Chime in here if it's okay please.

Asym wrote, "After all most players follow the shoe and all of them are long term losers and trying to exploit the "following the shoe" approach mixed with the expectation guidelines needs a lot of experience and study that surely KFB and Alrelax got in their arsenal."

Finding and defining advantages from fallacy to tangible;

Applying a rock solid Money Management Method that works and you religiously abide by regardless of loss or win;

The ability to take uncertainty out of the picture.  Not easy but you have to. Taking uncertainty out of your conscious will allow a crucial skill for minimizing emotional chaos and allowing you an advantage to distinguish more between what is actually happening and presentments that have a much greater negativity of advantaged play.

The above 3 have proven themselves as great advantages IMO, in my actual brick & mortar play experience and allowing myself the ability to win far greater than what I lose. 

The 2 states I am between the majority of the times, there are no Waffle Houses.

Although when I am in or around Kansas City for work or casino, there are!  And in fact I/We will even break from a casino to go one nearby to eat! 

Love them, always did and always will!

Rolling High

Walking through the casino, cash in my pocket
Feeling bold, All hundreds, Buying in let's go
I'm ready, the chips shimmer like pure gold
BetSelection's got my back, where truth's the only game
And from my first wager of the night
Any drama and fakery, vanish like a faint flame. 

Rolling high with BetSelection, the real deal in my hand, Slamming down those natural 9s, just like I planned
In a world of glitz and glitter
It's the truth that shines bright
BetSelection, my guide in this thrilling night. 

Black and purple chips are my ammunition, I wage my war
Against the house's natural 8s, oh what a score
Winning with my natural 9s! Bring it on, it's all good
EZ, 5 Treasures, Macau style, it don't matter how they play
When the cards are dealt just right, they all turn my way. 

Rolling high with BetSelection, the real deal in my hand, Slamming down those natural 9s, just like I planned.
In a world of glitz and glitter
It's the truth that shines bright
BetSelection my guide in this thrilling night. 

It's what it's all about, under the neon skies
Facts and figures, no disguise, no more lies
Entering the casino with a mission
BetSelection by my side, Always Always Forever
Feeling the rush, a roller coaster ride. 

From Atlantic City to Las Vegas
From Connecticut's largest to Los Angeles' crowded
From South Florida's Hard Rocks to the Midwest
Been there and played most all without much changing
The amazing Asians, wonderful Whites and
Let's not forget a few other nationalities
That venture into our world, the world of Bac

One thing for sure that is guaranteed not a loser
Same as a natural 9 and you know what I mean
And that my friend is BetSelection
Bring it on, 24/7/365 cause we are here
High five, fist bump, big hugs for those huge wins

Rolling high with BetSelection, the real deal in my hand, Slamming down those natural 9s, just like I planned.
In a world of glitz and glitter
It's the truth that shines bright
BetSelection, my guide in this thrilling night.

And we worked on this one for awhile:

Baccarat Bonanza

Slamming cards on the felt, the lights shining bright,
Risking it all under the neon night,
Bets going down, the chips stack high,
This is the casino, where dreams never die.
Swiping my card, feel the rush in my veins,
Exchanging dollars for chips, breaking the chains,
Sipping on whiskey, feeling the thrill,
I'm ready to play, ready for that skill.


Oh, Baccarat bonanza, luck on my side,
Slamming down nines, ready for the ride,
Dealer's jaw drops, can't believe his eyes,
Winning hand after hand, I'm reaching for the skies.
Asian players stare, shaking heads in doubt,
But this game's for all, let me hear you shout!


Natural nine vs a natural eight,
The crowd holds its breath, it's a high-stakes fate,
Cards on the table, it's a battle of pride,
With every round won, Never losing my stride.
The dealer caught off guard, in awe of my luck,
While I'm counting my chips, he's running amok,
Each victory crown, a crown of my own,
In the heart of the city, this thrill I have grown.


Oh, Baccarat bonanza, luck on my side,
Slamming down nines, ready for the ride,
Dealer's jaw drops, can't believe his eyes,
Winning hand after hand, I'm reaching for the skies.
Asian players stare, shaking heads in doubt,
But this game's for all, let me hear you shout!


Skill for some, and luck for others,
In this grand game, we all find our brothers,
Blackjack, poker, craps, slots but Baccarat is my jam,
With every new round, I'm a part of this fam.
The clinking of chips, the music so loud,
In the casino's realm, I'm feeling so proud,
Fingers crossed tight, for that natural win,
In this tangled dance, it's where I begin.


Oh, Baccarat bonanza, luck on my side,
Slamming down nines, ready for the ride,
Dealer's jaw drops, can't believe his eyes,
Winning hand after hand, I'm reaching for the skies.
Asian players stare, shaking heads in doubt,
But this game's for all, let me hear you shout!


With cash in my pocket, I'm leaving my mark,
In the heat of the game, igniting the spark,
Casino life may be wild, but it's where I belong,
Baccarat my anthem, my heart's steady song.

