Yep, your "Sections" tool is a nice idea to try to get a better picture of what is going on.
We adopt the same concept by assessing consecutiveness of certain outcomes.

Problem, obviously, arises whenever any kind of pattern assessment seems to fail (no long 1-2s sequences, no moderate/long streaks, no one side predominance, etc)
And altogether obvious is the fact that casinos will prosper a lot about such natural patterns being by far the most likely occurrence itlr.

That's why we came to the conclusion that betting at an EV- game needs to choose the same route taken by casinos: long term quality will overcome long term quantity; math edge is just an additional factor to win money from customers and not the principal cause.

Experience

Differently than NL hold'em poker, for example, very young players have a 0 probability to win at baccarat itlr.
Aggressiveness here is the sure recipe to go broke or to win a lot but just within short terms.

The best bac players are people who have experienced thousands and thousands of shoes and I mean "real shoes" and not using strategies obtained by simulated shoes, no matter how's sophisticated the software's production.
We've seen that it's very probable that bac productions will feature different levels of randomness and probability, so any mechanical approach disregarding such factor is destined to lose.

Of course a possible unrandomness or a kind of "undetectable randomness" needs a careful study in relationship of the actual conditions that do not necessarily link with the current patterns.
That's why something it's advisable to stay put for many hands (or even shoes) or at the very least to play some hands by an opposite line of what we've found to be profitable in our findings.

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as. 

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Biases and recognizing advantaged wagering IMO and experience are much easier to come about within my Sections approach to playing baccarat. 

But you have to be able to concentrate only on the present Section being presented.

See pictures for a few examples. 

Quality remains a totally ininfluent factor anytime the production is indipendent and perfectly 50/50 shaped for each hand, a thing that can't happen at baccarat no matter how cards are arranged.

Once 312 or 416 cards are shuffled into a shoe, a strong bias constantly acting towards more likely ranges is set up at the start, meaning that each succession is affected by a kind of unrandom element.

Such statement is supported (albeit taken at different issues than baccarat) by studies made by eminent math experts as RVM and MvS.

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A bias could show up by "natural" features (natural variance) or defects of shuffling, what is important to understand is that a bias doesn't always act towards LONG sequences of something but towards PREDOMINANT things of something.

In a word, that most of the times such a bias is quite balanced along any shoe dealt, meaning that what was won in the past will tend to get more losses than wins in the next successions.

Many times this assumption means that what many call as a "chaotic world" is just a bias that naturally go in the other direction.

The common trait helping us a lot is that the famous overalternating mood is the least likely to happen.

So even it might appear as an unsound approach, sometimes there are reasons to apply the reversal strategy, of course only whenever a preferred strategy stopped to work.

Once the "overalternating" opposite patterns betting had reached the 2 or 3 value, we'd better stay still or wagering towards the last side being clustered at least one time.

That's one of the best strategies I can suggest here, perfectly fitting the Gambler's Fallacy law where it's impossible to guess this or that by assessing previous outcomes.
So we can safely assume we're considered as clowns by casinos.

as.

There's no uncertainty when you look for patterns from a quality point of view

No matter how's random or unrandom the production we're facing, the quality performs way lower levels of variance than quantity. 

Quantity is beloved by short term players, quality remains a factor obviously needing more time to be properly ascertained in its inevitable fluctuations.

It's very likely that the few people making a living at baccarat prosper about "quality" parameters, making the  qualities "lenght" just a second-step possibility.

So basically the first thought shouldn't be focused about how long a profitable pattern will happen but WHEN a given pattern would be supposed to show up in relationship of the previous patterns and in constant relationship of the "expected" patterns.

Anytime we'll place a bet we must confide on the probability that patterns stop or show up by values capable to erase or better invert the HE; then the "quantity" factor remains just an additional element.

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as.

I enjoyed reading your thread.

Very often players forget that dealers are there to work so deserving the utmost respect.
In our opinion the vast majority of bac dealers are excellent employees even though there are some rare exceptions.

Now I'm looking forward for a post about floormen, Al!

as.

While we all have different thoughts, opinions and results at the Baccarat table in brick and mortar casinos, we all lose and win with influential events we are part of if we like it or not. Other players can easily bother us, as well as push our winnings higher with camaraderie. Lots of us choose to totally ignore other players or engage with them on a selective basis.

But we all still have to engage with the dealers. A dealer can easily make us feel positive, strong, no pain and compliment  ourselves. As well, a dealer can easily make us feel negative, weak, painful and regretting we even desired to play the session.

Most of us have our favorite Dealers at the properties we play at regularly. Favorite dealers are great IMO and experience.  On the other hand, we also have our not so favorite dealers at those same properties. Many say, play with your favorites and  not with the others, especially the non-favorites. Not always so easy especially when there is only one or two tables going. Maybe you were winning and desire to continue and the favorite  gets tapped out by that not so favorite and undesirable dealer. For me, easy to turn off the players, but not so much the dealer's actions and attitude. The dealers are taking chips and giving chips, The dealers control the flow of the hands, the dealers can impose regret extremely quick, the dealers can change my outlook and thoughts faster than anything else at the table.

