I could possibly consider playing online "Live" dealer Bac (Where we can view dealer cutting/dealing live.
Has anybody played Bac in this manner??? Thoughts/ Opinions ?? Thx in advance.


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Be careful.  There are ways the casino can track you and have it appear they are not.  I have some minor detailed info on this.  Not handy right now, but I will dig out the email I received from an out of country, live online casino personnel, whom gave me some detailed operating tricks they use/used, etc.  I will find it and post what I was told.

alrelax:
"...Be careful.  There are ways the casino can track you and have it appear they are not.  I have some minor detailed info on this.  Not handy right now, but I will dig out the email I received from an out of country, live online casino personnel, whom gave me some detailed operating tricks they use/used, etc.  I will find it and post what I was told..."


Thx as I would like to hear these operating tricks.

I like the idea of Stadium Bac setups like in Vegas,USA or Bethlehem, PA,USA where one can set at a console and observe 4 games at once being dealt with live dealers visible at the tables in front of you. Observing the cut/ see each card and draw. It doesn't seem like they could utilize any tricks. Possible, I guess.

My state of main residence doesn't permit any online gaming(of any kind). However, two nearby adjoining states allow it. Plus my state is changing some of their gambling laws(or likely will in the near future).

*Regarding the two nearby adjoining states. I find it interesting that as I drive and approach the state borders, I start receiving popup texts from Caesars et al sports books offer sports betting there.


Continued Success,

Here is part of the email I received prior.

"........there are numerous ways to follow and track our players, believe me when I say that Glen.

Our software we write, purchase and altar has safeguards stitched in it. Our programmers are experts with all forms of Stitching algorithms with applications called PTGui.  PTGui is panoramic image stitching software for Windows, macOS and Linux. Originally started as a Graphical User Interface for Panorama Tools (hence the name), PTGui has evolved into a full featured, industry leading photo stitching application.  Take roulette for example.  We can have a series of 35 dealer initiated spins and instantly while appearing legitimately, allowing the outcome to be our chosen result.

We can employ or relinquish these type of controls at will. Slots and table games of all types, anything we offer online. Some jurisdictions have no concerns about these practices, while others only audit or verify on certain days that a minimum amount of win is being disbursed to the players of a gross amount of revenue we receive. A practice known as a guaranteed percentage being given to the players.

We track IP addresses as well as players Wagering regularly. We can easily alter an outcome of any electronic game and by doing so the highest majority of the times it will be within jurisdictional law. However is it ethical, absolutely not.  But it is a business decision based upon the number of players as well as the frequency and type of wagers being placed.

Yes we have secure and very complex RNG computers. We are occasionally audited and we will always know when the audit will happen. At times only minutes prior, because we have to allow access to the jurisdictional officials that are plugging into our system to verify the RNG method that we are using. It is virtually only a flip of a switch to go from one type of software to another.

Just because there is a live dealer, does not in any way dictate a pure random outcome of any game. Likewise any outcome of any game without dealers from electronic table games to slots................."

Quote from: alrelax on June 04, 2023, 04:10:23 AMWe can have a series of 35 dealer initiated spins and instantly while appearing legitimately, allowing the outcome to be our chosen result.

It's nothing but cheating:

I knew it. Way back in 1995 I was part of the development software beta testers for the Macromedia online plugin Shockwave. Later this software plugin became Flash. This was the platform for true "write once, debug everywhere," that JAVA was supposed to be. You see the software displays 24 frames per second and makes stitching so seamless that nobody can see the switch.

I caught that online casino out of Canada that is run from an Indian reservation switching outcomes. I stopped betting online as soon as I noticed that I was being targeted. It's all a form of legalized theft.

I started out there with $40 and rose to $1,400 in three days. All I could get deposited was the $40. They started targeting me within a week. It take3s a while to find the betting style and getting programmers to target you. Now days it's all AI. The computers can hit on you as soon as they push the button. The software knows how to take. The need for programmers is all done away with now days.

Thx alrelax for your prompt reply.

I agree with your opinion Gizmotron.

This is very concerning (though not surprising). I've always been a little paranoid to gamble online though I know a few people that have been successful.

