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#61
Wagering & Intricacies / Re: Thought, Reasons & Reality...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - December 14, 2025, 09:58:32 PM
Hi Al!
Interesting comments from your part.

In the long run: well, for the vast majority of players the "long run" is way shorter than hundreds or thousands of shoes, not mentioning the complete unintelligent tests made on 100 million shoes produced by "we really do not know from where those F productions came out"...(of course I'm referring to math experts trying to extract an edge at side bets).
Laboratory tests are worthwhile only if they reproduce the exact LIVE situation we'll bet at, otherwise they lack of the irreplaceable replicability factor.

In a word there are subtantial differences among different bac productions wrongly considered as similar or correspondent. The long term B/P ratio (that almost always will approach more and more the 0.5068/0.4932) is not a valid tool to assess that different productions could be considered as similar.

Anyway I agree that each shoe is a world apart, yet knowing that itlr (say within 20-30 shoe ranges) some lines will be more likely than others should help, IMO.

Quit when you are ahead: That's the most st.u.p.id suggestion serious players can hear about games.
The related sentence should sound as "Stay when you're behind", the perfect recipe to destroy every bankroll in the world, naturally while playing without a verified edge.
When things go in our favor, maybe ti's better to stay and stay and stay.
So you are 100% right about that.

Trend following vs presentement recognition
I'll take this important topic in the way we did where the "presentement" word is an intricate parameter putting in relationship long term situations with actual situations: such parameter at selected spots will never ever be 1 (50/50 or, more correctly, 50.68/49.32).
Hard to do, I agree too. At least without the use of algorithms we can use at live tables.

Do not chase
As you sayed, surpassed certain narrow distribution lines (actual or expected), we have no reason to chase that is we have no reasons to get the "expected" when the shoe is "too" biased.
Probably the best rule to follow when playing baccarat.

Good thread.

as.
#62
Off-topic / Robert De Niro Explains the Ca...
Last post by alrelax - December 11, 2025, 06:23:31 PM
Fantastic!!

Everything explained in 8:00.

Fits well these days with the greed of the corporate 'jag-offs' that took over from the mob.

Vegas sucks now.  The mob needs to take it back.  Vegas ain't Vegas no more, IMO.  Thanks greedy corporate morons, seriously 100%!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HZRI0lNkCe4&pp=0gcJCSkKAYcqIYzv
#63
Wagering & Intricacies / Re: A Section
Last post by alrelax - December 11, 2025, 12:09:40 AM
Perfect SECTIONS defined as examples for everyone!

I did extremely well with this shoe based on my SECTIONS, as my guidance.

#64
Wagering & Intricacies / Thought, Reasons & Reality
Last post by alrelax - December 09, 2025, 11:46:50 AM
As Asym wrote in his Post #1433, the following: "Most of the times patterns move around low or very low levels of deviation, more appropriately by ranges of univocal situations happening for short frames.

"Trend following" players (probably 99% of all bac players) will win by hoping (or confiding) that homogeneous (or at least controllable) lines will be superior than heterogeneous lines, so wagering that winning ranges could take a longer than expected distribution.

The remaining 1% part will adopt a kind of system/approach/method/strategy based on B>P propensity, B/P gaps, B/P pattern deviations, RTM effects or other features. Obviously their enemy is strong negative deviations (ranges) not properly balanced by the searched (expected) results.

Definitely both different approaches are completely worthless itlr as bac tables continue to collect huge profits either from trend followers and from "system" players."

Yes, IN THE LONG RUN!  However, although we all play 'forever' in a sense, do not play for the long run.  Play for the instant date and time, play for the instant shoe alone, selective and individualistic.  Do not play for merging the results into your scorecard from the previous hundreds and hundreds of shoes/sessions.  What you are sitting in front of, has no rules, regulations, presentment scheduling protocol, etc., etc.

1). ONE HAS TO ADDRESS THE "Quit when your ahead". True, but a real double edged sword to the maximum! You will stop your potential win if you automatically do, simple. In baccarat you must win and win well when you are winning. Give back a little bit of the win, but have the experience to realize the risk and how reality plays being played out and keep it going without frustration, emotion and greed.  Refer to my rock solid M.M.M. to build and increase winning and realize when to call it quits for the session.

