Quote from: Macau on March 07, 2013, 08:12:14 PM
oke i will give you all something


I have a good friend who might be very lucky. but I saw he was a genius. and now I became his student.
He turned $ 1,000 become $ 250,000 in one year. He had stopped playing baccarat now and enjoy life with financial freedom.


He had hundreds of strategies and choosing random to be played in one day with a very small profit targets. He saw gambling such a heated iron. if you're too a long time at the gambling table then iron will melt and you will lose.


Yes, the hit n run strategy does work well if you have hundreds of strategy, or what you call the system, and choose random for a day and you'll see impressive results.
Do not forget to put main target such $ 100,000 or whatever you want as long as you can achieve. And then STOP!


Hit and Run will still work perfectly if you never come back.
now I'm at 70% of the main target
WISH ME LUCK! SEE YOU ON THE TOP!

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I questioned the Macau on what he had give us and Vic says he gave us system randomization.

Remember--I have not been up the mountain but I feel there is something to this.  It fits in with HAR.

Let's assume Ralph is right and BV uses quantum physics for their RNG.  Let's further assume they are fair and do not cheat.

While running the ExcelBot, I see a flow of numbers that seem tailor made for the system.  Then I get a run that is just the opposite.  If every number is the same as every other number, why does this phenomena happen?  I get a new set of 10 numbers and it continues.  This can go on for four or five hours.  Numbers that are all wrong or right.  Each selected the same and in batches of ten.

I find it very curious.

So--if a person could sit down at the appropriate time and get the "good" numbers, they would say HAR has worked.  If they are lucky enough to do that with regularity, then for them HAR does work.

So what Macau is say to me is this:  Switching systems--often and among many--keeps you on the good trot of numbers.  Using the same system over and  over will find the bad numbers.

Much more thought needed.

Comments welcome.

Sam

I find the phenomenon interesting too.


Indeed: playing martingale continuously the whole month on the same roulette every single day gives you 100% guarantee to be there betting when Martingale's run from hell appears.


Playing martingale among many methods, using it -perhaps- one or two times in the month, puts you in a position of at least having a shot at skipipng them. Guarantees? none; but it brings into "the realm of the possible" to out-sit Martingale's shitty runs, while betting it continuously guarantees with 100% certainty you will hit the run from hell, keeping it in the realm of the impossible.


In this game, everything that's possible to happen will happen. This means some players will in fact out-sit spins with the run from hell with this technique, and they'll think they got the grail . You can't tell a winner what he just cashed-in from the casino this year isn't real.


Reminds me of the "first spins from the wheel" thinking.


Which states if you play only the first spins when they open a wheel, randomly, you will have a better chance of success. Because all long runs from hell happen in the middle or well-entered in the game 


You can check this at wiesbaden's online archive. Like any other player belief, mathematically, we know how's it labelled like  .

Sam!


If you make a square which is 6x6 divided, 36 smaller squares, and trough a handfull beans without aiming more than  general at the square,you will find the law of third. Every strange things we see at the table, we find in all random situations. Random is by definition not predictable. Everything can happen. We see often funny things, when we ride against or with it, and ignore it otherwise.


I we decide to flatbet red, and red comes 10 times in a row, we will be happy, IF NOT we recent were losing trying to parlay in many steps, and change the method to flat.


All streams are good or bad, depending on our bettings. We spread the risks somewhat using different methods. It may even out some loss/win. We do not know the landing next spin, but we can assume, red will not fall forever.


Handle the variance on NOZ so it works for us, we can to some extend do, the price for smaller losses is the opportunity to larger wins decrease. 

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 08, 2013, 04:38:52 AM
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So what Macau is say to me is this:  Switching systems--often and among many--keeps you on the good trot of numbers.  Using the same system over and  over will find the bad numbers.

The thing is to get away from the 'system' mentality and think more in terms of 'strategy'.

A strategy can incorporate many different systems and concepts. This is where I think the sum can be greater than the parts.

