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[Bayes]

If you conduct a test of 2000 bets, it is "controlled condition" and not cherry picking and when I and Ophis simulate over 10 millions spins from various forums ( a few provided by you too), that is not "controlled condition".

You don't seem to understand what "controlled conditions" means, so I'll have to spell it out.


You can't know in advance what spins are going to come next, I would have thought that would be obvious. You can't change the outcome after you've placed a bet. Again, pretty obvious.


Any simulation done by Ophis is obviously disqualified as "proof" because these conditions haven't been fulfilled, but they WERE fulfilled in the test I did with MBB (and JL).


Regarding the "testmystrategy" site, I haven't looked at it in detail but it seems that you can "play" using pretty unrealistic house limits.


Another aspect of "controlled conditions" means that you shouldn't be able to bet in a way which would be unrealistic in actual casino conditions. Anyone can win using a martingale if they have an infinite bank. But how many people would actually have the nerve to place huge bets or tolerate massive drawdowns? A system which wins on paper is useless if it's unplayable in practice.


And you haven't answered my second question: WHY are you selling the systems?


As for pockets, I haven't studied his system, but he's posted it in its entirety as far as I can tell, so what's the problem?

[Turner]

Bayes..why don't you take spins from a database of 10000 random.org or casino spins instead of an RNG

[Albalaha]

Regarding the "testmystrategy" site, I haven't looked at it in detail but it seems that you can "play" using pretty unrealistic house limits.

max bet =32, total bankroll=1000 chips, what is "unrealistic" in that?Further,  I did it in public domain and not in anyone's personal computer. I had no way to "know" prior to my bet as to what would be the result.

And you haven't answered my second question: WHY are you selling the systems?

            Why do people sell books? Three interests: 1. to earn money, 2. get recognition; and 3.to spread knowledge and awareness.
         Why did Thorpe sold his book after winning all his life from "card counting"? All three reasons. Clear?

[quote]As for pockets, I haven't studied his system, but he's posted it in its entirety as far as I can tell, so what's the problem?

               The problem is his claim, to win what could never been done so far, except by "cherry picking" in your vocabulary or "reverse engineering" as I say of favorable odds. If his claim is as true as he claims, as a mathematics and gambling aficionado, don't you feel like evaluating this specially when he is claiming so openly and loud?

[pb65]

In short, most people believe that he's bloviating.

Without a doubt.

[NathanDetroit]

Freeze  the cat and let`s get it over with.


What are the mods afraid of ?

[Edit:  What a daft question...!!]

[TwoCatSam]

  If you think it's futile, I will leave it here.

Pockets

I do not--in any way, shape or form--think it's futile.

Sam

[iggiv]

Albalaha has one argument: if someone tries to say the truth about his "Holy grails" he says "it's frustration of yours". Oh yeah. As i said. i just  wake up and think about his HG trying to bite my elbows. and the same i am doing when i am falling asleep. And the same while i am doing other things. Actually i will admit, i think about Al  even in my dreams. 24/7 Albalaha frustration syndrome. LOL

What a talent to argue and draw attention! I think if he comes to a real casino, maybe for a first time, he will manage to get all attention at himself only. Without a winning a single dollar. Even with losing it. All attention will be his. Everybody will be frustrated with his Holy Grail. Especially he himself. LOL

[iggiv]

the only problem is that he may try to sell his HGs again and someone will fall for it again as before.

[Xander]

Bayes..you can't you take spins from a database of 10000 random.org or casino spins instead of an RNG-Turner

@ Turner,

Why not?

@ Alababa,

Bayes and Pockets have you in checkmate.  Your bloviating isn't helping.


-Xander

[FLAT_IN_O]

ALI BOY,I HAVE ANIMATED YOU......

And you love it...mates now...LOL

bussy learning screen shot,then you can all see what a real holy gral is....that's why I haven't time arguing with you Ali.

[Turner]

@ Turner,

Why not?
-Xander

Xander....it's a typo now I read it.
I was saying..."can't you do it?"
I wasn't saying "you can't do it."

Its this feckin tiny android keyboard vs fat fingers

[Xander]

Turner,

Yes, I soemtmies expeirnece the FFS (FAT FINGER SYNDROM) as well.

[Turner]

Turner,

Yes, I soemtmies expeirnece the FFS (FAT FINGER SYNDROM) as well.

I edited it.

[Albalaha]

Bayes and Pockets have you in checkmate.  Your bloviating isn't helping.

           keep barking. 

[TwoCatSam]

This thread begs the question:  Do we still miss him?