EZ Baccarat co-creator attributes success to Indian tribes' embrace of game.

     In my opinion there is indeed a little merit to the above theory. However, several other factors may have also contributed:
The fact EZ Bac could be dealt faster(Higher casino profits), 5% commish didn't have to be counted out every  single  hand, multiple players could more easily be stacked (stand) behind the seated players, multiple wagering spots, smart shoes didn't require as much effort/training for dealers,...etc.

See link below.




https://cdcgaming.com/ez-baccarat-co-creator-attributes-success-to-tribes-embrace-of-game/

Here is a picture of an EZ Bac table with no commission.  Note the 3 betting spots per seat.  2 are for back bettors standing or sitting behind the main seated player. 

Most of the casinos in the central and upper Midwest have these with limits anywhere from $1,000 to $10,000 max per hand.  Also if the seated player allows it, another can cap their wagers if no spot is available. 

Quote from: alrelax on October 20, 2024, 04:17:18 AMHere is a picture of an EZ Bac table with no commission.  Note the 3 betting spots per seat.  2 are for back bettors standing or sitting behind the main seated player. 

Most of the casinos in the central and upper Midwest have these with limits anywhere from $1,000 to $10,000 max per hand.  Also if the seated player allows it, another can cap their wagers if no spot is available. 

That's interesting.
In some weekends I've seen people waiting hours to get an open seat at EZ tables, with this simple  innovation the number of players allowed to wager will be tripled up.

Yet high end premises still do not offer EZ tables (I suspect, lol, for HE issues...)

- 1.06% is slight better than 1.01% (Banker bets)
- 1.46% is way better than 1.01% (Banker bets where a winning 6 is payed half vs EZ baccarat)
- 14% and over on Tiger, Lucky Six and Pairs side bets is a lot better than 7% and 10% on Dragon F-7 and Panda bets.

What do you think about that?

as.

In the Midwest USA there are plenty of casinos offering non commission EZ Bac or Five Treasures bac with no commission max limits of $5,000 and $10,000 per hand.  There is one upper Midwest casino with off the street, $25/50/100 min to maximum $1000,000 limit.  Yes, One Hundred Thousand.

Side bets normally any where from $5.00 min to $200.00 maximum.  Below is a picture of a $40,000.00 Blazing 777s side bet table shot. 

I am in the middle of writing a detailed post which will include the 4 types of bac games going today that dominate the field with NO COMMISSION.

B/P/T and Dragon
B/P/T, Dragon and Fortune 7
B/P/T and the Five Treasures layout
B/P/T and the Bad Beat layout

Below picture is a non commission Bad Beat bac table with a $5,000.00 max per hand limit.  It is also a MIDI/Macau style players peel the cards.  Note what I did to the 8 card peeling it back.  $20.00 three card 8/9 wager, 200:1, dealer is cutting out my win as I snapped the picture.


(Attaching picture, please check back, problems to resize I think?)

Good points AsymBacGuy.

Asym up above:

"...Yet high end premises still do not offer EZ tables (I suspect, lol, for HE issues...)

- 1.06% is slight better than 1.01% (Banker bets)
- 1.46% is way better than 1.01% (Banker bets where a winning 6 is payed half vs EZ baccarat)
- 14% and over on Tiger, Lucky Six and Pairs side bets is a lot better than 7% and 10% on Dragon F-7 and Panda bets.

What do you think about that?..."

I do think many casinos (especially HighLimit Rooms) choose not to do the EZ Bac for the reasons you mention(i.e., Lower H.E.).Plus they would also have the addendum cost for the royalty fees to the EZ Bac Trademark owners.

Maybe the casino views the change to EZ Bac tables as unwarranted (IOW why change a business model that is making money), as the Hold is often 11-18% for Bac,...etc.
Plus, Im guessing some players may prefer and like the Midi tables for a slower more dramatic type experience. Maybe other reasons Im not considering.

*As you probably know in the the Midwest, USA most casinos don't really have high-limit rooms. (Midwest Im calling states like Mo, OK, Ks, Ar,Louisiana,..etc). They "might" have a different section or corner of the floor with some 10K table max tables. A few in Mississippi(Tunica and Biloxi), which are more Southern vs Midwest, have higher limit tables and Hi-Limit rooms. Many of the casinos in Colorado have 10K Tmax tables.

