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Re: Swiss Dreams
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2016, 07:48:01 am »
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  • Yes thanks Gizmotron. That is most helpful.
    As stated many times my sets consist of 9 numbers and they can be related to the most obscure of links, or no link- just randomly assembled. However I focus on Finales, Wheel sets, Streets and Table/Felt layout but can carry over to EC such as R/B, etc and even D/C's.
    For ease of live play management I usually play 4 sets, with overlays of WF technique and other affinities. However I could monitor 7 or more live. I simply use the Casino Roulette cards and code all my work manually at the table. I have never encountered any resistance and sometimes some helpful curiosity from younger Dealers.

    My original mentor as a professional Statistician preferred to have as many degrees of separation, or few links so as to avoid unwanted and unintended clustering , as he bet on destruction and collapse of clusters.  He loathed repeaters as he favoured the ideal of 'even distribution' without skew. His bet incorporated subtle adjustments however to adapt to differing repeat activity. Repeats tend to encourage SAME and delay of CHANGE. My view these days is to respect separation but to play for CHANGE and SAME, with virtual reverse bets when appropriate.

    My Loss Bet game will be shown soon, but has no relation to my private bet work.

    The principle of continuing refinement and improvement and extension of bet knowledge, selection, and application clearly has major significance; much more than I once realised. Ironically it is in studying the work of CEH and Razor that I have come to see this.

    I will incorporate your suggestion of data/telemetry records for every session this year, although at present I do a large amount of post match analysis.

    I have the feeling that this year will see huge leaps in efficiency and returns, as your suggestions, and the ongoing work and research on an elegant CWB, has increasing influence on me. Not least in this is the increasing awareness of so much opportunity within the field of roulette, and also my work in the financial markets puts matters into yet further context. I was going to say 'perspective' but why limit yourself, and like David Hockney has said, let's do away with it and be free.

    As I have hinted I also have a thread in mind that will show how 'virtual play monitoring' ( Number 9 will really hate this) can show current short-medium cycle set performance in a measure of 3 levels - hostile, neutral, favourable. By restricting live play to short bursts within favourable context bet efficiency is vastly increased, in my case say from +0.25 units per spin per set to sometimes astonishing bursts ( over 20 spins -50 spins) with returns in excess of +1.25 units per spin per set.  Of 4 sets monitored if 2-3 are favourable then returns can be very high and this BIG BET scenario recommends high value units in place. This is all flat staking.

    The mathematicians and naysayers who write on other forums always complain that change of direction of flow defeats any attempt to trap change or same. However the microscale cluster analysis deals with this and as earlier shown has peak efficiency and a cut off for when things don't go to plan, and yes for this there is also a recovery strategy/ phase. However on the smaller-medium size cycles the propensity to go with change, or with friction to block and hence go same, tends to be more stable over a 30-100 spin phase or longer and there is consistency in performance, not fickle uncertain and unpredictable character. So for a session duration this is ideal. You soon know whether to go live or not. Your switch to live play is not going to send signals like startled goldfish to all the sets. They seem to share whatever the mood/ flavour or factor as outlined as hostile/ neutral or favourable throughout the sets.

    I am very grateful for some of the contacts enabled through this Swiss Dreams thread.



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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #76 on: January 03, 2016, 11:40:36 am »
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  • ...i think if you want to use cluster analysis you need to back track the results. Thus, you need to track what was needed in order to come to that results..... and then see whether the pre-cluster shows you that....




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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #77 on: January 03, 2016, 02:13:31 pm »
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  • I will incorporate your suggestion of data/telemetry records for every session this year, although at present I do a large amount of post match analysis.

    I'm only keeping track of the results of each bet per spin, not the amount of numbers bet on or the amount per number bet at the time for those spins.

    One way to flat bet a two level method is to have two flat betting amounts, one for restrained bets and another for attacking opportunities. The collision of a dozen with a column numbers an amount of 16 to bet on. The collision of any two table layout dozens or columns with an one table layout EC numbers an amount of 12 to bet on. My practice software only uses table layout groupings where I sometimes just place bets on the outside without the use of a combo bet. A case for a huge streak of a sleeping dozen or column would be an example of that. My goal in practice is to get the three net wins and stop that session. That means I'm using a small wave form from small or short term opportunities style of practicing only. I'm doing this with full knowledge that big wild opportunities go ignored altogether. This is so I can gain experience faster in my knowledge and experience of short termed opportunities.

