"In the real world a succession as WWWLWWWLWWWL...is not going to show up so frequently (actually it's very unlikely to happen), yet it remains the "standard" to look for."

The win pattern might not appear as you outlined (3W:1L) with frequency and/or consistently, longer W's can and do appear with 1/2 L's stuck in between.  IMO, to 'look for' a standard in W's is not to a persons best interest.


"When W is consistent, W streaks are longer than 3; when W is limping, W streaks tend to be shorter than 3." 

Absolutely, spot on.  Such as 5-7 W's and then when the W is limping, some how its guideline tends to be 1's. 


"Whenever L is strong, W suffers from this so showing up isolated or, worse, not coming out at all."

Absolutely spot on again.  However it is usually the emotional end of that propels most all players to forge ahead and enter greater and greater risks of his buy-in and/or his win until he gives back all his win.  NOTE: I see that exact scenario most every session I play with many regular players. 


"So we can sit serenely at the table knowing that "natural" probabilities will make way more likely to get W clustered and/or L isolated."

Way too many variables and individualistic wagering personalities come into play to generalize this, IMO.

"Anyway whenever such of a feature will be disregarded for one or two times in a row, the future probability to get the "expected" will be so enlarged that our probability of success will be as high as 85% or more (instead of the expected 75%). It's just a matter of time that things must line up with the expected results."

The problem with "expected results" IMO, is that, we never know what will be presented in the small amount of presentments we are gambling at, rather than sitting in front of a computer screen running tens of thousands of simulated hands, etc.  Once you begin classifying as - and +, the frustration for losses as well as the artificial momentums for wins, will usually be detrimental to most all in countless ways when a scheduled protocol is followed for wagering.  NOTE: IMO.

"Truth to be told, it's quite unlikely that a WLL..WLL...situation happens, especially if we take care of the asym/sym feature of the results."

It happens to me all the time.

"So luring us not to wait therefore betting something "more due" no matter what."

"More Due" is extremely profitable as well as detrimental.  Extremely psychological decision making subject.  Wagering decisions are the interpretation that occurs as a result of a combination of several factors usually. The mind (yours and mine) has an automatic tendency to interpret an experience (previous hands of the shoe) or series of experiences (past in relationship to now from other shoes). Attempt to consciously analyze the data from within the experience you are wagering upon at the table is extremely difficult, that is if you are analyzing based upon what the casino desires you to—-the past several hands, etc.  It may seem to you that your mind is simply trying to figure out the experience, but actually it is screening for evidence to support the decision you are clinging to. And what you were clinging to and what the presentments coming out of the shoe will be, are two entirely different events. That is why you need to realize what the shoe is presenting and leave all of your feelings, desires and statistics out of your wagering decision making process. I give the disclaimer IMO.  But my opinion is based upon decades of actual playing experience.

Last night a few people were arrested after a major fight amongst them on the casino floor at the Baccarat tables last night.  Scuffle city, lots of action!

Pretty much a normal game. Just started, crowded, all incurring wins and losses of course. Banter back-and-forth amongst most everyone. About half Asian the rest were a few Latinos and whites. Mostly all known players.

Very well-known player walks up and talks to one of the individuals seated. His look by far is not the average one that he normally has. There is a guy standing a few seats away that just threw in about $700/800-ish and won the hand. Then he wagers on the next hand and won that one as well. The guy standing up and wagering on someone's spot was extremely quiet while not making eye contact with anyone.

The well-known player standing says something along the way of, now you should pay what you owe. Another well-known seated player whom I know it's not friends with the one that was standing that just said that, told him that the chips the guy was playing with was his money that he gave the guy. 

Turns out the guy standing, did previously borrow about $3K from the guy that told him, now you should pay what you owe. And it was owed to him, he just didn't want to come out and say that at the table in front of everyone.  Someone that was at the table with us did walk over to the guy standing whom was owed the money that the guy now obviously had, said a few things in Laos to the guy trying to get him to stop building the situation up that was quite evidently happening. 

Still no response or eye contact from the guy that owed the $3K to the other guy. The guy was still standing there wagering hands. I'm sure the guy that walked over and talked to the guy the money was owed to, told him that the guy claiming to have previously loaned the money obviously did not. 

The guy that was owed the $3k, his face was turning red. Not so much about the money IMO that was owed to him, but about the lying and the refusal to say anything or look at him.

The guy that the money was owed to, walked over to the guy standing and wagering, then said I shouldn't do this and hit him smack in the face and repeated it a second time on the opposite side. The guy that owed the money returned punches and the guy sitting that claimed to have lent the money to the guy, stands and attempts to break it all up. We all get up from the table and form a semi circle because we know security and on-premise sheriff deputies would be running over within a minute or two.

All three are then began throwing full powered strikes at each other with the one who owed the money being knocked onto the table itself, causing numerous chips to scatter on the table and the floor. The dealer quickly grabs her chip rack cover and locks it down over the bank after loud verbal instructions from the pit boss. All kinds of personnel are running over to our table from inside the pit.

