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[klw]

Hello.

You wrote :-

"  Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? "

Really ! Maybe because a change of a word , sentence
, deletion of a part of the post or whole post maybe renders the reply inappropriate or out of context to the original posting or as in your case changes the meaning totally from the original.

I prefer 10 words to 100 words and so do others going by the amount of times the word " waffle " has been expressed but each to his own.

Why on earth would I want to comment/review on the markets. These are done by the theory boys and girls,they usually can't trade so fall back onto teaching and market commentary, if they were any good they would be trading and these are the people you subscribe to.I am not a fundamental trader, I care not about market news other than the time it is released.

Same with the Dong,I have no opinion on it, I don't follow it and don't or never have traded it,it is an illiquid market , one for the locals and crazy ride junkies. The spread is ridiculous and it represents a fraction of 1 percent of the forex market,why trade it when there are much better pairs to trade.

You are right when you say that pattern recognition plays a part , but it is not " all about pattern recognition " , did you know that only 1 third of head and shoulder patterns come to a successful conclusion,it is more than just patterns.

As regards giving " help " I was too quick off the mark with that,I am busy planning a long haul holiday and that takes priority at the moment , it will have to wait.

Just briefly gone through the marketing hype for M4 insider,please don't tell me that this is your secret investment link you wanted to sell ? Nine months the example fund has been going , no wonder you didn't want me to know about it and you paid $67 for that stuff ?

[XXVV]

Hello.

You wrote :-

"  Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? "

Really ! Maybe because a change of a word , sentence
, deletion of a part of the post or whole post maybe renders the reply inappropriate or out of context to the original posting or as in your case changes the meaning totally from the original.

I prefer 10 words to 100 words and so do others going by the amount of times the word " waffle " has been expressed but each to his own.

Why on earth would I want to comment/review on the markets. These are done by the theory boys and girls,they usually can't trade so fall back onto teaching and market commentary, if they were any good they would be trading and these are the people you subscribe to.I am not a fundamental trader, I care not about market news other than the time it is released.

Same with the Dong,I have no opinion on it, I don't follow it and don't or never have traded it,it is an illiquid market , one for the locals and crazy ride junkies. The spread is ridiculous and it represents a fraction of 1 percent of the forex market,why trade it when there are much better pairs to trade.

You are right when you say that pattern recognition plays a part , but it is not " all about pattern recognition " , did you know that only 1 third of head and shoulder patterns come to a successful conclusion,it is more than just patterns.

As regards giving " help " I was too quick off the mark with that,I am busy planning a long haul holiday and that takes priority at the moment , it will have to wait.

Just briefly gone through the marketing hype for M4 insider,please don't tell me that this is your secret investment link you wanted to sell ? Nine months the example fund has been going , no wonder you didn't want me to know about it and you paid $67 for that stuff ?

Delightful to get at least a partially sensible response to my earlier generous invitation.

We are making progress.

I hope you enjoy your long haul holiday. Airline stocks are rising and Air NZ is one of the very best, well deserved. Qantas next I think. Some prefer Asian or Arabic airlines but not me. I used to fly first class on Air Nuigini - now that was cool.

Back to your note yes and the partly pattern recognition is of course where you are quite correct. Nothing is black and white is it?

You are quick to deride M4 based on a superficial observation but I am sure you would recognize if you were a full member that it is a virtual wealth vault and sure there are some trinkets for all sorts, and also some pearls, but of the many hundred variations they offer there is but one that has special value. That is where I was trying to assist others to see.

M4 has a format which is multi -partitioned but also somewhat hierarchical so that for new members material is accessible after, 30. 60, 90 days and so on in order to prevent a novice from racing ahead too fast ( and possibly getting into trouble) because there is such an array of information and linkages within. They are a friendly and very down to earth organisation, US based. I have known the team for several years and have found their communication excellent. There is such a wide range of interest and material on board ( all vetted by the team) that the selections and choices may take some time to work through.

The membership is world wide and quite substantial with access cost very small. Your sneering response to their introductory website is just silly and instead for very small outlay a reader can find examples of all levels of investment activity but of course I acknowledge it is material not for everyone.  My personal view is that time spent picking through their offerings for a month trial for example would be worthwhile. No more need be said.