Experience has shown me that there is a good run happening somewhere with enough consistency to make a profit. Experience has also shown me that you will lose your a** if you can't adapt quickly enough with the flow. This kind of player intelligence has to be learned at the tables in my opinion. You learn quicker from real losses.

What I see a lot in the casino is the player rushing up to the table and start playing his favourite numbers straight away with no thoughts of watching for a few spins to get an idea of what's going on. I learned my lesson about this several years ago.

A friend had shared a bit of software with me which he said was great on Baccarat. It involved using a negative 1-2-3 step progression. It worked great for a week and I thought it was going to make me a lot of money.

Disaster struck in the form of the 'terrible two's'.

BB
PP
BB
PP
BB
PP
BB etc....

This thing seemed like it could handle everything that was thrown at it until it ran into the terrible two's. I did not even notice it until I started looking at why my bankroll went up in smoke. I thought how could a 4k system be so flawed in one respect. But this is what happens with systems. A clever strategy could have worked around this and limited the damage to a degree. The terrible two's ran throughout the whole shoe. It may have won somebody else a fortune.

cheers

Gents one thing I don't understand. Why that HAR should work, or better to say reduce the variance as it is actually what does to you who are allegedly wining with it?

You are entering at random points of random distribution. Although obviously those "dives" onto random distribution are short and you are just shortly exposing different values of odds, betting to it (IMO of changing the systems all the time, as Macau says), you expect not to be affected by one of randoms "features" as that variance I mentioned is.

So somehow those sudden changing of different odds should avoid variance.. --that is what all of you are saying actually

So you face random vs random and do not expect to be influenced with all characteristics of random.. You actually eliminate characterstic which is most unpleasant to you as a bettor.

Mathematically that is not possible in the longterm, but you somehow still succeed..

Bayes simulated some time ago JL-s HAR style, randomly entering at distribution, and results were in the end the same as continuous betting I am afraid..

So you say hit and run. But how and why do you always somehow succeed more times first to hit and then run, so brazenly deceiving our beloved variance?

Best

Drazen

I think it can go either way.

I prefer to have a single good system than many bad. Shuffling many bad systems I do not think that makes a difference. That is my personal opinion. Everyone does as he likes with his game.

So--if a person could sit down at the appropriate time and get the "good" numbers, they would say HAR has worked.

"if" is the operative word in that sentence.  Believe it or not, I'm working on a way to determine when a bad trot is coming.  Probably not possible, but why let that little fact get in the way?

Marshall and Walter

Yes, I agree!  That's the problem.  I can see the problem!!

Sam

Do you know why all systems or strategies in all forums led to the failure?
Because all systems has received negative opinion from the people.


My teacher said that the positive and negative energy on something is very significant effect on the universe.
If you have ever learned about Quantum Mechanics you will know that the world is ruled by probability. In the QM there is the term "observer effect". In the game of roulette, where the ball will land, black or red, simply depend on the subconscious observers in the world. The subconscious is the fear/believe, general knowledge, etc in every head people.


Yes, Pattern Breaker worked very well for JL. And failing or unstable after JL post in the forums. This also happens with the stock market indicators that in the beginning is very profitable for the inventor, but failed or unstable after so many people exploit the indicator or the triggers.


Then why random strategy very effective, at least for me? because the random strategy is very difficult to get negative energy.
I think this forum should go to another level of understanding.


Sorry english is not my primary language

When ever you play, you use a kind of guessing, via a method or any other way. The simple truth is you win if you pick the fallen number.


It is some bearing in changing methods, if you play and have to use every spin (in some casinos you have to) and you bet for series, it may not be successfull to expect the same pattern forever. We can as usual never be sure if the change will help or not.


The tendency a method will fail, can make us exaggerating the use of HAR and changing methods.


I have done trials, stopping play on plus, still play with zero or low stake, just to see if the bad streak comes, and the compare it to the next days play. There is not in my trails any sign of the break helps very much. I may do due to I am tired   and more exposed to misstakes or risks taking as time goes.