Baccarat Soul


Step into the light where the chips all gleam,
In the heart of the night, living out a dream,
Cards on the felt, hear the dealer call,
It's a game of Baccarat, where I rise or fall.
Money in my hand, it's a rush like no other,
The thrill of the game, oh, it's like a lover.
Natural nines coming, I'm riding on high,
Asian players staring, man, they can't deny.


Baccarat nights, where the fortunes change,
Winning hand after hand, never feels strange,
Five Treasures waiting, with side bets to find,
In this casino glow, I'm leaving fears behind.


Whispers in the air as the chips exchange,
Every flip of a card feels a little deranged,
Eyes on the table, the tension can build,
But with every wager, my fortune's fulfilled.
The crowd gathers 'round, they can't look away,
How I conjure up wins, in a magical play,
Counting my blessings as the fates intertwine,
In the world of Baccarat, I'm feeling divine.


Baccarat nights, where the fortunes change,
Winning hand after hand, never feels strange,
Five Treasures waiting, with side bets to find,
In this casino glow, I'm leaving fears behind.


The felt beneath my fingers, it's soft and it's grand,
With every chip stacked high, I'm making my stand,
All the glimmers and the glamour, it's hard to resist,
In the game of chance, I'm lost in bliss.
Asian players amazed, asking how it's done,
But in the dance of the cards, it feels like pure fun,
Natural nines flowing, like a river of gold,
In this Baccarat table, my story unfolds.


Baccarat nights, where the fortunes change,
Winning hand after hand, never feels strange,
Five Treasures waiting, with side bets to find,
In this casino glow, I'm leaving fears behind.


So raise your glass high, let's toast to the night,
To the thrill of the chase, everything feels right,
With money on the felt, and dreams in the air,
In the world of Baccarat, I'm beyond compare.
Every hand is a chance, or every spin and roll,
In this soulful casino, I'm reclaiming my soul.

A casino friend that is into composing rock and also soul songs is putting together a few songs for us. 

Here is the first one.  Music to follow soon:

In the world of spinning wheels, truths untold
Where casinos glitter, but their secrets grow old
There's a beacon shining bright so you'll have the sight
A forum true and bold BetSelection's here to light your soul with gold. 

Oh, BetSelection, you stand the test of time
In a web of rumors, you're the rhythm with endless time
The only drama-free sanctuary you'll ever need
With the wisdom and the truth to succeed.

When the noise of wannabes tries to drown your mind
They spin their copycat tales, but you'll always find
BetSelection's got the facts, a guiding kind
Ready to entertain, inform, and unwind. 

Oh, BetSelection, you stand the test of time
In a web of rumors, you're the rhythm with time
The only drama-free sanctuary you'll ever need
With the wisdom and the truth to succeed. 

24/7, every day, 365 it rocks, A haven on the 'net
Where the gamblers talk, Whether it's Baccarat
Or anything else high stakes for sure
BetSelection's the real deal, it unlocks the block. 

Oh, BetSelection, you stand the test of time
In a web of rumors, you're the rhythm with time
The only drama-free sanctuary you'll ever need
With the wisdom and the truth to succeed. 

It is what it is, as the old saying goes
BetSelection's the place where true wisdom flows.

You wrote, "Conversely, playing towards low levels of presentation will suffer from the inevitable strong deviations.
In the meanwhile HE adds more damage to our bankroll.

The same about betting half of the hands dealt or 1/3 (or more) of the hands dealt.

If you stay away from betting you are not losing anything, I don't recall any long term winning player betting more than few or very few hands per shoe."

I wrote,  "Expectations are extremely dangerous to a player. By expecting presentations to be a certain way you are removing yourself from the reality of the shoe. 

If you remove yourself from expectations of what should happen/ occur and how it should, you become impartial and more open to the possibility of what the shoe will produce.  You pay attention in a different perspective that will be to your advantage.

BAC is complex and your awareness is crucial to profitability. Expectations are great in planning and armchair quarterbacking, but at the table they are extremely dangerous and bankroll drainers in every aspect whatsoever."

More in my thread I wrote just before you wrote the above I quoted.


https://betselection.cc/index.php?topic=12019.msg73214;topicseen#msg73214

For clarification.  I did not intend to influence people to use what I wrote with wildly or guessing type of consistent betting, etc.

I intended it to be used within a solid M.M.M., and of course, along with some type of wagering as we have discussed whereupon the gambler has advantages. 

A topic discussed at length within my circle of gaming friends as well as online venues, has been Bankrolls and Buy-ins.

Through my experience and absolute conclusion, the proper Buy-in would be 10% but no greater under any condition than 15% of the persons Bankroll.

BANKROLL.  Your total funds set aside for gambling risk.

BUY-IN.  Your funds at risk you bring to the casino for each session. 