Again, let me state there was no charge for access to M4 and other material - the real answer was dependent on who replied. My intention was to put most off, and all those that wrote gave a little information to me and I provided all details to them free. There we go. Simple. Let me put it another way. No one who wrote to me was refused access to the information I provided, ie no one was asked for money! One day it is my hope you may finally get this although it really doesn't bother me, or anyone else actually except you , GG and MM, and as I say it is an impasse so why continue to mention it.

Now, regarding currencies as noted, I do not trade but hold these, and accumulate.

Sincerely, have a great holiday.

XXVV

[klw]

Hello all -- I reproduce a post below from XXVV's thread the " Power of Roulette "



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Re: The Power of Roulette
« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2015, 12:17:15 am »

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Thanks Tomla.

I will try to provide a few little worthwhile bits of information that catch my eye and which may add to the Forum Members' experience and knowledge.

End of week close on DJI was lukewarm and recall August is always a time of holiday and lower volumes in Europe and USA. But there were again good interviews on CNBC, with in a few cases aggressive or even downright rude (not to a New Yorker) questions. The oil price and oil stocks bounced up a little reflecting oversold conditions and opportunities.

I have a Facebook colleague Ronnie Moas who really is the bete noir of CNBC and other so called expert  media business channels such as CNN. He cuts through it all like a hot knife through butter and actually blacklists stocks like Apple, Amazon and Starbucks for their appalling treatment of staff and exploitation of offshore labour in some situations with their massive cash reserves, fat cat principals and minimum staff wages and conditions, or worse for Amazon. I personally boycott all these products as with several others Ronnie mentions.

Ronnie Moas with his winning ( top #1) research company StandPoint Research **and portfolio strategy has a manner being interviewed by the amateurs with a face intense and sometimes angry, and a black cloud over his head; thunder and lightning bolts flashing and crashing.

Look him up.     ** the SR website is fascinating with many philanthropic specific applications

Also here is a thought for you. Research my friends M4insider.com or M4research.com.

If you want to join ( it is inexpensive and can be a monthly sub)) through the website you will be able to access from several pathways -  plans, programs, methods that can suit your personal risk exposure choice with a clear statement of costs, anticipated returns, and reviews. I am a platinum level member and through M4 have found highly valued further treasure.

They have a wealth chest of investment and research constantly being reviewed and added. The latest today is a managed account futures program access and all contact details. The team at M4 are genuine, fresh and very helpful. Their site used to be called the Wealth Vault.

This is one of my two private recent recommendations . The other one remains confidential.

One quality from this weeks Dow Jones trading has been 'volatility' to which the Traders assign a value index. Even today in a narrow trading range the volatility was still expressed and I am advised this factor quotient has been at a level not seen since 1987 with the crash. Make of this what you will but I would sincerely caution 'buy and hold' approach because there will be an enormous crash soon. Maybe its the HFT, and Machine v Machine.  However I know it. So take care and do your research. As with roulette, if unsure do nothing and wait for the proven signals.
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Now please read the posts in this link,especially the ones where " scam " , " fraud " , " liar " , " cyber scammers " and " The FED " are mentioned. I promise it won't take long.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/message-ponzi-pimp-brad-weiman-scammer-1086/

Interesting right ?

Now here is he same guy that owned The Wealth Vault admitting he's the co-founder of M4Research.

His name is  Wajnman by the way.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/m4research

Now you will see a graph showing excellent results and

at face value would interest anybody BUT to explain

how he is trading to get those results goes like this.

He is using a grid ea , EA is an expert advisor or to

you roulette guys a bot. A very cheap and basic level

entry bot written in MQSL for the Meta Trader a

beginner level trading platform. MQSL is a scripting

language only and is notoriously unstable and can be

manipulated by the broker causing you potentially huge

losses unless you pick the right broker or the right

programmer.

Grid EA's work similar to a Martingale in roulette.The

market goes up and the bot places orders to short the

market at different price levels as it rises at

INCREASING stake sizes , so when it does turn, a

profit can be made and the market often ranges and so

lots of little profits, BUT what happens when the

market keeps rising ? Yes you guessed it, massive

losses and account wipe out and losses on a highly

leveraged account could mean bankruptcy !!! This is

what XXVV is constantly pushing to you forum guys in

his many posts. M4Insider and M4Research is littered

in all his posts along with others which I have yet to

investigate due to time restrictions.

Another thunderous post XXVV ?

So what exactly is your interest and connection to M4

/ The Vault XXVV ?

There seem to be numerous posts about you wanting to "

help " forum members which involves introduction

through yourself, at least 1 was for money. Why don't

you name them so that we can have a look at those as

well ?

