The reality of on-line casinos

[alrelax]

The sheer reality, most do not want to recognize, personally online casinos for a large part are a hoax. Go ahead and play them, but know who you're playing with and if the companies are regulated or not.

https://www.barstoolbets.com/blogs/2502679/a-table-is-about-to-hit-the-dollar350000-bad-beat-jackpot-when-the-player-with-a-straight-flush-magically-disconnects-and-his-hand-folded

[8OR9]

1.In my humble opinion, anyone who bets online such as baccarat, roulette, or a slot machine is a moron and deserves to lose all his money for being an unintelligent. The only.exception is betting on sports on line where you bet on   real events and not a random numerator generator.                                                                 

However there are have been numerous scandals of lower tier tennis and soccer ( football as it called in the rest of the world besides the USA ) which have been fixed ( players who have gambling debts and can't pay them so they throw the game and the gamblers bet on the other side.),,,,, so even betting on sports can be dangerous if you are not sure if the game is rigged.

2. Barstoolsports mentioned in the post above was owned by Dave Portnoy who sold it to Penn Gaming for a few hundred  million $ and is trying is hand at day trading as in the link below.

https://www.businessinsider.com/barstool-sports-founder-dave-portnoy-tries-day-trading-and-loses-2020-4

A few days after this link was posted he lost a million $ in one day and the next day won back the    million $,,,,,,,that's what I call high variance .

And if you think horse racing is honest , read this

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/horses/horse-racing/2020/03/11/horse-racing-scandal-jockey-club-helped-investigators-scandal/5016435002/

Or this about one of the top trainers in the USA

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kentucky-derby-favorite-charlatan-1-of-2-bob-baffert-horses-to-test-positive-for-banned-substance-000210214.html

[Albalaha]

On line casinos are nothing different than landbased casinos at fundamental level. Those who can not win decisively could blame that very easily. So far as unregulated casinos are concerned, they should be avoided. Apart from predatory RNG they do have payment related issues too and could easily avoid paying and answering too.
                I have experience with over 300 online casinos wherein I have played with over 50 casinos for long stretches of time and found them non problematic except certain hiccups. So far playing RNG is concerned, it can easily be manipulated. If we talk of live dealer ones, specially to play baccarat, I would anytime prefer them for landbased ones. It could be my own perception based on my experiences. I found landbased casinos more offensive and unfriendly for a regular player specially if he wins regularly as well. Those high rollers who go to casinos for entertainment and do not mind losing some money, land based casinos are the best place to play. Fun of a real casino is not comparable to any online casino.
               If someone is looking to play online there could be certain parameters that has to be evaluated beforehand. They include the mode and speed of deposits and withdrawals, their limits, issue of banning winners, internet stability while playing, maintenance etc.
In nutshell, randomness is common among all and unless one knows how to win in the long run, he has same fate be it online casinos or landbased real one.

[8OR9]

The problem with online casinos is that the result of a decision ( player or banker in baccarat, or the spin of a roulette wheel etc ) is not dependent on the hand dealt by a deck of cards or the spin of a roulette wheel, but the result is determined by the RNG and the cards or the roulette ball is displayed according to the result of the RNG ,,,,and the RNG knows in advance how much is bet on player or banker or how much is bet on a roulette number or even chance.

Personally i would have to be crazy to play that type of game.

At least with live land based casinos, you are assured of getting an honest game ( doesn't mean you will win, but at least you didn't get cheated.)  And you don't have to wait 1 or 2 weeks to get your money,,,you can cash out in a few minutes and you don't have to worry about the online casino stealing your money such as this famous case involving online poker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt_Poker

Actually in high stakes poker, you have a very good chance of being cheated in a live casino poker game or a home live game  where 2 or more players are playing as a team and giving signals to each other as far as to what cards they are holding as well as various other means of cheating.

Basically it all means you can't trust any company or any person when money is involved.,,,,,especially lots of money.