2). TREND FOLLOWING Vs. PRESENTMENT RECOGNITION.  Trends are always present, however a trend is not always there when we wager!  We all believe somewhat in following a trend to profit, but greater than 50% of the time, you will lose far greater than you will prevail. That is a guarantee. However, Presentments Recognition is a greater player advantage without a doubt. Hard to do, I agree. Trend following is a definitive exercise that is very emotional where upon you are basically setting the course that the shoe must conform to and you must follow as well. Presentment Recognition is wagering without judgment course setting. When I learned it I did much better with my results.

3). DO NOT CHASE.  Never ever!!!!  As I just said never ever. A negative martingale or two, but not a chase scene. Don't do it. Yes, I have done it in the past and I regret all the times I've done it. As I said before, the few times I have made up money, the amount of money I lost does not come close to all of the money that I've spent in the attempted chases.

Come on people let's win. Don't give the casino your risk capital. Win!
#65
Actual Baccarat Shoes / Re: Session & It was Great!
Last post by VLS - December 08, 2025, 03:58:05 PM
Congrats on the win! 👍

Every success is a blessing, and I'm truly happy for you 🤗

Life is good! 🌹✨
#66
Actual Baccarat Shoes / Re: Session & It was Great!
Last post by AsymBacGuy - December 08, 2025, 03:56:28 AM
Thanks Al.

Please, look at the actual shuffle machine involved.

as.

#67
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - December 08, 2025, 03:55:08 AM
Most of the times patterns move around low or very low levels of deviation, more appropriately by ranges of univocal situations happening for short frames.
"Trend following" players (probably 99% of all bac players) will win by hoping (or confiding) that homogeneous (or at least controllable) lines will be superior than heterogeneous lines, so wagering that winning ranges could take a longer than expected distribution.

The remaining 1% part will adopt a kind of system/approach/method/strategy based on B>P propensity, B/P gaps, B/P pattern deviations, RTM effects or other features. Obviously their enemy is strong negative deviations (ranges) not properly balanced by the searched (expected) results.

Definitely both different approaches are completely worthless itlr as bac tables continue to collect huge profits either from trend followers and from "system" players.

Sayed that, baccarat is a game where searched "ranges" of either fashion shouldn't be "chased" while not happening for long along the actual shoe, no matter how strong are the statistical/math laws or data suggesting that.
Such a statement shouldn't be considered as an endorsement to adopt a trend following strategy, simply that when in doubt (say 70-90% of the times or so) we must stay put so no wagering a dime.
For the same reasons, "system" players must know that any kind of advantage should come out by hoping that more likely ranges could be easily silent for quite long, in a word that we can't toss good money after bad.

A possible edge, in our opinion and according to our data, come out when we'll set up the delicate process of comparing more likely ranges with the actual production.
The fact that at baccarat "overalternating" sequences are the least distributions to face works as a sort of decisive "bonus" in order to get and edge.

Do not think that BP "chopping" long successions are the prototype of an overalternating mood coming out "so often".
Run the common 4 derived roads (bead plate, byb, sr and cr) and you'll see that a chopping mood is not so frequent and presenting so consistently.

Moreover, the A/S feature of patterns (at least in the way I suggested in this thread) will be invariably shifted toward getting low negative deviations of S isolated patterns being well balanced with the S clusters counterpart.

If we use a 0.75% probability and the A/S registration, a perfect overalternating mood will be a succession as AAASAAASAAAS..., a thing way more difficult to happen than a sequence as AAABAAABAAAB...

as. 
#68
Actual Baccarat Shoes / Re: Session & It was Great!
Last post by alrelax - December 08, 2025, 02:20:00 AM
I am not 100% sure at that property if it's a Light & Wonder shuffle machine. But I know on their mini table that they do a wash for an X amount of games per side for the alternating decks in the machine. As far as the midi table, of course those cards are trashed after each shoe.
#69
Actual Baccarat Shoes / Re: Session & It was Great!
Last post by AsymBacGuy - December 08, 2025, 02:10:08 AM
Good job, indeed.
Never heard about a 7/7 three card side bet, though.
Cards were distributed by Light Wonder shuffle amchine, right?

as.
#70
Actual Baccarat Shoes / Re: Session & It was Great!
Last post by alrelax - December 08, 2025, 01:10:02 AM
Couldn't fit this picture on the drive out to the property in the first post.

Bottom 2 on the way home today.  Stayed an extra couple of days, non gaming, full comp, great local area restaurants and lounges.  Good times but although I reside in a wintery weather region, the area we were at is supposed to get physically slammed tonight so we left.  Note the interstate message warning board.