    Later I will combine my versions of short term concepts to my continuous duration playing methods. I suspect that I will use a three level betting method where table minimum EC bets will be used, while bad times occur,  against 1 and 2 units per number strait up bets for full groups, combo groups, and two-level non-combo groupings, while opportunities abound.

    Keeping track of the results in my live play and practice charts is my way of keeping track of the effectiveness trend. It also allows me to evaluate how an entire trip to a casino went for a day. I can see clearly if I'm getting off of the bad streaks early enough. It also allows me to see the global effect of a session or even a full day's trip to a casino. The telemetry is a perfect record for tax purposes too.

    That gambler that ever said not to count your money while you are sitting at the table must have been a casino owner or an addicted gambler. It's a great line for a song but very unwise for a way to play.

    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #78 on: January 03, 2016, 02:44:26 pm »
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  • ...i think if you want to use cluster analysis you need to back track the results. Thus, you need to track what was needed in order to come to that results..... and then see whether the pre-cluster shows you that....
    Carlitos  8)

    I agree, and in the past years I wanted to know how well my bet selections were doing. But with all the experience I have for the last decade, the need for back tracking bet selection choices is nearly worthless to me. You see, the only bet selection choice that matters is the next choice made. Once that passes, it is impossible to go back and make that choice again. A win or a loss tells me what is happening in the current state, it tells me the state, and it tells me the effectiveness too. I already use a basic rule, follow the best looking trend. I know that that is what I was doing, so being able to see it again for later is just a waste of time at the table while charting, making choices, and getting bets down in time.

    However, saying that, keeping track of bet choices and amounts is an excellent learning tool while trying to gain experience and confidence. It worked for me in years past. It would be great for discussion too. But I practice in a real world scenario, where time is also a practicing factor. I can turn on an automatic spin timer while practicing for playing airball and rapid roulette. It forces me to make quick decisions that will have to be lived with. If you are not a programmer, it really helps to become one. Roulette is why I became a programmer in the first place.

    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #79 on: January 03, 2016, 07:41:53 pm »
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  • My current view, based on my experience, is that a powerful winning bet used at the right time and in suitable conditions, should be played with high value units in as short a session as possible so that a suitable pre-planned goal can result, then step outside, as ND has so wisely advised.

    I agree.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #80 on: January 03, 2016, 07:55:40 pm »
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    My current view, based on my experience, is that a powerful winning bet used at the right time and in suitable conditions, should be played with high value units in as short a session as possible so that a suitable pre-planned goal can result, then step outside, as ND has so wisely advised. 

    ...i would also agree with that.....



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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #81 on: January 03, 2016, 10:13:47 pm »
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  • Well thank y'all.

    Sometimes it surprises me how much I write. Probably too much as most readers here would say. However remember I did confess a long time ago I use this Forum on lots of levels, and it is a sort of practice, experiment, laboratory for me. Am not joking when I talk about the Greek Muse. Sometimes she is with us, sometimes not. Recall I also said the test of being able to understand and master a principle is to be able to explain it to another, or write about it clearly. Here we have the added complication of trying to be clear and yet be veiled at the same time- possibly a fool's errand. Some will think that.

    Digging down into this, the intent to try to help those who 'prove themselves worthy' is really problematic. What am I trying to do and achieve here?

    I want to demonstrate at an ideas level that it is possible to beat roulette. This in itself is an extraordinary challenge, not only to do, but to prove that you know how to without providing the exact formula.

    When I correspond in harmony with a group of individuals over several years and there is polite exchange and mutual respect throughout, that to me is a wonderful achievement considering in most cases I do not personally know you. Yet despite the masks of the internet protocols we can make great progress. I can tell you one of the most sincere and respected friends I have with whom I share everything, is a friend I met through the internet, and actually through a roulette forum, who lives on another continent, and yet who I trust totally and vice versa, and with whom trusted exchanges continue to take place often daily. That demonstrates to me one of the principles I bang on about a lot.  Truth is there, in fact is here, and you can find it if you look, but first you must look into your own heart and make efforts to mature and weed out nonsense.