So many of my most frequented casinos do not have Tmax tables any where near what u would see in Lvegas or Indiana (50K, 100K,..etc), and most certainly not like you see at Monte Carlo in Monaco or Macau, ...etc.


Continued Success,

Alrelax in Post#3 above:

"...Side bets normally any where from $5.00 min to $200.00 maximum.  Below is a picture of a $40,000.00 Blazing 777s side bet table shot."

    Awesome, was that yours?

"...I am in the middle of writing a detailed post which will include the 4 types of bac games going today that dominate the field with NO COMMISSION...."
B/P/T and Dragon
B/P/T, Dragon and Fortune 7
B/P/T and the Five Treasures layout
B/P/T and the Bad Beat layout,..."

   
Thx alrelax /look forward to seeing it.


*I mostly see the Ez Bac version with Panda/Fortune7(3c7 Bank). Though just recently Im starting to see more of the (Five Treasures and the Golden Frog layouts), especially in Colorado,USA..

**Also, there is  recently a new one that I will post a link to within a couple days(it's a bonus bettors dream).


Continued Success,

Kungfubac,  As you wrote, "Plus, Im guessing some players may prefer and like the Midi tables for a slower more dramatic type experience. Maybe other reasons Im not considering."

The central and upper Midwest area has countless casinos that do have midi bac and the shoes take the extra amount of time, the same as Vegas or AC, etc. Usually if a casino has 6 tables of bac, probably 3 are mini and 3 would be midi style.  If 2 were open, they would have 1 mini and 1 midi.

While there is not the traditional high limit rooms, as you stated the bac is usually a section of the main floor or situated at the end or off to the side of the main floor pits. 

Personally, years ago I would never have never played outside of the Vegas, AC or Connecticut markets, with their traditional high limit rooms, etc.  But into the 2000's I play to play and win money.  I don't care about the atmosphere, glitz, glam and a free line up of fresh fruit-drinks-seafood snacks and other foods for the high limit players found in the traditional high limit rooms. 

If I am not within the same days drive from the casino I go to, I am fine staying at a local motel (paying out of pocket) and eating at non casino restaurants 100%.  Although most places I play, $30-$50 meal comps are almost never a problem.  However, I just don't really enjoy the same places with the same menus.  Coupled with the aura of being in the casino versus outside of it, 'in the free world'. 

Per my post in #6 above:

"...**Also, there is  recently a new one that I will post a link to within a couple days(it's a bonus bettors dream).  ..."


In the link down below the article addresses the new EZ Bac table layout that I referenced above.

    Galaxy is also enhancing the venerable EZ Baccarat game, which hadn't changed since its introduction 18 years ago. Reback said operators may choose to add the Golden Talons and Divine 9 side bets to complement the Dragon 7 and Panda 8 of the original game, with no increase in the operator fee. Golden Talons pays 10-1 for either a Player or Banker 3-card 9 and 75-1 when each has a 3-card 9. Golden Talons pays off with a natural win/tie or non-natural win by a specified number of points. The paybacks follow a posted paytable.

     Reback said the additional bets will not impact on the speed of the game, a key part of its attraction for operators and players. "These two side bets are extremely easy to resolve, as easy as Dragon 7 and Panda 8." He added that several operators have asked for additional EZ Baccarat side bets. In addition, EZ Baccarat is being made available online through Evolution AB, which has agreed to purchase Galaxy Gaming for about $85 million.


G2E: Galaxy Gaming unveils new table-game system, EZ Baccarat additions

alelax above:

"...If I am not within the same days drive from the casino I go to, I am fine staying at a local motel (paying out of pocket) and eating at non casino restaurants 100%.  Although most places I play, $30-$50 meal comps are almost never a problem.  However, I just don't really enjoy the same places with the same menus.  Coupled with the aura of being in the casino versus outside of it, 'in the free world'. ..."

