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Re: MB 16
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2016, 01:09:20 am »
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  • Wow, what a sequence of spins. In the last 17 spins the "nines" hit ten times. That's the grouping of three numbers, 9 , 19 , and 29. I always watch for that kind of an Elegant Pattern dominance. You could have hit on the last seven to hit from that group after seeing it start with three close together hits starting at 17 spins to go. That would be 7 hits out of 13 spins left to go only betting on the three numbers for each spin. A soft parlay would have you at the table maximum for strait up bets in just a few wins.

    Example: "Final bets,

    A final call bet is a wager on the numbers (0-36) ending in the number called. For instance, final 1 is a wager on 1, 11, 21, 31, which makes it a four chip wager. Final zero is a wager on 0, 10, 20, 30, and thus also a four chip wager. Final 7 is just a three chip wager since it covers only 7, 17, and 27."
    "...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 


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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #76 on: July 15, 2016, 03:52:02 am »
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  • Yes thanks for the comments and thoughts.

    Today was a much different set of spin outcomes and as always there were some traps within for this MB16 bet.

    11
    ---
    8
    2
    ----
    1
    28
    20
    ----
    35
    ---
    31
    ----
    1
    33
    34
    ----
    0
    26
    17
    ---
    30
    2
    ----
    5
    ----
    6
    ---
    2
    ---- then....

    28
    9
    23
    26
    29
    9
    25
    4
    33
    25
    26
    34
    ----

    23
    25
    8
    26
    29
    25
    32
    ----
    5
    ---
    13
    5
    ----
    23
    21
    1
    22
    30
    16
    ---
    14
    ---
    18
    19
    ---

    20
    ---
    29
    32
    ----
    12
    ---
    3
    ---  pause at high

    19
    ---
    7
    5
    ---
    3
    ---
    22
    6
    ---
    29
    36
    9
    28
    21
    17
    ----
    9
    36
    17
    ---
    12
    ---
    32
    ----
    1
    23
    12
    ---
    16
    ---
    34
    ---
    25
    28
    1
    21
    10
    13
    32
    ----
    15
    ---
    24
    20
    ---
    17
    ---
    35
    ---  and quit at ath

    15

    ------ end of session  RB + 152,400 units new ATH


    Outcome sequence

    1
    2
    3
    1
    1
    3
    3
    2
    1
    1
    1
    12
    7
    1  ** nasty sequence
    2
    6
    1
    2
    1
    2
    1
    1
    1
    2
    1
    2
    6
    3
    1
    1
    3
    1
    1
    7
    1
    2
    1
    1
    1
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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #77 on: July 15, 2016, 06:03:13 am »
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  • There are interesting, valid and useful parallels between financial market trading and professional roulette play. I hope you realize by the time you adapt and apply this MB 16 bet with appropriate risk bank and attitude, you regard yourself as 'professional'.

    Silly comments and negative attitudes from others in the past have joked or have been uncomfortable with a an attitude and self description as having a 'professional' attitude to roulette.

    Once you start, even if losing, which is most likely at the start, you are professional because you consider the income earned as required remuneration for the time and energy you have invested probably for years past.

    I have invested 25+ years into roulette, hundreds of thousands of hours and several hundred thousand dollars in time and capital.

    About time to recover a consistent return on capital invested n'est-ce pas?

    I hope you realize that under a very thin veil of disguise or camouflage that this MB16 is a professional bet. It becomes professional level when you overlay professional MM, RB and overlay bets and strategies.

    Here is the latest total for Palladio on the RB...  +225,900 units.

    I have shared with you the daily struggles and disasters as part of the picture. The previous all time high (ATH) at +137,000 units really seemed a massive level of resistance. Time and time again I would approach and then self sabotage or encounter an awful unforeseen sequence of spin outcomes with bizarre skews. Of course these challenges are really just different opportunities. It is all a  matter of attitude and timing.

    As with the financial markets previous highs are for good reasons, resistant points where the forces of upside and correction reach equilibrium. The level cannot be breached until something changes. What can we change ?  The answer is knowledge and attitude.

    The massive leap in bank level has been achieved after dealing with wave after wave of resistance challenges. These might have sunk us, but instead provided opportunity for review and improvement.

    Key to success was to respect the balance and anchor qualities of the corner bets, fixed and stable, in and out of phase. As Gizmo has often suggested play aggressively when in phase and restrict reduce, pause , stop when out of phase.

    The MB 16 is easy to read and that is why I have so frequently shared and published outcome cycles, and thus how to adapt. I have included my many silly errors and mistakes, sometimes disastrous, in order to learn.

    Overlay that has been so very useful has been the R/B colour cycles/ streaks/ patterns and access to the middle column. The MB16 is skewed to favour the middle column.

    Do not write to me to ask me to explain or go into further detail ( as some have done believe it or not) . It has all been stated in this thread.

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    R.


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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #78 on: July 15, 2016, 06:39:10 am »
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  • Wow, I might have to but that Blakey cat's book, hey hey.

