Are you looking at black & red combined, or individually? or both perhaps?
As I play a lot of baccarat, I need to generate more streams of ec data, so tend to do them individually & combined.


In your example, they go series, then a short burst of singles, then back to series. I guess you lose a couple of bets when it changes, so then it would depend on when you jump on the trend?

One thing I notice that has been pointed out before, is that when R/B chops, one of other EC's tends to streak.

Quote from: monaco on December 04, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
Are you looking at black & red combined, or individually? or both perhaps?
As I play a lot of baccarat, I need to generate more streams of ec data, so tend to do them individually & combined.

That's interesting. An example of multiple tracks would look interesting too.

Quote from: monaco on December 04, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
In your example, they go series, then a short burst of singles, then back to series. I guess you lose a couple of bets when it changes, so then it would depend on when you jump on the trend?

Yes.

Take the chart(print it), and run the list. I can run this list, about 10 spins from the last, combined with a quick glance of about 30 spins from the last for global effects, in about 15 seconds or less. What I do is to seek the best occurring trend. Then I get the bets down.

Quote from: Gizmotron on November 30, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
On every spin I check to see if a new characteristic is forming or that any existing ones are changing. So I scan the chart. I can see a characteristic in approximately one third of a second.

Look for sleepers in the dozens and columns.
Look for singles, then doubles, triples, and larger in the dozens and columns.
Look for global effects for all this.
Look for perfect and almost perfect patterns in the dozens and columns.
Look for a perfect or almost perfect dominance in the dozens and columns.
Look for dominance in all of the even chance bets.
Look for sequences of singles, doubles, and triples and above in the even chance bets.
Look for perfect patterns in the even chance bets.
Look for sleeping zeros and wide awake zeros.
Look for any active attack bet ending.
Evaluate the effectiveness of the current state.
Repeat this process after every spin and before every bet.

Now for some house cleaning of a different kind. The odds. Do the zeros sleep? The answer is no. Every time you place a bet you are exposed to them. But this also happens. Do the zeros appear to be asleep? The answer is yes. Can you make bet selection choices on the appearance of the zeros sleeping. If so then EC bets are currently working like 50/50 bets, even though mathematically they are actually not.

While the zeros sleep you can play two different types of balance. In one spin you can play a balanced bet with an EC selection. You could almost play a balanced game with two bets, with options, if you play two spins of double dozens. EC's are 50/50, Double Dozens, played twice to win both, are 45/55. But the options offered in the DD x2 bets might be worth that extra 5% advantage to at least one loser of the two.

If you lose the first bet you don't have to take the second bet that you might also lose.

If you win the first bet and lose the second bet you have half your losses.

You almost have an even chance of winning both bets. You can let the winnings of the first bet ride on the second bet.

This is my practice software.

software updated 12/09/12

Now that you have the chart and the check list what's next. This step is completely up to you. You need to get practice. You also need actual playing experience too. You must acquire experience winning and losing with real money. But before that you need to prove to yourself that you can take control of every kind of session that you might encounter.

One famously known gambling author suggest that after three losses you are out. That's fine if you live two miles from fifty casinos. But what if you must make a 150 mile round trip to the casino worth the trouble. What if your casino makes you bet at least a minimum bet for every spin. What if it's so crowded that if you give up your seat you will never get it back that trip. You need a method to wait for the big chances to come to you without getting killed off. I can sit and play even chance bets for hours without getting anywhere.

You can use a $5 minimum bet as a holding system. I look for the best looking even chance bet. Every once in a while those EC locations become the locations to kill. You will know it when you see it. The guesses will work. The win streak will start. Now some people see this as nothing more than luck. Call it anything you want. If you wait for it, it will eventually come to you. I would call that inevitable. I know that a win streak will begin. Not only do I know it but I also know that the casino can't prevent it.

Any questions?
Any questions on the software?

Thank you for posting the software - I think it goes a long way to illustrating the reasons behind some of the statements you make that can be hard to digest from words only.
Looking at the local(?) effect, whilst being able to see the global effect at the same time, as you do with the software, can be done very quickly as you say.


Analysing it & making winning bets from it is another story of course.
But the software does allow you to see all that is happening in the ec's & dozens at once.


Are you using progressions on the ec's similar to the ones on the dozens - eg. bet big, then pull some profit & parlay the rest?

I must apologise for fooling around with progressions. I only use them when acting irresponsible and falling on a crutch of impatience. I know I can dig my way out of a small hole. So every once in a while I'll attempt to blast out a small correction. It's stupid actually. It so often works to the positive. I might use a three step Marti once or twice in a session with full knowledge that it could really bite me.

Nice job on seeing the trends in the charts. I've been doing this for years. It's impossible for me to not see the opportunities. So I'll  try to relate what it is that I see.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 12, 2012, 04:36:51 PM
I can guarantee that you can have great trends or patterns to make choices with and you will have sessions that would have killed you. Like a string of straight down losses. You won't be able to avoid it. Now if you are prepared to deal with this when it happens then you can minimise your losses. Things will change. They always do. The effectiveness will move to one of the other two conditions. As far as a global effect for the effectiveness condition goes, you would be wise to consider session difficulty. Some sessions are so difficult that it takes forever to get a decently sized prize. With full knowledge that other sessions will allow you to kill the casino, why bother with the difficult ones.

Someday, asking questions in this thread will be of historical significance. Don't be someone that never bothered to get answers from me. I'm in a very telling mood. Some  day everyone will be able to give the answers.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. This is really valuable and valued.

If my assessment is correct people are unintelligent when playing. The betting strategy you propose requires a conscious effort. People who go to the casino just wanna have fun to get away from life, forget the world and unwind. In fact they pay for it.
You can paper the casino with your winning strategy manual and people still continue to bet some nonsense they enjoy. Please do not feel dismayed that casinos will close.
When someone proposes something revolutionary very long is happening until it is truly appreciated. After then it is often appreciated only by a few. It is safe to say that readers appreciate your generosity.