[greenguy]

Thanks for your counter-informative posts klw, you are a good man. 

[XXVV]

Interesting.

KLW you have spent a lot of time in trying to dig up something that is wrong or unethical.

Your motivation.  If it is to protect the quality and integrity of this Forum then good work, and I respect that principle.

I am well aware of the earlier publicity regarding wealth vault and the early problems they had. That was part of my due diligence conducted several years ago before I decided to join with them on a toe in the water approach. You may be amused but I suspect not that with some irony in my own fraud research with regard to CEH and the 'Swiss Scammers' and their blatant use of the Brighton branch of HSBC, I had come across 'Wealth Vault' as one of the websites that indirectly the scammers had contact with, as well as a couple of other links such as web host and some financial blogs that were US and Canadian based. In fact I joined a Canadian property group that was formed by a retired policeman in Canada as they had a much more likely link to CEH et al.

Recall the Swiss scam must have taken in several million USD and I understand German roulette enthusiasts were particularly hard hit after I researched the traffic and origins on the original website used for the scam ( while it was still in operation).

My research indicated at that time ( over 3 years ago) that the scammers distributed their funds in various financial outlets and thus had used the Wealth Vault as a source of information at one time in order to find outlets for investment, just as all other customers do.

HSBC is well known to have acted as a no questions asked bank for use by drug cartels as reported by Max Keiser on RT.com and it astonishes me how brazen were these acts and of course they were fined accordingly.

The two founders of Wealth Vault over the years have vastly improved their website and quality of information content.

Quite openly and directly Brad W. has commented on past bad publicity and in my opinion he and his team have moved on and very professionally have upgraded their information source to M4 and in the past 6 months have updated and improved their website.

I am grateful to their open and refreshingly down to earth communications and through them I have found extremely valuable information to assist my own investment work. That is my opinion and because of the good will I have become a Life Member of their group M4 which entitles me access to all their information, experience, links and discounts.

Unless you have access to the full website you are in no position to comment as to the merit or otherwise of what is presented.

My own time is very valuable and at this stage of the year I am extremely busy so do not have time to deal with this issue you have raised but suffice to say I will advise Vic of my concern for your action and direction which in my view is misguided and unfortunately personal.

I will advise Brad of your post in as much as you have named him and see what unfolds.

When people do good work as Brad and his team do, it is most unfair that they are criticised and reference is made to silly past internet publicity where there will always be entities that have no good to say. Fair enough if facts are accurate but I believe the material that criticised WV was inaccurate.

Certainly in the present I have heard no critical comment about M4 and I personally rate their service and level of communication very highly. I have no commercial vested interest or affiliate relationship with M4.

Regarding my own work, well  as earlier stated the steps I have taken this year, the connections made, and the plans ahead are the most exciting yet in an already wonderful life.

Perhaps you would like to comment on that.

[XXVV]

This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread you have established. No one is interested. There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me, and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay, attempt to discredit me.

There is so much you do not know.

Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money.

I have formally complained to Vic who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules or etiquette much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody.

If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly  cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish.

I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.

I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits.

Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.

All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.

[greenguy]

This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread (personal attack) you have established. No one is interested. There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me (personal issues), and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay (personal attack), attempt to discredit me.

There is so much you do not know.

Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money.

I have formally complained to Vic(poor Vic) who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules(you just called me green gay, which I find thoroughly offensive, not to me, but to all homosexual persons made to feel being gay is somehow derogatory or joke worthy. I have never called you xxcocksucker for instance, though I probably should have by now. I might just make a little complaint to Victor myself) or etiquette(see previous comment)  much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody. (passive aggresive)

If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly  cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish.

I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.

I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits. (most of them are me)

Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.

All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.

[Rolex-Watch]

No one is interested. There are hardly any readers.

Speak for yourself, I read them wondering what motivates somebody to post so much without revealing anything, other than "ooh look at me".  Also there are more, a lot more Roulette boards in the cyber-world which are frequented a lot more than this, this board really has a small roulette audience compared to them so again I wonder why....

The highlighting and directing to those 'M4' sites is contentious...   

[klw]

Interesting.

