random or there is an advantage it makes sense.to take a break.

Quote from: Bayes on December 27, 2013, 09:50:44 PM

Yes but the solution to this problem is not to go home or switch tables after making a limited number of bets (hit & run) but to find a bet selection which reduces the variance. Hit & run, as a strategy, is not a bet selection at all, but just a different way of breaking up your betting in time.


What is "too long" anyway? at precisely what point in your betting does the house edge or variance begin to bite? The house edge is present on every spin, and if you don't have a decent bet selection the variance could get you at any time, maybe from the very first bet.

I agree but if you look at mit blackjack Players once the decks are cold they move on and I'm not saying roulette is the same but you need to know when to leave .Bet selection is every thing and I keep saying this you need to play close to 50 /50  that's the best your going to do in this game .Runs and changes happen all day long ,my bet selection wins out of 40 ,39 times.I think that's pretty good on a so called random game.

I play for a set number of of spins each session and my wins are more then my loses . I'm not there all day like gamblers

and lose everything back that's a waste of time. I do this flat betting and there is a time when to raise a bet to win more money or else big wins are not possible.

The ? Is are they making a living at it . I have my doubts a very hard way to make easy money.

We can sit here until next year on this and resolve nothing ,unless you have have bet selection that has powers .video poker you might have  a chance.

If you sit to long at any table and don't have enough BR you will lose and if you have enough you will lose.casinos know if you play long enough you will lose .

I  disagree if you sit to long at any table you will lose .this is why casinos use comps and give you free stuff if your winning a lot of their money ,they know that the longer you play the more you will lose.

Quote from: Bally6354 on November 25, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
Don't take this the wrong way guys.....but we can we keep on topic.

This particular method is not a 'two dozen's method'.

It's either 2 six-lines = 12 numbers.

or

3 quads = 12 numbers.

cheers

no I did not mean 2 dozen, at the same time ,same stratagie but pick 1st  and 2 nd ex. Then spin 5 and the same as his method.same results.

In my view you can pick any two dozen and play the same game ,it will be the same.