[Albalaha]

I do play RNG roulette in ................. as well as live dealer one in other casinos. I have never played baccarat RNG and believe most of the baccarat players opt live dealer than RNG.

the result of a decision ( player or banker in baccarat, or the spin of a roulette wheel etc ) is not dependent on the hand dealt by a deck of cards or the spin of a roulette wheel, but the result is determined by the RNG and the cards or the roulette ball is displayed according to the result of the RNG

Result of a decision is always random irrespective of your expectations be it RNG or real casino. RNG can manipulate is an easy excuse for losses. If you win in the long run in real casinos and RNG makes you lose forcibly, cursing RNG could be justified. Further, online casinos do not just have RNG for roulette and Baccarat but live dealer too with common results for all.

[alrelax]

My original post is this:

The sheer reality, most do not want to recognize, personally online casinos for a large part are a hoax.

 Go ahead and play them, but know who you're playing with and if the companies are regulated or not.

I stand by what I said and it is factual.

As far as:  "I found landbased casinos more offensive and unfriendly for a regular player specially if he wins regularly as well."  I find this quote to be extremely the exact opposite of what I ever seen or witnessed in over 40 years of playing at casinos, having members of my own family employed with lifelong careers in casinos, as well as having numerous friends and acquaintances that have inside knowledge in Casino compliance, rules and regulations, and share those with me in general discussions, as well as reading the extensive official documents in most all jurisdictions on the internet with Casino gaming regulations control bureaus.. 

We're not going to get into a long drawn-out, nowhere argument over it because each of us are probably talking about different properties around the world. But like I said, in the United States this would be extremely a rare occasion where the regular player turns up noxious, is uncontrollable and does things that the casino cannot risk having him on the floor, etc., as he is offending other players that is about the only reason outside of violence or continued obnoxious drunkenness, where he is again uncontrollable that the Casino would ban or ask him to leave and normally that would be for a very short period of time.

If he does serious enough violations,  then he would be banned for a longer period of time or even on a permanent basis from that particular Casino brand. As far as a regular player that wins consistently and he is not doing anything that I mentioned above, at least to the point of offending other players the casino would do just the opposite. A casino would roll out additional red carpet and welcome him with even larger comps, larger valued promotions that he receives in order for him to come and play and stay longer hours and risk larger sums of money.

Again my experiences here in the United States not outside of the United States.

[Garfield]

I dare to say there are plenty online casino that legit.... only play with live dealer... I avoid anything beside that....

One should check and re-check about where he's playing...take it for granted and you'll be sorry....

But still, if no-one is buying, the scammer online casino would only a short life span...

[ADulay]

As I've been playing online baccarat for many, many years now, I'll have to kind of go against the grain here.

Obviously any of the online RNG games are to be avoided even if they are perfectly legitimate, the idea of wagering against a "neutral" computer just doesn't appeal to me nor do I get a warm and fuzzy feeling about it at all.

With that said, I have no problem playing online baccarat WITH LIVE DEALERS that are verified with background video and a good record of payments to winning players.

I'm lucky in that my normal online casino has been in business for a very long time and I've personally not had any problems with them at all.

There is a leap of faith you may have to take in order to get your account "OK'ed" for deposits and payments but once you're through that hassle, it can be a good way to play.

I've found that I really don't like being at a table with boorish players, dirty chips moving back and forth and the travel time to and from the casino.   A leisurely hour at a comfortable table with my papers at the ready, and in a smoke free environment, works out better for me.

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[8OR9]

At your online casino, how long does it take to receive a withdrawal..........and is it by check or direct deposit to your bank?

[Cameron Dennis]

Online poker works exactly the same as live poker. The rules are the same and the biggest difference is the different promotions offered by poker rooms when you first register. Also, tournaments tend to run more smoothly and player traffic is higher.

[Cameron Dennis]

I prefer playing online casino, it's more convenient and the feeling is the same, I think that is the future.