I have used it, and found a positive progession is working well.  1 up on a win.  The winnings are  very often in a row. It cover a bit much of the table, which is a cost during a losing streak, so I would not use negative progressions. One up on just the winning chip is to consider as well.

The comes closer to the release of the BV bot.  Some smaller issues to test more. Then a hope a few more are ready to write script for it.
I will concentrate of scripting later, and hope all popular methods can be scripted in rather short time. All scripts will automatic be updated for all users, as soon I have added it to the server.


The script here place the next bet on the last shown number and the two neigbors on both sides.  For  those not familar with programming it is a good script to examinate as it is rather easy to understand how it works.


The script get  the winning number, betsize and the bet. As it is straight up bets, it is the number which is the code for the bet.
It returns the new bet and the betsize.  The win target and stop loss is set in the main program. For example play 0.01 until 50 units plus or 200   units loss. The first release will handle session with maximum 100 Euros including the win target, which is 10000 units of the lowest bet size.



function extfunc (number,betsize, bet){
var num = parseInt(number);
switch(num){
   case 0:
   return "3,26,0,32,15/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 1:
   return "16,33,1,24,15/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 2:
   return "4,21,2,25,17/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 3:
   return "12,35,3,26,0/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 4:
   return "15,19,4,21,2/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 5:
   return "23,10,5,24,16/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 6:
   return "17,34,6,27,13/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 7:
   return "18,29,7,28,12/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 8:
   return "11,30,8,23,10/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 9:
   return "14,31,9,22,18/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 10:
   return "8,23,10,5,24/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 11:
   return "13,36,11,30,8/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 12:
   return "7,28,12,35,3/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 13:
   return "6,27,13,36,11/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 14:
   return "1,20,14,31,9/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 15:
   return "0,32,15,19,4/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 16:
   return "5,24,16,33,1/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 17:
   return "2,25,17,34,6/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 18:
   return "9,22,18,29,7/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 19:
   return "32,15,19,4,21/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 20:
   return "33,1,20,14,31/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 21:
   return "19,4,21,2,25/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 22:
   return "31,9,22,18,29/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 23:
   return "30,8,23,10,5/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 24:
   return "10,5,24,16,33/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 25:
   return "21,2,25,17,34/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 26:
   return "35,3,26,0,32/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 27:
   return "34,6,27,13,36/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 28:
   return "29,7,28,12,35/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 29:
   return "22,18,29,7,28/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 30:
   return "36,11,30,8,23/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 31:
   return "20,14,31,9,22/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 32:
   return "26,0,32,15,19/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 33:
   return "24,16,33,1,20/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 34:
   return "25,17,34,6,27/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 35:
   return "28,12,35,3,26/" + betsize;
   break;
   case 36:
   return "27,13,36,11,30/" + betsize;
   break;
}
}


For programers  or others, this script can be codet a lot of other ways.  You can use the winning numbers as key to a dic and you can place the return numbers in an Array at the index of the winning number.

In fact the opposite, I should never had won at the game if i got the expected value. I got the real which come out from it. That i point to was the math you show, which will show the expected value and that is 2.7.

Pb how it works or not, I do not want to take up here, but I use to win that small faster. Using a bet real and not wait for 60 spins.
I can not image how it will make any profit, may be profit but according to what I have seen it takes very long time. Even if it gives a plus how much?  My personal view is it will not working, but I have not tested it deep at all I have not even  done any test. I think waiting, and waiting for a "trigger" is good in that sense you do not risk any at most of the spins.  I test some of this kind of  methods, and they may work or not.  If you got the numbers which suit it, that's depend of if you are lucky to get it. I do not think there are any sure ways, you got to have some luck. There are better or worse ways, so using a method  that's to do. How can any like to spend a month to get a few, is such method ever useful?

Some  threads are locked with only one post!
The math shows figures which  are well known,  the 2.7% disadvantages in the play, We see these figures that we have seen before, a mathematical study of a game way usually give this results.  If I should use PB, my expectaion would be worse! The outcome may differ.

I am  have doubts. They are not allowed to use in Nevada, but many casinos in Europe do not mind a computer or other devices as long they do not disturb the game or other players. How could they stay in business if this devices  works? I have seen people using computer a few meters from the table openly, and they let him do so.

The programming language is often not hard to learn. The way to tanslate anything  into the code is the harder part, any can do that, can fast use any programming language.  Put everthing apart in smaller steps is the way to start, then put it all together.
Start with so simple thing which sounds very easy, like very simple additions, count the letters in a word, give value to a variable.
The reason I chose javascript to my bot, is it can be coded in many ways and levels, from "spagetti" code to pure OOP. For a program to test roulette it does not matter if the code is elegant, the main  thing it is works and gives right output.


A language with a larger  class lib is also a good choise, as the "ready made" is well tested, and we do not need to invent the wheel once again.

I never clicked the link, but nobody can take patent on a way of playing, you can protect a collection in a book. But never claim the sole right to use a method.  Patent and copyright can never be on a method which follow the rules of a 300 years play.