A few moments later several security and police officers arrive. All three of the players are handcuffed and lead away. The pit boss and security officers sort out the scattered chips and the chips that were belonging to the player seated, are put in a rack and given to one of the security officers.

Just another day around money I guess.

No party wound up pressing charges against the other I found out. All three received a 30 day ban from the property. It would have been permanent or for much longer, if any of the parties pressed charges and involved the criminal end of it.

I just have to post this link for the song that fits here, love the thoughts of the casinos and gaming included in it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9vqQlJijbU&list=RDw9vqQlJijbU&start_radio=1&pp=ygUQbW9uZXkgcGluayBmbG95ZKAHAQ%3D%3D

Seriously people, watch this. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NndCSi8WDcM

There are conceptually four distinct types of pleasure; Physical, Social, Psychological and Ideological. Pretty simple. Factual and well written about in the academic world.

Now, they are within us all while we gamble at a live casino baccarat table. 

Physical pleasure is at the bottom of the triangle, the largest portion of the space. The next is Social pleasure, the second from top is Psychological pleasure and on top with its smallest demand is your Idealogical pleasure. Each is unique in its own way.

Keeping in mind that all of us have varying restrictions and limitations to the physical end of the four types, we all would be about equal at a live Baccarat table with them. Therefore the reach, strength, ability to grip and our ability to sustain effort are pretty much minimal at the baccarat table putting that about equal between us all.  A given IMO.

The Physical Pleasure end is visually obvious at the table, winning as well as losing both produces visual appearances and actions that are absolutely obvious.  There really isn't much to control here.

The Social Pleasure end is the enjoyment and satisfaction we all seek and engage in whether that be at the baccarat table or elsewhere. Social pleasure is fueled by positive feedback and the company of others. The baccarat table provides just those unless you are losing, but you have to take the good with the bad.  Losing tends to offer support within the Social aspect.

The Psychological Pleasure end is instantly enjoyed at the Baccarat table beyond belief to any non-Baccarat player watching. It is the personality that seeks out immediate gratification of our needs of joy, gladness and just that plain ole feeling good. However, it is often contrasted with similarly inclusive pain, suffering and our feeling bad. Hence, winning and losing.

The Idealogical Pleasure end is perhaps the most powerful and detailed personalized pleasure by far of the four. The Idealogical Pleasure is related to values and beliefs that will be mixed from the classical right and wrong. The good and bad. The winning ways (decisions) versus those ugly horrible losing ways (decisions). In other words, it is what you think and practice that will determine your Idealogical Pleasure outcomes. It will affect you stronger no matter what you may think, believe or subscribe to within the game of baccarat and its presentments within each and every shoe.

When you/anyone is at a live baccarat table wagering money, the four types of pleasure that I outlined herein will be continually touched upon without a doubt. Subconsciously as well as consciously.

I can write all day long about each one, but for lack of input from all the readers here, I'm going to restrain myself and just outline what reminds me of advantaged play with a little guideline chart that I have for myself.

Most Mistakes/Mistaken

1). Play too long
2). Chasing losses
3). Chasing a singular win
4). When it's there, you fail to wager and/or pump it up
5). When it's not (NOT) there, you fail to stop
6). Constantly increasing Bankroll and Buy-in amounts
7). Failure to have a rock solid M.M.M.
#8).Failure to Reset and/or abide by your Tier/Plateau 

Best Defensive & Offensive

1). Keep game relatively short
2). Believing it will all change soon if you are 100% alert
3). Change your responses to be in control, you create what happens with your wagering and no one else does
4). Long term strength is M.M.M. applied and used as a protocol along with your emotions recognized and controlled while applying
5). You do not have to have all the knowledge and experience
6). Gear your mind towards the shoe, not a limited event(s) to occur or reoccur


Discover and align yourself with the various (1) Protocols - (2) Opportunities and (3) Reality of what a shoe presenting itself offers.  (4) Be Careful, (5) Be Conscious and (6) Be 100% Unbiased. Not easy but if you remember those you will give yourself true advantages IMO and experience.

There was a Sheriff who had a game,
and Bingo was the name-o.
B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
B-I-N-G-O
FULL OF CASH, FULL OF GOOD TIMES
And Bingo was the name-o.

Alabama sheriff misspent $5 million from county's bingo operations, audit report says.


https://www.al.com/news/2025/10/alabama-sheriff-misspent-5-million-from-countys-bingo-operations-audit-report-says.html

Highest majority of people who desire to gamble can certainly do it in almost every state now.  Why spend the extra for travel coupled with ultra price gouging past comprehensibility?  Another factor is flying.  Even for 100% compliant 'Real ID w/yellow star', it has become additionally burdensome all the way around. 

