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[Turner]

A clue....wouldn't we at least of heard of anyone who had subscribed to CEH through the forums all the way back to Vics place or GG? recognize  them...know their name? Huh?

[TwoCatSam]

The CWB is like the Loch Ness monster.  But there is a law against harming the monster.

[Bally6354]

The CWB is like the Loch Ness monster. 

LoL....

The time to start getting worried is when a new poster called 'Big Foot' turns up with some clues!

Funny enough....the name Vermeer rings a bell....but not from the forums.

He might have posted in some of the Q+A pages on the CEH pages.

Don't ask!! I have a long memory.

[warrior]

Look guys I was one that contacted CEH from  the start  the guy gave nothing away

This guy on GG this sham whatever is name is, is not the same person, and razors bet is built on this persons concepts.

There is nothing CEH posted on his web sight saying this or anything else's.

The only time CEH said anything to me in an email was when I ask him where the hell am I looking inside or outside bet , like Twocatsam said how do we know where to find something if we don't know where to look.

CEH response to me was that it was INSIDE bet! That's how he wrote this.

Did I find this bet? Hell, yes did -- I made 3 million. Dream on until someone shows me proof of this it will never be believable.

The only person to to have won 50 million from a Las Vegas casino was a whale from Australia, and that you can find proof of this CEH no proof what's so ever .

[Carlitos]

Let him post this " CWB " bet that he has gotten in return of his payment.
Lot of people were hoaxed at that time, i talked to someone from Canada who claimed to have made money transfer and never saw anything that looked like the CWB.

A lot of people claim to have the CWB bet, but build this bet around their own ideas.
Somehow they want to implement their own ideas into it.

Its like they are jealous or something or have an ego thing and at first they show off that they have the CWB bet and then start talking about their own bet etc...

I am interested Jon, so if you can and will, post the bet.....

Carlitos 

[Chrisbis]

@JonVermeer

First of all..............may I welcome you to the forum, [smiley]welcome/smiley-welcome.gif[/smiley],  and I hope you able to enjoy your stay here.

You have obviously been keeping tabs on the forum prior, and I can see you know some of the players involved in the whole W3M scam.

All we ask, (and I say this as a Roulette interested person, not just as a Mod), is you present what you have in a subjective and honest manner.

Any and all of your words/threads will understandably be subject to intense scrutiny, as well as some ridicule.
Its the nature of the beast............or the Monster, as Sam rightly points out.

What would be wonderful, is for there to be an understanding of what the supposed CEH bet was, how it has morphed
and what its become.

So.........Jon V, do your best at showing something of substance, and worthy of further discussion.

The process should be relatively painless, and I know the Mods will adhere to our side of the deal,
and remove/edit anything that turns out to be unsavoury.
I look forward to your forthcoming posts.


Chris [smiley]welcome/handshake.gif[/smiley]

[Jonvermeer]

When I posted last time, I think I have made a mistake.
I wrote:
If you all interested, I will post the CWB bet tomorrow."
I should write:
If you all intersted to see and learn, I will post the CWB bet tomorrow for free to all who want to study about it.
After all of these years of believing, trusting, studying, following I just want to give up, and find some other worthwhile ventures for myself and my family.
and if you are reading this, Charles, Simon, or Helen or Elizabeth or whoever in your well-planned-organization, especially Charles, you told me: "NOT to reveal the bet, that will be very foolish indeed"

I have to say that I truly admired your vast, solid knowledge about the Roulette-game, your great advices on page 7, your info on page 3, and of course your website, PPPC club, Simon your son's forum that was able to fool
a lot of people.
I have kept the promise that I will not reveal the CWB to anyone even with my family members for 3 years, but after all the time and efforts and labor, all I have is just a shattered-dream, a sophisticate-gamble-bet that you refused to explain more clearly even though I have asked over and over.

When posting the bet, I will not feel guilty AT ALL.
I feel good and feel clean.
What's good in it if I keep the bet unknown and bury with me in my grave?
Whoever smart, brilliant enough to benefit from the bet, that is his/her rewards.
Me?
I have had enough.

[HansHuckebein]

I'm more than interested. 

thanks and cheers

hans

[NathanDetroit]

Hello Jonvermeer.
Welcome to the forum.
Thank you for your decision to reveal the bet that CEH gave you all those years ago.
I hope you follow through with your announcement, and if you do… suck on it Razor!

What I don’t understand, and I’m not specifically talking to Jonvermeer here, is that there must be more than one individual who received some form of bet from CEH? And if so, why have they ALL until now upheld the nondisclosure policy for this bet, when the policy was drafted by a crook who indiscriminately stole a lot of money from many people? A man who set up the whole affair with intent to steal through deception?

Maybe   CEH`s " enforcers" have kicked the  bucket.

[esoito]

[mod] OK, JVM. That's enough of the breadcrumbs. It's now time to post it. A bit of cut'n'paste shouldn't be too hard to do. [/mod]

[weddings]

Let's see what this jvm guy has to say

[Turner]

its all a tad dramatic, don't you think

[Sputnik]

its all a tad dramatic, don't you think

I agree ...

[Atlantis]

If you all interested to see and learn,I will post the CWB bet for free to all who want to study about it.

Sure Jonvermeer, waiting to hear more. What was it you did not understand that you wrote asking for more info - but didn't receive clarification? Perhaps there are some on this forum that can work on and supply the missing pieces of the puzzle you require?

A.

[Atlantis]

Well it seems like Jonvermeer has decided against the reveal of the CWB after all of that!!

We've seen it all before, of course, and as a healthy sceptic I am naturally not surprised or disappointed for such to be the case this time either.

Hope you had some fun, Jonvermeer.

A.