To me it's simply two people feuding who haven't put up anything on the board. One talks about a money management that wins him wonders but never shows what it is and another talks about the betselection that is doing him good but doesn't put up.  Two men in the same boat. 

In case you haven't seen this thread.

http://betselection.cc/actualshands/dublinbet-baccarat-shoes/

Quote from: alrelax on September 24, 2015, 02:57:46 PM
I seriously (SERIOUSLY) think the OP meant a 5 streak banker, not a total of less than 5 banker hands in a shoe!?  However, I could be wrong and maybe he did mean that.

Sorry, i didn't mean streak. I meant number of bankers (absolute).

Thinking of it, does anyone here can say with confidence that I will see a minimum of at least 5 bankers in a shoe? Can anyone limit the worst that can happen to a Banker or a player outcome in a shoe?

Virtual losses doesn't really mean anything, except giving the player who is doing it a psychological satisfaction that their way of playing is premium than the chinese who bet every hand. Given that we are all gambling that psychological satisfaction can be the wall between winning that session and losing it.

Waiting for a trigger to happen (which is in essence the virtual loss is all about, it's a trigger to place your bet) is an idea that is as flawed as asking the sun to rise from the west. I am not a math person, but whatever people say, I strongly believe that unless you put money on the table and put money on the lost bets, virtual loss is nothing.

As a concept, it is very similar to someone taking few hands from yesterday to decide what to bet on the first hand for today.

Victor - I don't know how long this self moderation is going to continue.  But at least is there. Time stamp that can be added to the posts to say last modified.  I had seen that in a number of posts where xxvv has edited.  If it is to change views it is alright. But if it is to claim 1000$ first and then edit the post and say I have never asked for money that is a very wrong community behaviour. In fact I have seen such a note in the past. 

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on September 01, 2015, 10:44:53 PM
This thread is a bit ironic, as I was having the same discussion with a mate  a casino few days ago.

We concluded with a 100,000 we should would be able to clear 1M in a year, winning 2000 per day, either 80 x 25 or 20 x 100.  We concluded with this amount of ammo, it would be very doable working as a pair (discipline, composure purposes).  Only need to get our hands on 100k.  As he is in finance, he needs to find an investor willing to front with 100k for a 100% rtn pa, we pocket the rest.

I can fund you 10000 and you can return me 100000 after 2 years.  What do you think.  I suppose this is doable

Quote from: XXVV on July 21, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
choosing

Yes of course this is a practical and pure 'seamless' mathematical approach. However I prefer to work at each spin as my bets often change spin by spin as I play multiple sets of interpretations ( for example finales/ streets/ wheel sections/ columns) and my goal is to enter and exit as swiftly as possible in the particular style of play I am now advocating ( just one of many valid approaches) and by selecting for example local Dublin time 8pm onwards over a window of four hours or more, the spin frequency can be more than halved because of patronage. Just look at the Wiesbaden live data for example comparing Tuesday afternoon to Saturday night play by comparing dealer change times on tisch#3.

I certainly now question the assumption of the 'seamless' nature of spin sequences in comparison to my views 20 years ago, because of live table experience.

XXVV, I respect your experience. Without calling any names, I have been playing roulette and bacc since am in my twenties. Now am in my seventies. Taking just a leaf out of my experience, in the style of play you are advocating with multiple sets of interpretations if you are taking a four hour window, just try for once imagining that the alternate spins doesn't exist. You would get the same experience as if you have taken into account every spin. I can prove this for any trigger/any sets of interpretations. I respect the privacy of everyone's bet selections and hence request you to try for yourselves and see before believing it.

Quote from: XXVV on July 20, 2015, 05:21:53 PM
The French Roulette rules are best if possible but they are not available for Dublin.  Bet 365 has now cut available time to bet in order to make between bet analysis more difficult. Thus a bet that looks ahead would be helpful - this is not a glib remark but instead a bet that is triggered by a promising 'tendency towards a certain outcome or set of outcomes' and which can be turned off if failing or amplified if working successfully over say 2-3 spins.

You can opt to skip spins to gain time for your bet analysis. So you could count the numbers from every alternate spins or every 3 spins to buy you bet analysis time. You will find that the results, strike rate will be the same as if you are chosing to consider every spin for your triggers.

Quote from: HunchBacShrimp on July 06, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
It is true every LL is a 3u loss and every WW is a 2u gain. However, there is the LW where the negative marty recovers that lost 1u, as the flat better achieves 0u.

One should consider all possibilities. Consider WL also into the mix and that will make up the difference.

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on June 26, 2015, 05:02:49 AM
  I don't follow your assumption.

Hey Rolex - The idea you suggested was using a template to reduce the risk of getting into a trap of 8 banker streak. Am assuming when you say template it is a preconfigured set of decisions in sets of 3, 4, 5 so on... Lets assume you are taking a preconfigured template of 3 decisions. BPB. 8 decisions with this template will show BPBBPBBP. Now while you are reducing the risk of getting into a trap of 8 banker streak, you are increasing your risk of getting into the BPBBPBBP trap. That's what I meant.

Always loving - Musibat.

Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 30, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Where does  one find a $ 5 Bac table?   It`s either $20 or $25  in my  neck of the woods.

You can find them in London wherever you go. Finding 10 is even relatively easier.

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on June 24, 2015, 05:27:36 AM
You might as well use a template, at least then only 12.5% of any Banker 8 streak would be your nemesis, instead of any and every 8 Banker streak. 

Rolex - isn't that a misconception. You are running away from one and getting trapped into the other?

Why confuse people and talk in the air?

From when baccaratt was invented, people has been preaching be patient, be disciplined, set yourselves goals so on and so forth. Nothing new and there will not be anything new. Measuring single, double, streaks, every baccaratt player will have some kind of a bet selection that goes for single, double and streaks. Nothing new. I can't understand the point, repeatedly beating the bush.

But i am awed by some posts in the forum that claims about a supernatural power knowing the way around a shoe. All i can say is it cannot be supernatural and if it cannot be supernatural, people are just talking around the bush scared/protective to show their way of play. Why talk loud when you cannot back it. hmm....can't blame them, the world is full of wild cats who will pounce upon as soon as someone show their way of play. good luck

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