First to Biagle:  You do not understand the sheet and how it works.  On the Excel sheet I am betting to win or loose 72 nickles (.05).  That is my base bet.  If I win 72, nothing happens.  If lose 72, the bot goes up one unit to .10 per number or 72 x .10.  If I lose, up to 3 and so on.  When I win, it goes down one unit.  Spend a minute and watch my video and you'll see.

I have found the win/loss limit of 10/50 to be worthless.  It loses big time.

Then ADulay:  Yes, I'm sure there are many casinos that cheat.  I think I've found a few.  But the prevailing wind is that BV is fair.  I trust Ralph.  He may be one of only three I trust at all!!  But if he says BV is fair, that's good enough for me.  I don't think he's a shill for BV and I don't think he photo shops his screen shots.  He just wins.

I have run tests on some casinos where you just never lose in fun mode.  I don't care what you bet, you will win.  They are doing that and they can do just the opposite when you're playing real money.  Hear me now and believe me later--BV will not make you lose in fun mode, but if your system/method is bad you will lose.  This is another reason I think they are totally honest.  Why else would they just let the RNG produce fair spins in play mode?  It would be to their advantage to "suck you in".

Sam

Getting back to something positive................

Been running the L v F on the ExcelBot.  I accept Ralph's statement--something like play and real are the same at BV.  It went something like that.

How do you say something works?  A batter consistently hits 40%.  Misses 60%.  What team would love to have him?  Pay him millions?

Same with this bot/system.  Does it win every trot?  No!!  From time to time, it loses 100E.  For every 100 it loses, it wins about 400.

So why am I still in play money.  Well, my wife asks that daily--waving her checkbook around like a boomerang. 

I am keeping an exact record of what it going on.  Not just the bot, but what to do when BV crashes.  The bot NEVER crashes.

I suspect that when I hit a profit of 2,000 I/we will fork over the money and go for real.  Then we shall see if the play scenario and the real scenario match up.

Right now I am at around 1,300 profit play money.  I tried setting the thing to win 10 or lose 50 and that was a tragedy.  I lost 200 before I could turn around.  It needs a cushion (coussin gonflable!) of money to go down and come back.

More as it happens.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 18, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Getting back to something positive................

Been running the L v F on the ExcelBot.  I accept Ralph's  like play and real are the same at BV.  It went something like that.

How do you say something works?  A batter consistently hits 40%.  Misses 60%.  What team would love to have him?  Pay him millions?

Same with this bot/system.  Does it win every trot?  No!!  From time to time, it loses 100E.  For every 100 it loses, it wins about 400.

So why am I still in play money.  Well, my wife asks that delving her checkbook around like a boomerang. 

I am keeping an exact record of what it going on.  Not just the bot, but what to do when BV crashes.  The bot NEVER crashes.

I suspect that when I hit a profit of 2,000 I/we will fork over the money and go for real.  Then we shall see if the play scenario and the real scenario match up.

Right now I am at around 1,300 profit play money.  I tried setting the thing to win 10 or lose 50 and that was a tragedy.  I lost 200 before I could turn around.  It needs a cushion (cousin conferable!) of money to go down and come back.

More as it happens.

Sam

Sam!


If you want to win 10, you must risk may be 1000, the risk of that is lower than try to risk 10 to win the same.


I have had losses, the worse 100000 units, but still I am since years on plus. Do not be afraid of your banroll. The time is to before make a risk budget, after that RISK IT if you want to win.


Take your time, a loss now, you must not recover now, it can be done "In the long run" (a few days).


Do not recjet a method because you lost once, and do not think a method is good by winning a few times.  Try to find methods which can stand a drawdown and have recovery potential.   We win using a good method and luck help us by.

Thank you, Ralph!

Something similar was my replay on the other forum.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 18, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
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I am keeping an exact record of what it going on.  Not just the bot, but what to do when BV crashes.  The bot NEVER crashes.



Sam

But what do you do when BV crashes. Whenever I run Ralphs bot any length of time BV crashes at some point (usually, of course, on a minus)


Trebor

Trebor

I put in the exact amounts that are on the screen beneath the BV window.  I write them down and go from there.  You cannot put in amounts lost/won, so I keep track of that and adjust accordingly.

Let's say I was down 25 E and BV shut me down.  I am betting .05 at level 4.  My bankroll is 500 E.

My new bankroll is 475 and my win goal is 25 + whatever it would have been.  Say I wanted to win 50.  Now I want 75.  I begin at level 4 just as it left off.

The only thing you can't control is where you are on the Excel sheet.  If you're down, you just have to calculate it in.  If I'm up, I just forget it.

Hard to explain....

Sam

http://youtu.be/1d7RQf8qyzM

Fighting the sin of hubris as I type........

The ExcelBot run over 100 Euro profit today in about six to seven hours.  Got cut off but was always up when it happened.

Very small draw down--less than $10.  As I told Nick, it was a day to make you wish you'd bet dollars!!

Sam

A 100 Euro win with a -54 draw down.  That's 54 nickels or 2.7 Euro.

Where's the beef?

Sam

On the Bull

Well, I swore to tell the truth...........

Dangit, I lost one!!  Set it at 200 just like I said above and it cleaned my clock while I slept.  Bankroll still OK, but this is very heart wrenching!!  ("But, hey!", Groucho said.  "That's better than heart screw-drivering.")

So, as I always say, we'll see.......

Sam

Today was a good day.  I have gained most of the 200 I lost back into the bankroll.  I will not report again until I come close to 700 Euro.  Or go just over it.