This is a book which was originally published in 1987 so it's quite dated in some respects, but it's good on probability (Bayes' theorem in particular) and makes for an interesting read overall. There's even a short chapter on roulette (the authors say DON'T play it. :)) )
Download Link (http://www.sendspace.com/file/nperba)
Quote from: Bayes on January 24, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
There's even a short chapter on roulette (the author's say DON'T play it. :)) )
Download Link (http://www.sendspace.com/file/nperba)
cheers Bayes :thumbsup:
I have a lot of the old smartsig magazines and I can never remember a roulette system published ???
I will wade through them again and see if there is anything of interest that I can find.
Is it a book about math (probability) or roulette ?
Mainly sports betting, but there is something on casino games (poker, roulette). A couple of chapters on probability.
Part 1 Intro and The Lessons of History 5.08
Part 2 Calculating the Odds, first part 5.09
Part 3 Calculating the Odds, second part 5.10
Part 4 A Risky Business, first part 5.11
Part 5 A Risky Business, second part 5.12
Part 6 Professional Backers, first part 6.01
Part 7 Professional Backers, second part 6.02
Part 8 A Day at the Races, first part 6.04
Part 9 A Day at the Races, second part 6.05
Part 10 Backing the Winner, first part 6.06
Part 11 Backing the Winner, second part 6.07
Part 12 Backing the Winner, third part 6.08
Part 13 Where the Computer Fits In 6.09
Part 14 Football Forecasting, first part 6.10
Part 15 Football Forecasting, second part 6.11
Part 16 Football Forecasting, third part 6.12
Part 17 Football Forecasting, fourth part 7.01
Part 18 Using Football Ratings 7.02
Part 19 Monte Carlo or Bust 7.04
Part 20 The Poker-faced Machine, first part 7.05
Part 21 The Poker-faced Machine, second part 7.06
Part 22 The Art of Being Lucky 7.07
Thanks, mate. :thumbsup:
I particularly like their quote: "...probability is a slippery subject, full of paradoxes and pitfalls."
And don't we know it!!
Here's another quote I like (with respect to roulette systems) -
"The fact that it is mathematically impossible to win consistently to a
level stake has led some roulette enthusiasts to invent betting
systems designed to overcome the house advantage. The amount of
hard work and ingenuity expended on such systems invites
comparison with the herculean, and equally ill-founded, efforts of
ancient alchemists in their quest for the philosopher's stone."
Sound familiar? :P
It's just my opinion, but I would rather play roulette any day of the week over betting horses or other types of sports betting. There is a guaranteed 35/1 payout on every spin of the wheel. 2.7% is not really the enemy the way I look at it. Some of these 'bookies benefit' handicaps have over rounds of 40%. Now that's what I call an edge! :nod:
Bally, I agree. I gave sports betting a good shot a few years ago, but never got anywhere with it; lost a little, won a little, and ended up at around even after a lot of hard work. Maybe it's something to do with the faster turnover in roulette, plus there's a kind of purity in it which I like. Sports betting is messy and there are just too many variables for my liking.
Quote from: Bayes on January 25, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
Bally, I agree. I gave sports betting a good shot a few years ago, but never got anywhere with it; lost a little, won a little, and ended up at around even after a lot of hard work. Maybe it's something to do with the faster turnover in roulette, plus there's a kind of purity in it which I like. Sports betting is messy and there are just too many variables for my liking.
In roulette it is billions of variable, the art is to be lucky to find the one which not takes from you, rather the opposite.
Hmmmmm!
I've heard some good things about this book.... but alas! - the sendspace link given is dead .... any chance of a re-up when you get the opportunity?
Cheers!
Maybe someone can do us all a favor here?
The book is available as a free download-
http://horseraceratings.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/the-punters-revenge-free-online/
You need to join this Yahoo group and the book is in the "Files" folder:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hoof-ratings/info
I would do it myself but I can't seem to open a Yahoo account. I've tried several times but you're required to give a mobile phone no, then they send you a validation code in a text. Problem is, I never seem to get the code, maybe I have the wrong kind of phone or something. >:(
So if anyone has a Yahoo account or can open one more easily than I can, the book is available. But please upload it here!
Thanks in advance to some kind person. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Schoolman on September 16, 2014, 06:43:45 PMYou need to join this Yahoo group and the book is in the "Files" folder:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hoof-ratings/info
Maybe it's a task for someone with an active yahoo account... Yahoo was big in the "Web 1.0" era, so chances are there's some fellow member still roaming there (i.e. for yahoo mail).
Uploaded here (7Mb):
http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/32648061/file.html
Thank you very much muggins! :rose:
Thank you very much muggins!
Cheers
What happened to the poster Bayes? Anyone? I see he started this thread.
When I click on his name it doesn't pull up any contact info like when you pull up other names.
Thanx
Quote from: Maxwell on September 17, 2014, 09:23:53 AM
What happened to the poster Bayes? Anyone? I see he started this thread.
When I click on his name it doesn't pull up any contact info like when you pull up other names.
Thanx
He is no longer a member of this forum for certain reasons.
He was a member of the betforum, but it does not exist as the founder Stef let every one down, he had personal issues and gave up the betforum.
I ask Bayes to open up new forum, but he did not reply, so i hope all is well with him.
I can email him again and see if we can open up a new gambling forum.
Quote from: Sputnik on September 17, 2014, 10:33:49 AMI can email him again and see if we can open up a new gambling forum.
Oh no, not another forum more. To register again. All to talk low of the previous forum. To create sects and arouse old quarrels. Other forum members are traitors. Those who remain in the other forum they are enemies. The administrator of the old forum is the devil that sells systems or because advocates computers, or calls for donations, or because because ... whatever then. If you are not with the new is against all. Not again. Give us a time of truce.
Can not we just enjoy the current moment where there is an air of harmony and integration? Among the current forums.
Reading the posts is practically given that Slacker is Bayes. So he has been with us for some time. Make sure first and do not stir the pot just to do it. What matters is not the usernames but the people. Better to leave this small community quiet at near Christmas time. Try next year if things are ruined by then. Right now is not the time.
Greetings.
QuoteReading the posts is practically given that Slacker is Bayes.
I feel the same. Atleast someone alike. I consider Bayes to be one of the most reasonable person on any forum. He was like a simplified encyclopedia on gambling related mathematics.
Quote from: Albalaha on September 18, 2014, 03:59:23 AMI feel the same. Atleast someone alike. I consider Bayes to be one of the most reasonable person on any forum. He was like a simplified encyclopedia on gambling related mathematics.
There are quite a few matches. Just look at the posts:
http://betselection.cc/profile/?area=showposts;u=796
This same thread was opened by Bayes. Slacker comes to re-open Bayes topics, writes just like Bayes . He is a mathematician, same as Bayes and opens a new section to give continuation to the topics originally to be published in Bayes blog.
Quote from: Slacker on September 14, 2014, 12:43:16 PMyou might remember that I had started a blog on various topics in probability.
I bet this is an open secret among seasoned members. Always the ordinary citizen is the last to know. Well, I am happy as it seems the same person. I also think he is a very good publisher and we will learn from his simplified teachings. It is a gift that of simplify. Among the best we can get from a mathematical member.
You might -- just might -- see a sudden change of name occur.
Don't be too surprised if it happens!
I would like Bayes to come as Bayes again with the same avatar of Bayes.
Bayes is boring. Slacker is much better!
And while we're at it, Rolex-Watch should be Mickey-Mouse-Watch. [smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley]
We recognize him as Bayes, for long long time. Since vlsroulette days. Truth may look bitter or boring but is still better than false assumptions.