Quote from: Gizmotron on December 06, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
You will know it when you see it. The guesses will work. The win streak will start. Now some people see this as nothing more than luck. Call it anything you want. If you wait for it, it will eventually come to you. I would call that inevitable. I know that a win streak will begin. Not only do I know it but I also know that the casino can't prevent it.

Well said.  It is all discipline.  Not many are able to do what you suggest, but for those few who acquire this level of discipline will find risk mitigated and reward abundant.  Explanation can only be realized through experience.

wannawin, I don't think people are unintelligent. I think they are inexperienced. I doubt that many at this forum think that throwing away money is fun. They are looking for a secret to gambling winnings. I was no different. I spent years researching progressions and triggers.

Hi Giz,

I have a question!

Lets say Red AND Even are both streaking (lets say both are at a run of 5).
Would you play both,and risk diluting the win if one loses, wait for one to stop before continuing with the one that's left,play just one of them....or something else entirely?

Quote from: Wally Gator on December 28, 2012, 07:30:59 PM

Well said.  It is all discipline.  Not many are able to do what you suggest, but for those few who acquire this level of discipline will find risk mitigated and reward abundant.  Explanation can only be realized through experience.

There it is. That's it in a nutshell. Only those with actual playing experience can know if they have what it takes to do this. I know well that I'm a terrible communicator. I wanted to share this. When I taught the ten students I never found out how well any of them did. I do know where the steep learning curve produced difficulties. Nathan Detroit got to me and suggested that I try a simpler approach. That's what this thread is.

I wish I could transfer experience.

Quote from: Blood Angel on December 28, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
Lets say Red AND Even are both streaking (lets say both are at a run of 5).
Would you play both,and risk diluting the win if one loses, wait for one to stop before continuing with the one that's left,play just one of them....or something else entirely?

I would play big on both for one bet. At the same time I would place good money on every even-red number on the inside. There should be nine inside.

 
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So what would you say is the attack window to catch does dominant events, two, three or even four bets ?
Lets assume flat betting, then what kind of staking plan would you pick, regression, parlay, guetting ?

And what kind of ending tail would you say is good, two, three loses ?

Quote from: Sputnik on February 24, 2013, 09:42:06 PM
So what would you say is the attack window to catch does dominant events, two, three or even four bets ?
Lets assume flat betting, then what kind of staking plan would you pick, regression, parlay, guetting ?

And what kind of ending tail would you say is good, two, three loses ?

First off I would not hold myself to a flat bet. When I'm searching, my bet level is at minimum. Once I see an opportunity I jump up to attack pricing. I then keep up that high pace as long as the trend or pattern holds up. You never know when a long streak is starting. To win big you must be hanging in there. Any loss is an indication that the conditions have changed. So I back off, UNLESS there's indication that a global effect indicates occasional losses in an otherwise very powerful stretch of positive opportunities.

It's just too bad that most of you think that what I just shared is gibberish. That's not my fault. If you don't know what the global effect indicates then please find out. Its here, right on this forum. It will make the process of communication and discussion far more interesting and informative.

 
Well i just wanted your opinion, that´s all.
Could later see that Bayes alredy ask ...
I would say one loss is an indication for a change and two loses is a change, that way you can catch does long strings of dominance like WLWWWWLWLWLWLWWWLWWLWLWLWWLWWWW ...

Cheers

Quote from: Sputnik on February 24, 2013, 10:07:24 PM

Well i just wanted your opinion, that´s all.
Could later see that Bayes alredy ask ...
I would say one loss is an indication for a change and two loses is a change, that way you can catch does long strings of dominance like WLWWWWLWLWLWLWWWLWWLWLWLWWLWWWW ...

Cheers

I agree. If the trend is dominance, then a few single losses are just part of the process. If I only half believe a change is coming I might go with a half priced attacking price. You don't know what's going to happen. Rules will lead you straight into trouble. You must learn how to play agile with respect to the effectiveness track. At least that's what I do. You must find a way to make this randomness stuff your own.

I use a checklist like a pilot does a preflight walk around.

1.) The roulette table marquee is wrong most of the time. It misses spins or reports them wrong many times during a session
A. So I keep my own spin results in my index card charts. It takes about ten to fifteen spins to get to see real trends that are currently occurring.
B. I also keep a wL list once I start placing trend following bets.

2.) My first 10 to 15 bets are table minimum bets on one of the even chance options of the table. I do this so I can see the trends in the double dozen bets.
A. I make virtual bets in my mind and put the results in the wL list even though not actually placing those bets. Those are trial double dozen bets.

3.) My playing experience tells me to act on what I'm seeing. After thousands of playing sessions its easy to tell what phase or condition the bets are flowing in.
A. It is important to not place bets during a deep slide downward.
B. I practice at home with my charting program before going to a casino. I want to remind myself to follow the checklist.

4.) I wait to attack the win streaks that are dominate in the wL list. You can make money during a soft dominating upturn in the win side of a wL list of bets.
A. It is easy to see a win streak in the wL list. That's when it is best to bet big.
B. The wL list tells you when to bet big and when to bet small.
C. Playing experience is what gives me playing patience. The good times will come if you can just stay close to even money and just wait for it to come.

5.) Never expect more than two big win streaks in a long session. Most of the time there is only one.
A. Make it count and get out if you are tired.

If you follow this simple plan, you should run at a better win rate of two to one than at a losing rate.

Once you have hundreds of effective practice sessions using the practice charting program you should have these skills down to the point as to effectively protect yourself at a casino. Your focus is on winning two bets for every lost bet. You must win two bets at least when betting big. If you can get a streak going at the big level then it will typically continue until the first loss. That first loss can be an indicator that a change has started. You must pull back in almost all situations on a loss. There is only one situation where you should not pull back and that is in a dominating global effect. If you have studied the information available to you at this forum then you should know what that all means. If you don't understand what I said then feel free to go find that information that is already here.