There will always be the favorites, the not so favorites and the neutral ones. That will never change, never ever.

Okay.  The Dealers.

The Dealers That Really Do Care.

Make happy winning, make losing a bit less painful, their  emotions are basically the same as the players. Somehow it doesn't matter if there was both losing and winning players in a hand, they really do know how to remove your losing chips a bit less painful and how to shrug their shoulders.  They do not say offensive things. As well they know how to smile discreetly in front of those losing players for those that won hand.  They are normally on the side of a unanimous table that won the hand and as well they do not chastise a unanimous table if they lost a hand.

The Oblivious Dealers.

They tune out almost completely all the players. They do not engage the player's remarks, especially the negative ones about the dealer when they lose. Their non eye contact is for well-thought-out purposes. They very seldom make mistakes and if they really get chastised or they really get humiliated they just call the floor supervisor over to put a stop to it. All they really want to do is deal the game, take their breaks, finish the shift and go home.

The Negative Dealers.

They sweep the losing bets off the table with fast action. Lots of verbal comebacks for most anything said by the players. Such as, "I only deal the cards, you could have wagered on the winning side" or "don't blame me, I didn't tell you to bet your losing Wager", etc. Just about everything is done negatively  and against the player themselves by these type of dealers.

Dealers That Play Baccarat Elsewhere.

I have played with numerous dealers at other properties from my regular property and vice versa. Those will look continuously at the scoreboard while they deal. They voice their opinion with their friends and/or regular players and if asked by others of course. You can see their real pleasure in paying out larger wins, successful side bets, substantial color ups, etc. etc. Their regret for players losses are completely obvious as well.  The list goes on.  High-fives, fist bumps and eye contact are pretty much produced without a second thought continuously throughout all the games they deal.  Generally a special bred of dealer and great to play with IMO. 

The Super Player Conscious.

No matter what classifications are above, except those totally negative dealers of course, these dealers are truly being thoughtful, polite, understanding and most professional. Like when a player loses says, "thanks for playing" and  said in a non-offensive voice when the player gets up to leave. As well, asks the floor personnel If it's okay when a player bets a few seconds late as the first card is just on its way out, instead of a harsh verbal, "no bet,!" or a swipe back of the chips with the dealers other hand, etc. I think these are the dealers that have lots of experience and they're good people and know how to handle customer service a lot better than many other dealers do and take very few things on the personal basis.

MISC.

When it's slow in particular, nothing too exciting happening at the table talk is engaged in between dealer and players. Some of course they know from being regular players while others they know from the local community.

Girl Talk.  They talk to their friends playing usually always females about private things. Such as the salon they just tried that attended to their private area with waxing and how it felt, etc., etc.  Or about a supervisor going out with a dealer, etc. Just a couple of examples.

Guy Talk.  About various after hours clubs and bars in the community. About going to other casinos of course. About people splitting up, etc. About their part-time work. Cars, lawn equipment and house related item purchases of interest, etc.

It feels like after Covid, a big change has occurred in business philosophy where it's ok now to screw over the consumer at every opportunity with high prices and just as importantly, very indifferent customer service.

Maybe the big think tanks came to the conclusion that most people were quick to accept all the rules and regulations dished out through the pandemic and so think we will all roll over and just accept whatever else any of the big business corporations decide to roll out as well.

Either way, it's actually good to see people voting with their feet and maybe we can make them think again!

Asym,

 You are right about the waiting time concept. It has accelerated my learning and progress of understanding the EC's to a whole new level. Also Your quality over quantity remark is spot on and made me see once and for all that it really is beneficial in picking your spots very carefully if you really do want to get the very best of it. Thank you!

KungFuBac,

 The ''Terrific Two's''  I like it! That's a great terminology for them!

I do try and keep one step ahead knowing that whatever is currently happening is going to break off. Most of my play tends to revolve around the 2's and how to handle the chops with all their different guises and then the runs/streaks come last of all.

My personal opinion is that it's the runs/streaks that are going to cause most players the most problems even though that kind of sounds strange because someone might ask what's so hard about riding a run/streak. The thing is that if we take Asym's quality over quantity remark seriously (which I believe is right) then, there are not as many opportunities for us to profit with the runs/streaks compared to the two's and the chops.

cheers

Hi Bally6354. A very excellent thread.

I like your data recording format. IMO it is crucial for us to record the results in a clear manner. One needs to  quickly discern what is happening at a glance.

re: 2iar(in-a-rows). I've always viewed them as "terrific twos". In part, because they are a pattern we can quickly see. Plus as AsymBacGuy has written, they can often be the slightly-longer identifiable pattern vs other commonly identified patterns.

A secondary benefit of the terrific-twos patterns: They are a trigger for another bet placement that often presents shortly after the 2iars end(Though somewhat dependent on how far into the shoe and the patterns that have shown prior to the 2x2s). In other words as we see a lengthy 2x2 pattern present one should ask: What might happen next. I like to get into anticipatory mode as I await.


Thx for taking the time for a well thought out thread. Good comments everyone.


Continued Success To All,