"...Originally started as a Graphical User Interface for Panorama Tools (hence the name), PTGui has evolved into a full featured, industry leading photo stitching application.  Take roulette for example.  We can have a series of 35 dealer initiated spins and instantly while appearing legitimately, allowing the outcome to be our chosen result. ..."


Strong words from an insider. The evidence is difficult to refute.

I avoid slot machines and avoid most e machines. Many of my states 120+ casinos only allow one to play their freeplay on slots or emachines(such as eCraps by Interblock or eRoulette by Evolution).

A friend was playing the eCraps(by interblock). It is the one with the slender cylindrical glass capsule with two small dice where one is not playing with other players. Anyway, he built a profit of +$70,000 in approx 3months--then it was wiped away (+additional  -12K) in approx 2mo,....etc.
I had warned him it was simply a slot machine with a craps cabinet. He disagreed as it was his opinion they had no method to control the dice.  He was mostly wagering a steep Marty for 3 steps. Also, one can get a roll approx every 8-10seconds. A very dangerous combination.



Continued Success,

Gizmotron you are exactly correct.  Not one doubt!

That email was from an Offshore Casino coupled with numerous, actual online casino concerns. It was in an Asian country. The email was a small part of a much greater and in-depth series of conversations I had with the officials at the property and business end. 

The so-called 'programmers' are more switch flippers and observers, but that is what they call them.

Yes it is theft not one doubt, but then again so is three card Monty on the streets of New York City. I am not defending them, I know 100% the highest majority of online casinos cheat, some with great blatant 'flipping the switch' after the bet is placed type of tactics, to a very mild, 'all we did was take away' the highest wagering player's edge and allow the smallest wagering players to win.

I was given this in detail explanation of how the applications are applied by a casino B&M and online official, that had been part of it for about 10 years. This was back around 2018.

What was unique I feel was this was a B & M casino, large without any doubt and professionally appearing in all aspects. Governmental gaming license, etc. They also had numerous leased floor spaces with gaming tables brought in and controlled by the leased operators. Those leased spaces were individually owned concerns but under the licensed authority of the casino.  Those spaces were allowed to set up online casinos as well as using their own floor spaced tables with their live dealers for in person open to the public gaming.

The casino would assist the leased operator with the logistical aspect of the technology for a percentage commission of the revenue realized by their leased space partners. In gist, that is one aspect to a very crooked world of the online gaming business.

FYI.  The leased spaced pricing was based upon actual space, not revenue collected.  The online end of it would be a set fee plus a percentage of the collected revenues realized. 

I have never supported online gaming and never will and the very large supporting stone to that was just a few months ago. This is when I removed the online banners of supposedly a reputable online casino concern on this very forum.

What happened was the online casinos refusal to pay me commissions on five members that signed up and deposited funds along with gambling on their site through my forum. In plain words, they cheated me and if they cheated me for that, I can only imagine what they do to their gambling patrons! How do I know they cheated me? Because those five sign ups were members from my forum that signed up, deposited and played all under my control and direction with my funds. They outright told me, that not one of those five were linked to my forum. All false! Case closed. They lie and cheat and if they did that to me, they certainly do it to their players.

Why did I have five people signed up through my forum? Because a member of this forum complained to me that he won about $800.00 within a week after signing up and was refused to withdraw his win money. I'm not going to get into the details, but the win was clear, it was deposited into his account and I don't believe there was any cheating whatsoever from the documents that I seen. A week after his attempt to withdraw it, the withdrawal was challenged and refused. They came back with a 60 day time frame hold and additional play necessary for the member to pass their, "new player checklist and the quick win be deemed as legitimate".

Again case closed. Online Casinos cheat, lie and steal from countless patrons.

If you're looking to enjoy online gaming with the added assurance of transparency and fairness, it's essential to choose platforms with strong reputations and positive user reviews. However, it's also wise to be aware that some players have shared concerns about fairness in online games.

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Okay enough!  Seriously, why do people join forums and fail to follow the rules and simple regulations? 

We do not allow posting links to online gaming and other subscription type of things.  PERIOD.  NONE.  ZERO, ZILCH, NADDA, NOT ONE! 

May I suggest to this new forum member to go to a gaming forum such as The Wizard of Vegas forum.  I am certain he will be welcomed with open arms and be allowed to post all of his gaming links! 

Have a great day and life new member!

Alrelax
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