Quote from: albalaha on November 22, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
         We are only talking of things on record i.e. zumma and working on  tough numbers/ bet selections with a systematic approach. There is a world of difference between hypothesis and reality and this reality is lying open to world.
        I wonder how Ophis talk about testing a billion spins (he can not be serious here) and you talk of "only number 3 in all 15000 spins (that is not possible with even trillion spins). Wake up guys.

Why is it not possible, it will be one outcome every time you spin 15000. That what is posted will never come back in in trillions of spins or are as unlikley to come back as you get 15000 number 3 in a row. This is a fact. 

Every 15000 spins has equal chance, the posted numbers are as uniqe as 15000 number 3  . Hard for many to take even if they should understand it. It is 1/37 multply 15000 times, a large number(or better small), but still all has the same probabillity. It is the human brain making the 15000  number 3 more uniqe than any other outcome.

Every sets are different, the 15000 spins supplied are equal uniqe as if it were only number 3 in all 15000 spins.

I have no time for it, but as the numbers are known before the play, it  may be possible to  design a method for the spins, and if it will be possible it is still not sure it will past 15k other spins.

A roulette bot is dependet of reading the casino screen. It is almost impossible to make a robot working at any casino. My bot is made for Betvoyager Zero Wheel at the first hand. It will work on BV NOZero wheel as well, if the scripts not are written so it bet on zero as a default bet. It will count the balance and stop at win target on the NoZero wheel as well, but it will place 0.5 instead of 0.01 chips. As the balance at the casino account is read by the program, rather than a chip count it works on the NoZero, using the same scripts.  This feature makes the scripting much easier as well.


The multiball table will not work, as the program is not designed to read more than one winning number. You could use the multiball manual and let the bot place the bet, but it can not recognice the winning numbers. If you set the game to one ball it will work, but that is of minor use as it is the very same as the zero table.  The American table will not work if any bets are placed on zero or double zero, it can not understand and read the zero hits.


The first release the program will read the balance up to a certain amount in the range of 0.01 to 100 Euro a session. Higher values will be implementet later in coming versions. As most players use less than 100 Euro in one session, I will not let the program be delayed for that reason.


The program is ready, but I have to make test on many different computers first, it is not for sure a program works in all cases just because it works on the developers computer.  As said before the NET FRAMWORK have to be in the Windows, and I have not tested it on other platforms  with emulator for Windows. I  have to write a users manual as well.


The size of the program is about 2 megatbytes.  It will run in variable speed, most of the scripts will run a spin in about four seconds, and it can take a bit longer if for example 200 chips is to be placed.  It has a  slider which the user can slow down the speed or make it run faster. Depending on the scripts it is not always possible to run at the  maximum speed.


The program is designed to run on 32 and 64  computers, there are not different versions.  The program as such will never access the disk on the computer, If the casino cache or set cookies the program will not interfere, the usual settings for the computer security is used. The  security setting may ask the user for permission to access internet, which is to navigate to the casino.  The log in at the casino is the default page at the casino, the program can never  know this entries. The bot use the webbased version of the casino, not the exe version, and it is an instance of IExplorer which host the casino. A newer version should be present at the computer(It is included in Windows).


As the bot must force the casino window to not open in a new window, we should not use the program for navigating around, if we want to see the history, make deposits or other tasks, we shall do it using the ordinary webbrowser.  The program navigate to the casino main homepage, there we login at the default place, and then chose the game on the page. As soon a game is opened, we should try to not navigate so an other window will be forced to not open, it can be confusing for the casinos stylesheets or scripts.

Is a difficult issue, free to speak yes! if it is wrong Yes" but all  this   males, who can not take any critics, and instantly feel offended, is something we here can buy a book about.

We live in a world there some males are frustrated. We live in a word of change. The new order is from east

1. Shangahai  2, Mumbay  3.Goodbye) 4. Bad Guy

At my age I have got the best part (according to my location) than any in history and that's will be valid until I pass off!

The step from a tracker to a script which works in a robot is not far. The tracker has done  the special work for a method, the (ro)bot takes care of the betting at the table, the win target and the stop/loss.  My bot is designed to take any imageable methods with a script wich never is harder to code than a tracker.  The bot will be supported, but it is up to you to have the sytem (Windows) updated, whith NET 4.0.
I can not spend time to support your configurations. Any newer windows will work (from vista) if you own a legal copy which are updated manually every week or auto as soon needed, it will run good. You need 500 mb RAM to run fast, 300 is min. Older computers will work, but not old OS (for between  two or  five years witout updating) NET FRAMEWORK IS MANDATORY!

All version of Windows do not have it, it is free from Microsoft site.  If you are unsure, an easy way is to download  Visual basic Express  2012 which is free, and always give the NET framework for your Windows version.

And see just one post in a section by the moderator, there will be no diff.  Hopefully the posts increase!!


Where is the spell checker, a spellchecker makes many good posts, the world speak english more or less, and a lot posts will not be here as they are badly jugded because of  "poor" language, we must live whith some problem, use English, even of most can do better with a native, but it is the Babylon split in work