Quote from: Macau on March 09, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
Do you know why all systems or strategies in all forums led to the failure?
Because all systems has received negative opinion from the people.

What about positive energy everyone himslef puts in system while playing with it? Positive energy which bettor focus on the system while betting, can't overcome anyones bad energy of opinion for it 

So lets all start thinking we won't lose money playing systems longterm, it may bring us what we want 

Best

Drazen

Gentlemen

I know two things.  I don't suspect, I don't have a theory--I know!

1.  There will be a time when the BV RNG produces numbers that cause the L v F to win.
2   There will be a time when the BV RNG produces numbers that cause the L v F to lose.

If I wanted to take the time, I could graph this.

For a time, I am going to seek a logical way to determine if the trot I'm seeing is #1 or #2.  And, no, you can't look at the first 100 spins and tell from there.  Ralph and others will tell you there are wild swings.

More if I learn anything worth reporting.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on March 09, 2013, 09:53:47 PM
Gentlemen

I know two things.  I don't suspect, I don't have a theory--I know!

1.  There will be a time when the BV RNG produces numbers that cause the L v F to win.
2   There will be a time when the BV RNG produces numbers that cause the L v F to lose.

If I wanted to take the time, I could graph this.

For a time, I am going to seek a logical way to determine if the trot I'm seeing is #1 or #2.  And, no, you can't look at the first 100 spins and tell from there.  Ralph and others will tell you there are wild swings.

More if I learn anything worth reporting.

Sam

An early RFH-varning would be nice! Sometimes it get to me.   I have even checked the numbers which is to come, and it is sometimes just right. If we can  avoid just some it helps a lot. 


I know we are able to see more than there is, but still it is better to stop even if you guess is not accurate, than try to predict the opposite. A good method stand most of the outcome, but some are fatal.

Quote from: Bally6354 on March 08, 2013, 03:37:58 PM

The thing is to get away from the 'system' mentality and think more in terms of 'strategy'.

A strategy can incorporate many different systems and concepts. This is where I think the sum can be greater than the parts.

Experience has shown me that there is a good run happening somewhere with enough consistency to make a profit. Experience has also shown me that you will lose your a** if you can't adapt quickly enough with the flow. This kind of player intelligence has to be learned at the tables in my opinion. You learn quicker from real losses.

What I see a lot in the casino is the player rushing up to the table and start playing his favourite numbers straight away with no thoughts of watching for a few spins to get an idea of what's going on. I learned my lesson about this several years ago.

A friend had shared a bit of software with me which he said was great on Baccarat. It involved using a negative 1-2-3 step progression. It worked great for a week and I thought it was going to make me a lot of money.

Disaster struck in the form of the 'terrible two's'.

BB
PP
BB
PP
BB
PP
BB etc....

This thing seemed like it could handle everything that was thrown at it until it ran into the terrible two's. I did not even notice it until I started looking at why my bankroll went up in smoke. I thought how could a 4k system be so flawed in one respect. But this is what happens with systems. A clever strategy could have worked around this and limited the damage to a degree. The terrible two's ran throughout the whole shoe. It may have won somebody else a fortune.

cheers

I like when you use the word strategy.
I have the same opinion that some one should note what is current happining, what is current present, then decide what and how to play and always take in caculation what a small change might be and adapt or follow the wheels current states.

Quote from: Sputnik on March 10, 2013, 12:24:42 PM

I like when you use the word strategy.
I have the same opinion that some one should note what is current happining, what is current present, then decide what and how to play and always take in caculation what a small change might be and adapt or follow the wheels current states.

Hello Sputnik

Well I definately find that works much better and it has the ability to throw up some nice consecutive win sequences in short spaces of time in my opinion. This is what I particularly like because more often than not, it allows me to hit the road without getting involved in a long drawn out game.

 
Sting like a bee and run like a rabbit