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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #79 on: July 15, 2016, 08:36:20 am »
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  • I believe the Martin Blakey book was loaded into the library here at BetSelection by Sqzbox I think. Am always wary of copyright so please check. If you have a problem simply PM me. The work I am doing is rather different to how Martin approached it. My approach is simpler.
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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #80 on: July 15, 2016, 10:05:43 am »
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  • Latest from Palladio is to close the evening session at +242,500 units. New all time high.

    I do emphasise I am heavily loading middle column and R/B patterns/ trends/ dominance over the MB 16 patterns and waiting for a green light then loading up.

    This has various implications but essentially is quite simple pattern application play and working with trends not against them- you have seen from my mistakes the danger in not working with the flow.

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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #81 on: July 17, 2016, 12:44:05 am »
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  • We reached +252,000 units at peak and that is the new resistance level.

    Bounced back down to +149,000 units before recovering partially and currently at +203,000 units. This was due to a corrective phase, poor choices, some bad luck ( yes there is a place for luck in roulette) ** and excessive experimentation. So always a challenge and never drop your guard with Madame Roulette.

    Without appropriate humility you may be vulnerable to pridefall - a failing known to James Bond types.

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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #82 on: July 18, 2016, 08:20:00 am »
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  • Well we reached 255,000 after yet another correction and trying in the one session ( too much) to increase rate of earning too fast a few errors were made and then a tough corrective phase. Instead of sensibly stopping I went on down step by step over several days to about 89,000 before re-grouping.

    This has been a rapid and useful course in MM but i do emphasise it is artificial because profit would have been taken off the table in real play, and also some of the zero covering would have been very much more effective.

    After that recent setback we are now upward trending and at +209,350 units.

    I notice a couple of my high flying fellow players have recently crashed in flames so  it is a dangerous business this ace roulette game.  This past week has seen some wonderful testing, some unplayable passages, and some that are dream runs. Key evidently is to wait for the opportunities and seize them, and do not struggle on against the tide when it can be so adverse.

    This is such simple fundamental advice but the month of play on this table has been extremely valuable for experience.

    Here is this evening's session which enabled growth from 153,000 to 209,000.

    8
    25
    4
    23
    35
    ---- 5
    3
    ---- 1
    7
    23
    12
    ---- 3
    15
    ---- 1
    27
    20
    ---- 2
    32
    ---- 1
    35
    ---- 1
    34
    ---- 1
    27
    1
    6
    ---- 3
    29
    23
    28
    25
    32
    ---- 5
    33
    6
    ---- 2
    5
    ---- 1
    16
    ---- 1
    21
    15        B
    ---- 2
    32        R
    ---- 1
    20        B
    ---- 1
    6          B
    ---- 1
    3          R
    ---- 1
    16        R
    ---- 1
    18
    14
    ---- 2 
    16        R
    ---- 1
    17        B
    ---- 1
    22
    20
    ---- 2
    0
    35
    ---- 2
    31
    ---- 1
    6
    ---- 1
    2
    ---- 1
    14
    ---- 1
    4
    16
    ---- 2
    25
    18
    20 
    ---- 3
    35
    ---- 1
    35
    ---- 1
    28
    1
    16
    ---- 3
    13
    20
    ---- 2
    33
    18
    32
    ---- 3
    31
    ---- 1
    13
    31
    ---- 2
    1
    28
    8
    11
    ---- 4
    4
    14
    ---- 2    and take profit

    Alternating or Dominance streaks were used from R/B  and H/L  over the base MB 16 at key times when flows were stable.

    Chaotic phases were avoided by just observing after a small correction.

    Overall within one day over a 4 hour 2-3 session phase RB developed from less then 90,000 up to a peak at 220,000 with final + 209,350 units.

    Lessons are simple and clear. Practice, practice, practice. Play only in the appropriate zone of confidence - if discomfort - stop.

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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #83 on: July 19, 2016, 05:49:53 am »
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  • The RB now stands at + 225,300 units and found it hard to get above 234,000 with the current session flow.

    It is imperative to quit a session where there is no headway.

    Wait for the conditions and trends/ patterns that you know can be used by your bet  with flourish because you understand through practice your bet characteristics. I have found R/B and H/L to be really helpful as well as dozens and columns particularly middle column for the corner bets.

    It is like an image that can come into focus occasionally as opposed to being out of focus, out of phase.

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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #84 on: July 19, 2016, 06:26:16 am »
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  • As a contrast here is a live casino session today.