KLW you have spent a lot of time in trying to dig up something that is wrong or unethical.  ( It didn't take long at all , it's all on Google )

Your motivation.  If it is to protect the quality and integrity of this Forum then good work, and I respect that principle. ( Thanks )

I am well aware of the earlier publicity regarding wealth vault and the early problems they had. That was part of my due diligence conducted several years ago before I decided to join with them on a toe in the water approach. You may be amused but I suspect not that with some irony in my own fraud research with regard to CEH and the 'Swiss Scammers' and their blatant use of the Brighton branch of HSBC, I had come across 'Wealth Vault' as one of the websites that indirectly the scammers had contact with, as well as a couple of other links such as web host and some financial blogs that were US and Canadian based. In fact I joined a Canadian property group that was formed by a retired policeman in Canada as they had a much more likely link to CEH et al.

Recall the Swiss scam must have taken in several million USD and I understand German roulette enthusiasts were particularly hard hit after I researched the traffic and origins on the original website used for the scam ( while it was still in operation).

My research indicated at that time ( over 3 years ago) that the scammers distributed their funds in various financial outlets and thus had used the Wealth Vault as a source of information at one time in order to find outlets for investment, just as all other customers do.

HSBC is well known to have acted as a no questions asked bank for use by drug cartels as reported by Max Keiser on RT.com and it astonishes me how brazen were these acts and of course they were fined accordingly.

The two founders of Wealth Vault over the years have vastly improved their website and quality of information content.

Quite openly and directly Brad W. has commented on past bad publicity and in my opinion he and his team have moved on and very professionally have upgraded their information source to M4 and in the past 6 months have updated and improved their website.

I am grateful to their open and refreshingly down to earth communications and through them I have found extremely valuable information to assist my own investment work. That is my opinion and because of the good will I have become a Life Member of their group M4 which entitles me access to all their information, experience, links and discounts.

Unless you have access to the full website you are in no position to comment as to the merit or otherwise of what is presented. ( Correct , but I've seen enough just by reading the run of the mill front end presentation of " free reports etc " and " all this for $37 !!! )

My own time is very valuable and at this stage of the year I am extremely busy so do not have time to deal with this issue you have raised but suffice to say I will advise Vic of my concern for your action and direction which in my view is misguided and unfortunately personal. ( It's not personal,just trying to warn readers against a web site that is being run by people that have fraud and scam allegations made against them and is being constantly touted and promoted by you in almost every other post you make and that you as a poster wanted $1000 for an introduction for information leading to a fantastic alternative investment vehicle and when challenged by me for some basic information on this alternative investment vehicle you then proceeded as a moderator to delete my posts , edit yours constantly to backtrack and become elusive , lock the thread and finally delete it to erase my challenges to you and your solicitation of the $1000. Readers can make their own mind up from this paragraph, everything I have written is the truth as it has unfolded,not your twisted versions )

I will advise Brad of your post in as much as you have named him and see what unfolds. ( Go ahead )

When people do good work as Brad and his team do, it is most unfair that they are criticised and reference is made to silly past internet publicity where there will always be entities that have no good to say. Fair enough if facts are accurate but I believe the material that criticised WV was inaccurate.

Certainly in the present I have heard no critical comment about M4 and I personally rate their service and level of communication very highly. I have no commercial vested interest or affiliate relationship with M4. ( This we will never know )

Regarding my own work, well  as earlier stated the steps I have taken this year, the connections made, and the plans ahead are the most exciting yet in an already wonderful life.

Perhaps you would like to comment on that.

[klw]

This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread you have established. No one is interested. ( There obviously is )  There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me, and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay, attempt to discredit me.

There is so much you do not know. ( yes that does intrigue me, what about some basic details as originally requested , I would be the first to endorse them if they have merit and will end all this )

Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money. ( When I have something concrete on roulette I will )

I have formally complained to Vic who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules or etiquette much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody. ( Yes I have also written to him )

If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly  cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish. ( I have proven that I have vast experience of the financial markets,I know a hell of a lot more than you do , you are just a bitter person and your postings reflect that )

I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.

I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits.

Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.

All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.

[VLS]

Hi guys, both of you are trying to make some good; the fellows are actually trying to protect our community from what is perceived to be a possible "scheme" of sorts. XXVV also seems honest in trying to do some good with his sharing of what he perceives are opportunities.

Both sides have been welcome to post their case, readers have been warned, let's put the case to rest (thread is now locked)



On a final, lighter note. Thanks a lot for caring about this community and aiming at making a positive contribution. I see nothing but good intentions on both sides.

A hoping-to-focus our good-willed people to better threads,
Vic