Whatswhat, that is a very difficult sequence of W/L.I would have lost 19 Units after making 8 bets and would have not made anymore bets until further virtual bets had better results.
Anyway, thanks for posting real W/L outcomes.

P.S. I haven't fully disclosed my exact MM/Rules. The simple modified Labby with pause and resume is only a small part of the strategy.

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It's 1 billion % certain that itlr any progression in the world can't overcome a negative edge, otherwise the claimer would be hired by MIT or by NASA and getting payed millions of bucks without betting (so risking) any dime at bac tables.

The only way to verify a possible advantage at a negative edge proposition is to show a strategy capable to provide an ascending profits line by flat betting and the only way to do that is by theorizing a possible unrandomness of the production and/or to demonstrate that card distributions are affected by "limits" shifting at some points the results by values overcoming the HE.

If a given flat betting strategy sucks, the same strategy applied by any kind of progression sucks even more.

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You wrote: "Probably those who constantly win have learned to think that the HE is the least problem to face, yet we don't know a single successful player confiding that his/her main profit comes out from wagering the side bets."

And you are absolutely correct.  But side bets do appear frequently, not rarely in the 5 Treasures game.  I have done and do well with wagering 3-4 sides at a time.  But the main source of winnings will always be the base B/P wager.

Quote from: Bac2Bac on March 22, 2026, 05:26:58 PMCame away with +19 units.
Total decisions= 290
Total wins= 97
Total Losses= 123

I made 123 bets with 53 wins and 70 losses
Used Labby (0,1) biggest bet=7units largest drawdown =11units
Paused betting after 3 losses in a row and resumed betting only after a W or WLW had come out.(at times 30 or more decisions had passed before a W or WLW had come out)

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With your MM / Rules, go down to -700 ammazza drawdown with this sequence of W/L, real sequence I got.

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on March 22, 2026, 09:03:32 PMAnyway my posts abound of Marigny concepts as "isolated", "clustered" and the best of his philosophy that is the flat betting scheme suggested in his main book.
After all baccarat can't be compared with the roulette symmetrical productions, maybe here some of his ideas whether properly adapted might work.

May you direct me into these posts please?

Definitely baccarat is a game of skills, the few who have found out why this game could constantly be beaten know very well this.

Probably those who constantly win have learned to think that the HE is the least problem to face, yet we don't know a single successful player confiding that his/her main profit comes out from wagering the side bets.

Successful players know that a strict mechanical betting applied to every production have zero chance to overcome the HE.

Successful players know that patterns, being positive or negative, could last for "very long" but negative patterns are asymmetrically more harmful than positive ones (for the HE).

Successful players know that the occasional ultra positive patterns will be soon replaced by undetectable patterns that again could last for long.

Successful players know that "less is more", meaning that the probability to be right is inversely proportional to the number of bets placed on the felt.

More later

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Quote from: albertojonas on March 18, 2026, 11:14:39 PMCan you direct me to any information on these investigations, beside the books written on Marigny adaptations?

Unfortunately not, such tests were run several years ago at real roulette spins , I've tried to look for some links but without finding them.
Basically the trigger was set up at 3,5 sigma and even at 4 sigma then looking for a minimal correction under the MdG guidelines but no significant differences emerged than by using a random selection.

Anyway my posts abound of Marigny concepts as "isolated", "clustered" and the best of his philosophy that is the flat betting scheme suggested in his main book.
After all baccarat can't be compared with the roulette symmetrical productions, maybe here some of his ideas whether properly adapted might work.

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Came away with +19 units.
Total decisions= 290
Total wins= 97
Total Losses= 123

I made 123 bets with 53 wins and 70 losses
Used Labby (0,1) biggest bet=7units largest drawdown =11units
Paused betting after 3 losses in a row and resumed betting only after a W or WLW had come out.(at times 30 or more decisions had passed before a W or WLW had come out)

Good article about the Trump casinos back a few years.  Explains in brief reference their money activities. 

The Trump Taj Mahal casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times in its first year and a half of operation in the early 1990s, according to the IRS in a 1998 settlement agreement.

It's a bit of forgotten history that's buried in federal records held by an investigative unit of the Treasury Department, records that congressional committees investigating Trump's ties to Russia have obtained access to, CNN has learned.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal

every variance is easy in this case is just bet 1 time after 4L in a row, problem is that we can't know in advance which W & L streak we will get