    I agree 100% about getting out of the casino for fresh air/ to let my brain calm down from all the bells/sirens from the slots.
I usually play during the day /during week at most of my casino markets. However, one market I go to on weekends or maybe (thurs-fri-sat) has five casinos and typically I meet a group there every couple weeks. I often get a Hampton Inn ($90--105), especially if my wife travels with me, that is about 15mins from each casino. I then book/give my free rooms at two of the cas to group members that have driven in from out of state. WinWin for everyone and I can play at any of them for as much or little as I desire(& eat wherever I want).

As far as the "Golden Talons pays 10-1 for either a Player or Banker 3-card 9 and 75-1 when each has a 3-card 9."

That is already included in the Five Treasures bac game with their "Heavenly 9" side bet, which is directly opposite the Blazing 7s, 50:1 and 200:1 payouts.

Quotealelax above:

"...If I am not within the same days drive from the casino I go to, I am fine staying at a local motel (paying out of pocket) and eating at non casino restaurants 100%.  Although most places I play, $30-$50 meal comps are almost never a problem.  However, I just don't really enjoy the same places with the same menus.  Coupled with the aura of being in the casino versus outside of it, 'in the free world'. ..."

    I agree 100% about getting out of the casino for fresh air/ to let my brain calm down from all the bells/sirens from the slots.
I usually play during the day /during week at most of my casino markets. However, one market I go to on weekends or maybe (thurs-fri-sat) has five casinos and typically I meet a group there every couple weeks. I often get a Hampton Inn ($90--105), especially if my wife travels with me, that is about 15mins from each casino. I then book/give my free rooms at two of the cas to group members that have driven in from out of state. WinWin for everyone and I can play at any of them for as much or little as I desire(& eat wherever I want).

A lot of people will not agree or understand, but a good hit of thousands of dollars quickly or even if fought for, with a recovery of the drawdown and then a subsequent good hit, the brain is not in full untouched consciousness and very very physiologically aroused and with increased stimulated emotions that will probably affect your wagering decisions. 

Although I am in no way a psychiatrist or any kind of neurologist, I know how the brain functions and how  truly unaffected total consciousness without stimuli is an advantage, we all get sucked in and fall prey. 

And, taking the above into consideration, the following I attempt to adhere to.

Yes, I rather be in an off property motel/hotel and eat elsewhere by far.  On property, no matter if I am pushing even or winning, I am still thinking of those tables out on the floor within a few minutes walk.  Uncomfortable.  Meanwhile, if off property there is a whole other sense of comfortableness I encounter. 

Local restaurants, different foods and varied atmospheres I rather surround myself with rather than on property. 

Below picture is a non commission Bad Beat bac table with a $5,000.00 max per hand limit.  It is also a MIDI/Macau style players peel the cards.  Note what I did to the 8 card peeling it back.  $20.00 three card 8/9 wager, 200:1, dealer is cutting out my win as I snapped the picture.

I could see the EzBac owners pitching this to the current casino customer as well as to potentially new cas:

"...Galaxy is also enhancing the venerable EZ Baccarat game, which hadn't changed since its introduction 18 years ago. Reback said operators may choose to add the Golden Talons and Divine 9 side bets to complement the Dragon 7 and Panda 8 of the original game, with no increase in the operator fee..."

    I would think that most cas would bite on the idea of getting an additional two bonus bets on the layout (without paying additional licensing rights above the current rate),...etc.

Reback also added: ..."Reback said the additional bets will not impact on the speed of the game, a key part of its attraction for operators and players. "These two side bets are extremely easy to resolve, as easy as Dragon 7 and Panda 8." He added that several operators have asked for additional EZ Baccarat side bets..."

    Im most certainly sure the casinos are asking for more bonus side bets. However, it is my opinion the casinos' Hold may not increase as a direct function of (more bonus bets = more Hold) or at least the increase won't be in proportion.
Players will likely still buyin for their typical amount(say $1000) and if they do indeed feel enticed to wager the addendum bonus wagers they will still only bust the same "typical buyin" amount($1000). Most likely busting buyin a little sooner,...etc.

Just a quick thought as I seldom wager any of the bonus bets.