    So what I am saying is that I cannot reveal to you all of what I know, and a healthy scepticism is always essential for everyone at all times, because we can all fall short sometimes,  but within reason you can carry through my thoughts and see where it goes. Hopefully it will make a positive difference to your roulette play, and perhaps improve your income.

    As we agreed, only a fool would reveal a certain and sure private bet here. The consequences of such would be counter productive for all. Sometimes though partial winning bets ( win more than lose) can be shown and I hope the core WF, some of my own private bet, and the forthcoming Loss Bet may assist those who truly seek.

    Some of the earlier responses by some Forum members here to some commercial ideas I was pitching were totally disappointing and my own naivety was shown up. The self righteous protectors of the 'purity' of the Forum floor showed up- a sort of Forum Police. Of course at all other times they contribute nothing and are mere passives. Sometimes I deliberately push at the boundaries and my mention of a sum deposit was (rightly) ridiculed. However my intention was actually simple and good hearted with three parties communicating and as far as I am aware no-one took the big leap to join the Foundation of which I am a lifetime member. That was not a problem as it was never intended for roulette players!!!

    Yet look at the quality of some of our colleagues here on this roulette forum and their brilliance, and curiosity to explore and improve and succeed.

    The way I accumulate knowledge and apply it is via a sort of snowball mentality, and my live play can be, unless well practiced, a bit lumpy and  inconsistent. Yet with practice what a huge difference. Last night I played 42 spins at Dublin and by taking on board some of the CWB research findings, and overlaying this in an organised and prioritised way with existing knowledge, the result was fundamentally very encouraging.

    So how can I share eventually what is worthwhile to share?

    A few months ago I received a demand from a regular writer on another Forum who must visit here as one of the many shadows. He is Greek. He demanded I present him with a full explanation and methodology for my private bet. He also produced a pack of third party lies that I had 'stolen' this material from another complainant. What absolute rubbish and his writing successfully conveyed his mental state. Yet he writes today with confidence and charm to others who might not see behind the egotistic mask.

    So material is not provided to a know-it-all ( he is of course in truth bankrupt in real knowledge and understanding) like him, or others like him.

    My suggestion is this. I have a 3-5 year plan for investment and realisation of financial and economic goals. So much has already happened over the past 12 months, I see 2016 as a fantastic year for growth.

    The entire foundation of my economic work is increased prosperity and abundance, yet of course that requires education and preparation to those concerned( including me) well in advance. You would be a fool to distribute free money.

    I plan to write to a small handful of individuals with whom I have corresponded over the past 3-5 years, and when the work is completed sufficiently on my bets to a sufficient standard of accuracy and simplicity, I will offer them free my knowledge and support. This may take a while yet, but what is the point of knowledge if it cannot be shared at some time. However those individuals will be very carefully selected and the serious conditions and undertaking will be not to re-publish or sell on, but apply, and make a difference.

    Recall I have attempted to assist some with my private work already, but I think I can say they were not ready, and my work was probably far too complicated, so this has been a lesson. As always, timing is everything.

    So in the meantime the CWB research and study continues - this usually involves reading and re-reading several volumes of data, but the big difference is when you try to apply, test, test, test, and question, and run through live play for hours on end, holding in mind all the key sayings and statements that should be fully understood. Examine the words and meaning very very carefully. I actually believe the intention of CEH et al, and especially Razor, was to communicate sufficient information to enable access to solutions, but heavily veiled for all the reasons we have discussed. Further, the motives of individuals are often complex and contradictory.

    Happy New Year everybody.

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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #82 on: January 09, 2016, 03:01:58 am »
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  • Currently work is underway on CWB research and testing.

    This phase may well continue through most of 2016. However when one or more suitable solutions are found, I will notify progress.


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    Re: Swiss Dreams
    « Reply #83 on: March 24, 2016, 05:46:56 pm »
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  • My images of travelling on the Swiss railway system are more valid than ever, and I think it pays to go back to the roots of all that was being written and stated from the beginning and set out a full record of all that was published. I have been fortunate to have access to most of that now and it is in the distilling of that material that progress can be made. I think I read somewhere there were 82 clues given, or close to that.