As far as higher line players, there are so many properties throughout the country offering max table limits all the way to $100k without anything special, no front money, no credit lines, etc., just of the street and buy-in. 

As far as concerts, shows and events-those too are all over the country in casinos nowadays as well.

Sure Vegas has some special things and one of a kinds, but once or twice done, it's all good for the majority IMO. 

As far as the younger Millennials and older GenZ, party/pool thing for 3 seasons a year, they will pay over the top prices I'm sure.  But the gambling isn't there in most cases. 

I was going to make a list, but here is a great article that outlines it all except for the first two I will add for higher line players.

1). They larger brands several years ago held the player's points to cover their issued comps, then once covered would release any excess points for players use on property (usually one point equaled $1.00).

2). The larger brands increasing player's average wagering for their usual comp levels they were at.

Link to great article.

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/this-might-be-the-las-vegas-strips-most-ridiculous-fee-yet


The silverware charges are absurd

There is also a, "put anything in the mini fridge charge". Which is way north of absurdity

And also the general price gouging on such things as show/event tix and pool charges.

There is more, but they did it to themselves, plain and simple.

Okay, I'm kinda surprised at the "dumbisticy" of the serious proposal here, but then again it's normal for those that wish.

Half-Billion Dollar Casino Rescue Plan Hinges on Boom. Analysts Predict Bust.  Sullivan County is telling investors there will be massive growth at a Catskills casino resort, but its own consultants predict decline.

Seriously, here is a piece from the in depth article.  "There's no collateral that the county or its taxpayers are responsible for," McPhillips said. "This is more to allow the casino to reconsolidate, reposition itself, and really invest in this property."  To reconsolidate and reposition itself?  To base grabbing a half billion dollars on the hopes it wins a NYC casino license enabling itself to spend billions more to build a NYC property?  All in the hopes to drag NYC table game players upstate.  What logic do they subscribe to?  Fairy tales of the lost world? 

.................."Because the parent company of Empire Resorts is a heavy favorite to win a casino license in Queens, the corporation reasons, Empire Resorts will soon have a database with a million new table game customers. It will be able to entice some of them to travel to the Catskills"................

Now I am beginning to understand their $26.00 per bottle of water charge.  And their early check in charges.  And their putting your items in their mini fridge charges.  And the original charge for nothing, the resort fee charge. 

https://nysfocus.com/2025/09/25/resorts-world-catskills-casino-bailout

I have to say this kid should be recruited into the CIA!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSGoVoasEAI

And another one related:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-SWQfOI9LQ&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D

No casino for Manhattan, period and end of story.

https://apnews.com/article/nyc-casino-mohegan-sun-united-nations-ebfa399297abd46957fbdaca17b9639a#

https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2025/09/final-manhattan-casino-plan-voted-down-by-community-advisory-committee.html

Gotta admit it, nice!

"GAMBLING IS NOT A VICE; IT IS AN EXPRESSION OF OUR HUMANNESS. WE GAMBLE. SOME DO IT AT THE GAMING TABLE; SOME DO NOT. YOU PLAY, YOU WIN, YOU PLAY, YOU LOSE. YOU PLAY." – JEANETTE WINTERSON, THE PASSION

UPDATE:

NEW YORK — A proposed Caesars Palace casino in Times Square that's backed by Jay-Z lost its bid for a lucrative New York City-area gambling license on Wednesday after running into fierce opposition from Broadway theater owners and producers who were worried about its potential impact on the theater district.

A state-commissioned community advisory committee rejected the $5.4 billion plan to redevelop an office tower into a Caesars-branded hotel, gambling and entertainment complex.


https://wtop.com/national/2025/09/jay-z-backed-plan-for-times-square-casino-loses-bid-for-nyc-license-amid-broadway-opposition/

You wrote: "I agree with most of your fine post. Some I may differ with a little. I agree limiting the uncertainty is extremely important. Even if we can't eliminate it we can do small things to lessen or lower said uncertainty."

"My belief is that we can apply the math of the game(Probability scales) yet stay in tune on "what this specific shoe is producing". Some times the shoe may initially present as skewed but will generally start settling in to the laws of probability expectations(or at least start approaching limits). Though sometimes the race is cut short and the runners run out of distance. So we may not get to see the comeback from the late-charging runners."

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If that was in response to what I wrote; "We tend to wager on what I would define as, expecting certain results. I do believe those are brought about by our inner subconscious and previous experiences with what is actually occurring. And I wholeheartedly believe that is where and why we go wrong on many wagers."

You are correct.  I was not referring to anything along the lines as to what you wrote about as I will wager countless times along the same lines.  Those are not absolutely attempting to coincide with the statistical beliefs of the game to have the shoes produce a 50/49ish outcome, etc.  What you are talking about is equalization, common sense and what most shoes eventually produce in their own secret or semi-secret order. 

But I was not referring to what you wrote to cancel out or not have as some kind of trigger.  Probabilities and staying in tune are spot on advantages.