    24
    32
    ---- 2           
    34
    ---- 1
    34
    ---- 1
    27
    25
    7
    30
    6
    ---- 5
    33
    18
    17
    ---- 3
    23
    17
    ---- 2
    5
    ---- 1
    29
    2
    ---- 2
    29
    9
    35
    ---- 3
    0
    10
    32
    ---- 3
    8
    11
    ---- 2
    0
    29
    36
    9
    33
    16
    ---- 6
    15
    ---- 1
    3
    ---- 1
    4
    28
    36
    35
    ---- 4
    1
    00
    32
    ---- 3
    17
    ---- 1
    6
    ---- 1
    9
    27
    00
    3
    ---- 4
    16
    ---- 1
    5
    ---- 1
    18
    17
    ---- 2
    27
    10
    11
    ---- 3
    36
    19
    ---- 2
    34
    ---- 1
    22
    30
    36
    7
    36
    30
    9
    6
    ---- 8
    15
    ---- 1
    35
    ---- 1
    30
    9
    36
    27
    21
    33
    8
    6
    ---- 8
    31
    ---- 1


    Outcomes
    2
    1
    1
    5
    3
    2
    1
    2
    3
    3
    2
    6
    1
    1
    4
    3
    1
    1
    4
    1
    1
    2
    3
    2
    1
    8
    1
    1
    8
    1
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    recall the summary

    2
    3
    5
    8
    and phase 2 all x5
    2
    3
    5
    8


    1    +10
    2    +7
    3    +5
    4    +0  SL -72 if no further play

    5    -22
    6    -37
    7    -47
    8    -72

    SL  -432  units  if no further beyond phase 2.


    This session +61 base units having peaked at +95 units

    30 outcomes  with 26 outcomes within 30, ie 87%

    If you are going to play live, be fully prepared if you choose to use this as your anchor bet. Respect it.


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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #85 on: July 20, 2016, 10:29:15 pm »
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  • Here is an interesting long sequence of outcomes from the RB context.

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    2
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    3
    1
    2
    2
    3
    3
    1
    1
    2
    1
    2
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    2
    1
    1  a great run to date

    4
    4
    2
    1
    5
    3  warning signs ahead

    4
    2
    3
    2
    1
    2
    2
    1
    2
    1
    2
    4
    1
    3
    7
    1
    1
    1
    2  it appears that was not too bad ....

    5
    5
    7  triple whammy

    1
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    1
    3
    2
    4
    2
    2
    1
    2
    5
    1
    3
    1
    2
    1
    2
    4
    1
    4
    3
    5
    3
    1
    10  here we go
    5
    1
    1
    5
    1
    2
    1
    3
    3
    2
    2
    1
    5
    1
    3
    3
    3
    2
    2
    1
    -----
    2
    1
    2
    3
    1
    2
    1
    3
    ----






    I will analyse this but the triple whammy  (warning here) was a catastrophic progression failure.

    Nevertheless I suspect that it might be a good idea to extend the primary progression ....

    2
    3
    5
    8
    13

    We can explore and see if this offers better protection, and a strike rate in excess of 90%.

    Recall the purpose of this thread is to explore and test, experiment and comment.

    Flat staking is always the best policy.

    The MB 16 is a useful platform bet and this thread is exploring the various ways to play it but emphasising the risks and dangers of any progression. That is why MM is always critical, and when combined with superior bet selection that is a winning combination although elusive.

    Distribution of outcomes from RB session

       1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8    9    10

      35   29   18    7     8     0     2      0    0     1


    1-4 ratio    89% 

    1-5 ratio    98%


    A new approach could be to move.....

    phase 1

    2       +10     based on corner bets   ( -2 x 4)  + (2 x 9)  =  -8 +18   = +10
    3       +7
    5       +5
    8       +0
    13     -10   all phase 1

    loss if fail after 5th attempt -127 units  and regard as SL,  continue if desired and await win as a trigger to re-commence series

    phase 2

    multiply all x 12 so staking will be  3 x 2,3,5,8  units straight up on every number in the corner

    2     -127  - ( 24  x 4)  +   ( 6 x 36 x 1)   =  -127 - 96  +  216   =  -223 + 216  =  -7 units
    3     -223  - ( 36  x 4)  +   ( 9 x 36 X 1)   =  -367 + 324            =  -43 units   and so on
    5
    8

    As you see this all becomes very extreme and expensive and a smarter approach will be to remain within phase 1 and attack debt reduction in simple steps awaiting a streak of 1 and 2 outcomes to enable total clearance of the debt, possibly by going x 2  so as to place 1 chip on every one of the four corner numbers.  This is less extreme than the phase 2 example above, and we stay only with 1 and 2 outcomes. If worse, stop and write off the loss and set aside to be cleared in a future session ex profit.

    Over the next month we will look at the Martin Blakey recommended method to square off this debt.


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    Re: MB 16
    « Reply #86 on: July 24, 2016, 01:49:04 am »
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  • Well the RB reached +255,00 and then imploded - I was not able to withdraw the credit in cash. Also the earlier format of the RB table was seriously skewed against zero cover or split/ corner/ multiple bets so covering progressions was undermined. Also I made errors - for that is what this thread is all about - experiment and testing, and some really tough passages were encountered. This is always the concern with any sort of progression. However that we built the RB from a start of 1000 units is still a mighty achievement and several others did well. So congratulations to them , to Maestro, Norm, Plolp and the French Canadians( forgive me if I have left some out).

    So it gave pause for thought and I also wrote to SH and thanked him for the project and had some contact again on RouletteForum.cc

    The whole thing is now re-booted and a better less skewed staking is available.

    [b]Palladio[/b] has now reincarnated as retired film-maker Kubrick and will again seek to test and experiment.

    A new thread will follow his adventures.