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Started by VLS, March 27, 2013, 10:05:27 PM

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Albalaha

Sputnik,
              Why don't you demonstrate how u will do in this session with your "regression" while playing on "black"? With Flt betting, anyone see that I am winning betting on Red only. I am not a fan of flat betting but you seem to be awestruck with "regression". Now do that and prove your point and educate all of us, how it is better than flat betting here.
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Sputnik

 
I would not play black with your example, still you twist it and say i should.
Lets say we play the same winning and losing bets and compare results.
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I just show you that one loss cancel out one win when you flat-betting.
The other side is when the distribution goes zig zag you break even flat betting and you capitalize with regression.
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That is two points i made that make regression superior towards flat betting.
Now with regression you would use Up&Pull when the hot strikes hit and capitalize way beyond flat betting.
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I will pick some examples to illustrate it ...

Cheers

Albalaha

QuoteI will pick some examples to illustrate it ...
You will give suitable examples for your "regression" and I can give those not so suitable for you, so what does it prove? Everything is proportional. No betselection or money management is better than all others in all situations. Do not confuse yourself and others. It seems everybody is enjoying creating an "indigenous set of fallacies".
                                Public forums are sadly not growing as places to educate and learn from each other than "fallacy mongering group", showing new approaches of losing money faster than ever in gambling.
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Sputnik

 
Why don't you write something we don't know, that has been known for the past 300 years ...

Albalaha

Regression, progression or flat betting, nothing is perfect and none helps in winning in long term with any surety. You can't use anyone blindly considering that the best.
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MarignyGrilleau

when it loses, it all loses the same. But when flat bet wins, regression wins more risking the same.
Seeking for proof? Just test it and see.
Cheers

Albalaha

I have dozens of trackers/bots made to see any bet in long run. Advise this to others.


         Flat bet doesn't win in long run by any well defined method. Prove it and I will stop writing or advising anything on any forum for my entire life.  :thumbsdown:
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MarignyGrilleau

You seem to understand something beyond what i just wrote. Read it again.
Pick up the bots and the trackers. Get any winning session flat bet. Then apply regression up&pull to it. then compare.
Cheers


Albalaha

If something wins flat bet, in a particular session it is the quality of the session. Any positive progression like parlay and reverse labouchere can also do very well (depends upon frequency and consecutive wins).
                 Do not talk of dream sessions. Being realistic, most sessions will suffer variance/dispersion and house edge will kill flat betting, than not.
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Sputnik


QuoteYou seem to understand something beyond what i just wrote. Read it again.
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I agree he twist things that has nothing to do with the subject and of course you can illustrate some loss and winning sequences and its not about winning or losing method - its about comparing flat betting and regression Up & Pull

Albalaha

You came, made a statement and when your statement felt flat, new set of excuses. Anyways, Flat betting won't win in long run. House edge ensures this. You need to use progression (mild or harsh, choice is yours), in attempt to win. If you are lucky enough, you won't get huge unbearable variance and ultimately win, otherwise losses are meant for you.
                                         Trying to perpetually win with flat bet is like trying to paddle a boat with hands.
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Sputnik

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on March 30, 2013, 02:36:59 PM
You seem to understand something beyond what i just wrote. Read it again.
Pick up the bots and the trackers. Get any winning session flat bet. Then apply regression up&pull to it. then compare.
Cheers

MarignyGrilleau he still keeps talking about other things then simple fact to compare two different staking plans ...
No idea keep answering him as he does not understand.

Albalaha

I understand everything. You should not make statements which your not sure of yourself. In a favorable session, even the silliest stuff wins. What are you trying to establish?
              Everything is proportional in gambling, be it flat bet or martingale. Every technique has its advantages and disadvantages, in different situations. Do you have anything to counter this statement of mine, which I am saying since beginning?
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