EXAMPLE BANKROLL.  $10,000.00.  Buy-in per session would be $1,000.00 to $1,500.00, depending upon your comfort and confidence levels.  Bankrolls are also non-accessible from the casino.  Only the Buy-in is taken to the casino on the gambler' person.

REASONING. Dividing up your Bankroll funds gives you multiple chances to win. Realizing dedication and being goal driven with very clear, decisive and definitive numbers. Playing the session in relationship to those three things.  Not playing at any point with the frustration and desperation if you lose, you are out of funds for your gaming pursuits (unless of course you are down to your last session because you somehow wiped out a proper Bankroll with reasonable session Buy-in percentages).

PROTOCOL.  PLAYER ADVANTAGE.  Buy-ins must be religiously and repetitively used to accumulate win money for the current session's play/risk funds. Once the Buy-in is exceeded, the gambler must lock back up his Buy-in.  The win money will determine the length of his session. Sessions can continue as long as he risks only 1/3rd to 2/3rds of his win money. If he exhausted his Buy-in without winning any funds, the session must end.  Period!

POST SESSION.  Gambler must return his Buy-in to his Bankroll to replenish previous losses, if any. Win money must also be returned to his Bankroll to replenish previous lost money, if any.  OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE:  If the gambler is 100% whole with his Bankroll, then he must use the win money outside of gambling to keep a clear and concise frame of mind, so he will not fall into the trap of always believing he will be able to win more and more. This will also put him at an advantage for realizing tangible purchases or uses that his win money created for him.  I.E.:  Pay bills, buy household items, pay down loans, purchase reloadable cards for daily/weekly expenses, etc., etc.

BANKROLL SIZE:  A controversial subject, but in my lengthy experience as well as countless gambling friends and partners experiences, it is of the upmost gamblers advantage to keep the same Bankroll size for a lengthy period of time.  And, not to always have the desire only to win for the purpose of building his Bankroll larger and larger. Doing so brings false hopes, harder session goals, and all types of fallacies which will ultimately cause greater and eventual losses in almost every single case. Bankrolls should be set by the gamblers comfort level, confidence level, and financial ability to be able to risk his entire Bankroll.

'Las Vegas' was a NBC Television series lasting 5 Years.

From WIKI:  "Las Vegas is an American comedy-drama television series created by Gary Scott Thompson. It was broadcast by NBC from September 22, 2003, to February 15, 2008, airing for five seasons. It focuses on a team of people working at the Montecito, a fictional hotel and casino on the Las Vegas Strip. The employees deal with various issues that arise within the working environment, ranging from casino security to restaurant management and valet parking. Las Vegas starred James Caan, Josh Duhamel, Nikki Cox, James Lesure, Vanessa Marcil, Molly Sims, Marsha Thomason, and eventually Tom Selleck. The series originally centered on Ed Deline (Caan), a strict ex-CIA officer who serves as the president of operations for the Montecito. Former Marine Counterintelligence/HUMINT (CI/HUMINT) officer, Danny McCoy (Duhamel), who is Ed's protégé, later becomes the Montecito's new president.

The pilot episode began filming in March 2003, and was produced for $5 million, making it the most expensive pilot in NBC history. Production for a full season began later that year. Much of the series filming occurred at Culver Studios in California, where a set was constructed to represent the Montecito. Some filming also occasionally took place in Las Vegas. The Mandalay Bay and Green Valley Ranch, two hotel-casinos in the Las Vegas Valley, were sometimes used to portray the Montecito."

Years ago I was at Mandalay Bay with one of my non Mandalay Bay Casino hosts and one thing led to another after meeting a few of the TV show stars, I was graciously given the ID cards shown below the stars wear in the show. 

Thought I would share with you guys.

As we head into the end of the 2025, I wish to take a moment to acknowledge everyone that joins us as a forum community.  Several things I have planned to add to BetSelection Forum that will, with certainty, make it a superior forum with additional platforms and entertainment, all related to gaming.  And it will all come to fruition in 2026.

I hope everyone takes care of themselves and their families with the utmost dedication.  When you are healthy, strong frame-mind matters. Each day BetSelection Forum, myself and Vic supports learning, connection, and belonging to a community. We appreciate our members, friends and other community partners who make our forum drama free, welcoming and safe. We wish everyone a restful break and look forward to great and extremely profitable 2026! 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!

Only clouds in the morning sky.  A bit unique IMO.

The Stardust: Vegas' Greatest Crime Scene

Check this out, some absolutely great details laid out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQaePnx2pRc

Fantastic!!

Everything explained in 8:00.

Fits well these days with the greed of the corporate 'jag-offs' that took over from the mob.

Vegas sucks now.  The mob needs to take it back.  Vegas ain't Vegas no more, IMO.  Thanks greedy corporate morons, seriously 100%!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HZRI0lNkCe4&pp=0gcJCSkKAYcqIYzv

Perfect SECTIONS defined as examples for everyone!

I did extremely well with this shoe based on my SECTIONS, as my guidance.